Five talking points from Penrith Panthers vs Canterbury Bulldogs NRL elimination final

By Scott Pryde / Expert

The Penrith Panthers, led by a fantastic Matt Moylan and Josh Mansour combination put in a cracking second half performance to run away with their NRL elimination final against the Canterbury Bulldogs on Sunday, winning by 16 points.

The Panthers will now move on to the semi-finals next weekend, but away from home as they take on the Canberra Raiders in what could be a very high-scoring match.

The Bulldogs meanwhile, can begin their preparations for next season after being blown off the park during the second 40.

Despite leading at halftime, they couldn’t put it together as the Penrith attack rose to the fore and dominated the contest.

Here are The Roar‘s talking points from the match.

Are the Panthers genuine contenders?
Absolutely! Of course, any team that gets to this point are only three, or in some cases two fantastic games away from winning the competition, but the young Panthers side have a bit of a special feel about them.

Unlike some other sides, their window of opportunity is quite a long one – and the Sharks spring to mind here but the Panthers won’t be in that boat – they could well be favourites to take out the competition for a number of seasons.

But don’t rule them out this season just yet.

With attacking weapons all over the park, led by Matt Moylan (and more on this shortly), along with a young halves combination in Bryce Cartwright and Nathan Cleary that is on fire they have a lot of points in them.

Peter Wallace has added consistent service out of dummy half, and their forwards are dynamic while Josh Mansour and Dallin Watene-Zelezniak add plenty from the wings, not to mention the versatile Tyrone Peachey.

If their forward pack and defence holds up, and they play three games back to back that are among their best of the season, then there is no reason they couldn’t win the comp from sixth no matter how much the odds are stacked against them.

Sure, they aren’t my tip for the win – they simply don’t have the experience or ability to wrestle and niggle with the best teams – but wouldn’t it be fascinating and refreshing to see them get the job done.

Next week’s second semi-final is going to be a cracker
We have an incredible match set up for next week when two of the most attacking sides in the competition face off with the Panthers travelling to Canberra.

While this, in many ways will rely on the fitness of Canberra guns Josh Hodgson and Blake Austin it is all set to be an absolutely mouth-watering contest.

Through the ad-lib styles of both teams, unique last tackle options for the Panthers and the explosive right side combination of Joseph Leilua and Jordan Rapana for the Raiders, there will be plenty of points come Saturday night.

The Bulldogs need change
The Bulldogs have been stuck in a bit of a rut for two seasons now, and it’s one they are struggling to break. After making the grand final in 2014, it was a disappointing second round exit last year after finishing the regular season fifth, and a first round exit this year after finishing seventh.

Apart from their dramatic fall away at the back end of the season after looking like they were going to be challenging for a position in the top four, their form is down and they are a side that needs change.

It would see it is more of a structure issue than anything else. Des Hasler is still a good coach, but fans will start losing patience with him if they have another season of ‘good, but not quite good enough.’

What it almost seems like for Canterbury is that they are still playing in 2014 mode, where their forwards dominanted the park game in and game out, and their halves were good enough to get the job done.

While injuries didn’t help their cause yesterday, their team needs change. Their attack seems stale and simply not working, while the forward pack is not the dominant force it once was.

I’m not going to sit here and say I have the answers, but someone needs to come up with them, and soon. For the Bulldogs, it won’t be good enough to simply make up the top eight numbers again.

Did Josh Morris score, and would it have mattered?
In the second half, with the Bulldogs badly needing a try, Josh Morris appeared to cross in the left hand corner through some heavy defence from the Panthers.

The referees, without a second thought allowed play to continue on ruling Morris hadn’t scored. The Bulldogs wouldn’t score for the rest of the set, or until the 78th minute when Sam Perrett crashed over actually.

There could be a case made for both sides as to whether Morris actually scored, but he did appear to roll over and plant the ball on the line. Whether momentum had stopped and it could be called a double movement is another issue, and it probably would have gone to the bunker as a ‘no try’ ruling if they had of chosen to send it there.

While it might have been a try, and the Bulldogs fans have a right to question it the fact of the matter is, they were struggling badly, and with injuries crippling them it wasn’t going to matter.

The Panthers were far too strong for them, and they ran away with the match for the majority of the second half, never looking back or truly letting the Bulldogs back into the contest.

How good is Matt Moylan?
Wow! That would be how you could sum up the Panthers fullback in one word or less during the match against the Bulldogs.

He was undoubtedly the man of the match and had an incredible combination with powerful winger Josh Mansour. For the Panthers to win the competition, whether that be this year, or next year then Moylan must be the man to step up and perform on a consistent basis.

He has all the skills at both ends of the park and has proven that on multiple occasions – the Origin fullback will need to stay consistent to keep his place in that arena, but there is no doubting his importance to the Panthers.

Well Roarers, those are our talking points from the second semi-final. What did you make of the game? What did I miss? Let us know below!

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The Crowd Says:

2016-09-12T20:48:13+00:00

Birdy

Guest


? What was on second, Who was on first Good old Abbott and Costello.

