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Really stupid point. The big 4 didn't exist until when....2011 at the earliest when djoko finally stopped choking and grew a pair.

Nadal's win over Dimitrov was great, but Nadal really struggled after the first set. I thought the match was mostly played on Dimitrov's terms for 3.5 hours until Dimitrov threw away those two break points in the final set. The quality of tennis wasn't particularly high in sets 2, 3, and 4. Nadal only just got over Zverev too. Will Nadal be slightly fatigued after the semi-final? He's had a lot of hours on court after a long lay off. There's a lot of variables because both players have taken so much time off and have no form line. Nadal's form has been mostly poor the last two years. Federer will come out with all guns blazing serving well, playing first strike tennis, coming to the net. We'll see how good Nadal's passing shots are. Nadal will pepper the backhand and try to get Federer stuck in rallies where he'll get easily frustrated. Federer has to stay aggressive, but easier said then done when you can't finish off a point in 3 shots as Federer has been doing.

Federer will win in 3 strong sets. Rafa will say he hopes to be there next year and I imagine he will be. All signs point to Roger in this one, but even with the win, people will still be questioning who the greatest ever really is. On the plus side, $2.05 is juicy.

Rafael Nadal. Head and heart- both are saying.

So many here unfairly denounce safin and philliopouois etc. Safin beat a 29 yr old sampras for us open title(and 29 is not old or past it), when you consider pete won US open aged 31. Beating 27 yr old phillipouous on grass for your first grand slam was note remotely an easy victory or cheap slam. Safin beat fed(fed in his prime) in 5 sets in 2005 in the semi's then beat Hewit to win 2005 OZ open.

"People forget Federer has won eleven slams against players outside of the big four." Great point. Nadal has now played 21 finals and faced Djokovic and Federer in 16 of them. He didn't face Djokovic until Djokovic hit his peak too. If we're going to dismiss the level of competition and argue that you can only beat who is front of you, then Serena Williams is better than Federer because she has 23 to 17.

Getting ready for the clash of the titans. Rafa to win, but with a lot of huffing and puffing.

Who cares... Rafa is still going to beat the living stuffing out of Fed tonight. GO RAFA!

In most accounts they are two different swords. The sword in the stone was Clarent - it's purpose was to identify the rightful king. It was not a combat weapon. Excaliber (also known as Caliburn) was given to Arthur by the Lady of the Lake. Of course many tales twist and turn, in some Caliburn is the sword in the stone, in others it is a third sword. But it is most likely Caliburn is simply a translation of Excaliber (or vice versa). Other names include Calabrum, Callibourc, Chalabrun, Calabrun, Chalabrum, Calibore, Callibor, Caliborne, Calliborc, and Escaliborc.

Nadal to win and really push home his own claim as the greatest ever. People forget Federer has won eleven slams against players outside of the big four.

Rafa has the relentless energy of a Honey Badger. That said, Federer can win, but it would in a three setter. With Rafa in this current form it looks a minimum of four sets. If that's the case or even five sets, Federer needs short clean points,, get into long rallies with Rafa, is territory no top class player wants. And Federer knows that better than most of them. Past history is very often reliable, Rafa more likely to win than Federer.

In surviving accounts of Arthur, there are two originally separate legends about the sword's origin. The first is the "Sword in the Stone" legend, originally appearing in Robert de Boron's poem Merlin, in which Excalibur can only be drawn from the stone by Arthur, the rightful king. The second comes from the later Post-Vulgate Suite du Merlin, which was taken up by Sir Thomas Malory. Here, Arthur receives Excalibur from the Lady of the Lake after breaking his first sword, called Caliburn, in a fight with King Pellinore. The Lady of the Lake calls the sword "Excalibur, that is as to say as Cut-steel," and Arthur takes it from a hand rising out of the lake. Of course, I really don't give a #$@% which legend is even remotely true. Hope you've learned something today.

TWO AMAZING PEOPLE & PLAYERS .VERY TOUGH BUT I BELIEVE FED EX WILL BRING IT HOME?

Nobody pulled excalibur from anywhere damnit, it was distributed by a strange women lyin' in a pond. Read a book.

Rafa to win. Everyone is talking about how the 5 setter against Dimitrov will count against him. I don't see it. If anything it just shows how determined he is to win this one. The Nadal/Dimitrov match was an absolute cracker. Best tennis match I have watched in a long long while. I'd never seen Dimitrov play before and was very impressed by his performance. His one handed backhand reminds me very much of Warinka and Federer and he seems to have a very complete game that is enjoyable to watch. Really looking forward to tonight. The future of men's tennis looks assured despite the ageing of Federer with Murray, Nadal, Warinka, Jokavic and Dimitrov fighting it out for supremacy. Nick Kyrgios is just an immature boy in comparison with this lot. Women's tennis looks in a parlous state in comparison with only Serena worthy of champion status followed by daylight second.

I'm not so sure the whole, if it goes to five sets Rafa will win it argument works. He just spent a gruelling 5 hours on court remember - ok, he's done it before but he isn't the same player he was then - if anything, he is a number of years older. So, I think if Nadal is going to win it has to be in four sets or less. Then again, he has a massive edge over Federer in overall record, who is playing the best tennis I have seen him play in ages. His attacking game is so varied and it seems like every shot he attempts is dropping in. All I really want is an absolute classic with plenty of drama though. These guys are both champions of the sport, and this may well be the last time we get to see this in a grand slam final. Federer to win with absolutely no confidence in that prediction at all. I just think Nadal spent too long on court. Don't forget about our live blog! Tune in and drop a comment throughout.

I would love to see Roger win this, but the match up in styles suits Rafa better so I am going with him. Two outstanding champions, you can't begrudge either player winning it. I hope its a classic.

Just on the historical match up, the odds favor Raf. I would love to see Federer get up because he's a few years older and might not get another chance

Roger's kryptonite will waste him tonight. The pretender — of greatest — will be found wanting; the rightful heir to Pete's throne will pull Excalibur from Feds' broken heart. Rafa in a canter — might go to three sets, but Roger's fake groin injury might see him pull out early.