2016-09-12T14:43:58+00:00

Kilgore Trout

Guest


Panthers for the title ? I am not convinced this brilliant young side can put in another three weeks like this one but Leicester winning the EPL last season shows anything is possible . They played so well this week . I thought Griffin was kidding himself when he punted Segeyaro and Soward but it seems to have worked out really well . Really well ! Cleary has been incredible . One of the most complete entries to first grade I've ever seen . Not scared , all the skills and a strong defender . It looks like he has been doing 10 units of rugby league every year since he could kick a ball . Oh yeah ... he probably has . Go Panthers !

2016-09-12T14:08:41+00:00

CALM CHEEN

Guest


Nothing like a good ol cat fight on the roar ..

2016-09-12T10:02:25+00:00

HarryT

Guest


I Don't Know was in the bunker.

2016-09-12T08:30:29+00:00

Birdy

Guest


Who was on first

2016-09-12T07:19:46+00:00

Rossco

Guest


Wrong. Badger was the pocket referee. The touchie - who called it - was someone else.

2016-09-12T06:08:40+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


I'm not sure what the rule is in that situation. The way I saw it was that Morris' arm carrying the ball hit the ground. I even thought momentum had stopped. That normally completes the tackle but then he got picked up and flipped into the Panthers in goal. Would that count as a double movement? I've only seen it on the big screen at the game so may not have this right. It was probably a genuine 50/50, play the ball may have been an incorrect outcome but maybe a fair one. I thought the call on the Moylan play where he reached out for the sideline was a shocker. If the linesman can't look at that happening 50cm under his nose and realise he's being played then he doesn't understand the game well enough to continue in his role. If he did call it right and the ref over ruled well the refs not up to this standard.

2016-09-12T05:58:26+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


You and Charles should start a club. First requirement of entry: a single digit IQ. Of course your team is still going strong, you support half the comp.

2016-09-12T05:41:01+00:00

Birdy

Guest


The away team. TB. Besides when i lived in Wollongong we would travel to all grounds to cstch any game. How I'd love to still have that choice. The transport must be real dismal down there now.

2016-09-12T05:34:13+00:00

bigJ

Guest


Charlie just tell him to knock off the fluff from his cappucino, that gets him everytime. Charlie \Barry, both your teams season is at a end and mine are still going strong, so stop with the childhood bickering and enjoy whats left of the season. Although charlie, hats off to you its nice that i am not the only one that finds barry comments a little off sometimes.

2016-09-12T05:30:46+00:00

Pomoz

Roar Rookie


Too true. My mates and I used to go every year even when Parra and Penrith didn't make the semis. We used to love the trip into the SFS and a few beers afterwards and night on the town. The semis are a great atmosphere. Playing them at home grounds dilutes that somewhat and turns it into a game only for the locals.

2016-09-12T05:25:48+00:00

Jason Hosken

Roar Guru


'They copped a bit of punishment early' - and then some. I didn't think the young Panthers would rebound the way they did after the initial onslaught. Confidence will be sky high for week 2, especially with Canberra well and truly on the ropes - another cracker in store.

2016-09-12T05:21:12+00:00

Tom Watson

Roar Rookie


I was in that stand you're talking about mate and the atmosphere was hardly great. Quiet for the majority of the match aside from a good showing from the Panthers fans around us (was in the Bulldogs end). Not helped by a fair few Bulldogs fans leaving with 20+ minutes to go. Seems a real shame that the stadium was only half full for a finals mach. Thoroughly enjoyed the game itself though, as did my girlfriend who hadn't been to a match in years.

2016-09-12T05:20:27+00:00

Jason Hosken

Roar Guru


Amazing you can recall his pre-season tip, must've mistaken Mann for Munster.

2016-09-12T05:20:03+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


What are you talking about? I never played on the wing. I call you a sook so you turn around and call me....a sook. Come on Chucky, stretch that impressive vocab of yours and come up with something original. Of course you won't hear my reply, there's nothing to hear. I think you mean "read your response" You often struggle with the vagaries of the English language but that's good even by your standards. Typical Charles, throws a few inarticulate, misspelled, cheap shot insults and then heads for hills. Once a gronk always a gronk...

2016-09-12T05:15:45+00:00

sham

Guest


As a raiders fan I was cheering for the dogs as the Panthers are a more dangerous side. The dogs looked lethargic and a tad slow at times. Also they did not seem to support Kasiano that well - several time he looked to offload and there was no one there. Amazingly he still offloaded a few times despite this. To be fair the dogs did do well in the first half and they were cruelled by injuries but they need more speed and flair in their backline if they are to threaten the top sides.

2016-09-12T05:10:06+00:00

Charles NSW

Guest


Wah, Wah, Wah What a winger and the biggest sook ever Thought I would throw it back to you after all the whinging you have done against the Dragons Bye, bye I am glad to leave this site with people like you on here No, I will not even hear your reply with great joy

2016-09-12T05:09:43+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Did you really just write "McGregor can do better with this team" and then next line criticise me for a lack of facts? Brilliant! I almost lost that among the rest of your drivel.

2016-09-12T04:49:52+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


I don't think there's too many fans that go to a semi final when their team isn't playing.

2016-09-12T04:47:04+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Crawl back under your rock you big sook. Since when does the team that finished 11th get to bag the team that finished 7th? At the start of the year you predicted a top 4 finish for the dragons on the back of Kurt Mann's playmaking ability. Look at the scoreboard you gronk...

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