Eight quick takes from the AFL weekend: Round 5

By Josh / Expert

Don’t worry. I haven’t lost my marbles. I know Round 5 isn’t over yet. But if I don’t write up some quick takes on a Sunday night, what will I do with myself? And what will you read? So here we are.

How deep do West Coast’s scars run?
For the second time since they were embarrassed in the 2015 AFL grand final, West Coast entered their match against Hawthorn at the MCG as the favourites to take a win.

For the second time, they were humiliated, putting in a completely uncompetitive performance and ultimately going down by more than eight goals.

Much was made during the week of their poor record away from home, and no doubt that is a bit of a factor.

But it can’t explain this – getting slammed by a previously 0-4 team who had lost their last two matches by a combined 172 points.

The Hawks were always going to bounce back a little at some stage this season and are certainly better than what they’ve shown in the last two weeks.

Kudos to them for doing so in style, and to captain Jarryd Roughead for booting his 500th AFL goal. They’ve bought themselves at least a brief reprieve from the many questions being asked over them in recent weeks.

But now West Coast can expect to feel the heat. Their team is stuffed with underperforming players and mentally they haven’t had their heads in the game bar a few odd fixtures here and there since that fateful day at the end of 2015.

What is needed to reboot this club? I was hoping Sam Mitchell’s arrival might do it, but it hasn’t. Is Adam Simpson doing enough as coach? Is Shannon Hurn, as captain?

Some brutal honesty amongst teammates, like that which birthed a Geelong dynasty almost precisely ten years ago, is badly needed.

Forget fade-outs, North are losing games at the selection table
North Melbourne have lost three of their last four games by less than a goal, and all of them after surrendering leads of more than four goals at one stage or another.

It’s a serious problem and not one that is new – it happened to the club countless times in 2013, and their record in close matches under Brad Scott is poor to say the least.

That said, the Roos are sporting a much less experienced team these days than they have in the past, and it’s not surprising that they are playing inconsistent footy or wilting in clutch moments.

That’s part of being young and while it is a gut-wrenching experience to go through as a fan, the positive has to be that the team is consistently putting itself in winning positions against good opposition, even if they can’t finish it off.

What is not acceptable at the moment, however, is how North Melbourne is handicapping itself at the selection table every week by continuing to select players who are woefully out of form.

Andrew Swallow has been pushed out of the Roos’ midfield and made to play more time up forward – but he has kicked 1.7 since the start of 2016 and his disposal isn’t up to scratch.

Lindsay Thomas provides a bit of tackling pressure in the forward line but has kicked 2.6 for the year and on Saturday night gave away no less than three free kicks.

Braydon Preuss was left out of the team this week despite the Roos going up against the best opposition ruckman in the competition not currently nursing a hamstring injury. Laughable.

Despite being a young list North have this year had a stated focus on being competitive and that has meant playing experience over youth at times.

That’s fair enough, but at the moment it’s the experienced players letting the team down, not the youth.

If the Roos are serious about being competitive, it’s time to give some of the old stagers a spell in the VFL, and back the kids in with the confidence they deserve.

St Kilda need a superstar
My gut feel this week was that if St Kilda could get more goals than behinds they would be too good for the Cats, but, well, I was wrong.

The one thing that you can never write off happening with Geelong is a superstar performance from one or both of Joel Selwood and Patrick Dangerfield to inspire them over the line.

43 disposals, nine clearances, nine tackles, a goal and two goal assists – Joel Selwood had arguably the best game of his career or close to numbers-wise, and Dangerfield charmed in with a handy 31 touches and two goals.

That’s the kind of player St Kilda just don’t have at the moment. Sometimes Jack Steven can be superstar-lite, and of course Nick Riewoldt is still a game changer, but they must move past expecting him to win a match for them.

Is there a player on the list who can become that guy? Or do the Saints need to offer up every spare cent they’ve got to Nat Fyfe or Dustin Martin?

Either way, they’re going to keep finding themselves getting slammed by the superstars until they get one of their own.

Brad Crouch’s return is another big boost for the Crows
You could be forgiven for forgetting what an excellent young talent Brad Crouch is. Since the start of his career he’s been overshadowed by fellow mini-drafter Jaeger O’Meara, and in recent years, like Jaeger, has struggled with injury.

However, it’s fair to say he was one of the most impressive youngsters in the competition when he first made his debut, and if Saturday’s return game against Gold Coast is anything to go by, his talent has not deserted him yet.

33 touches and eight tackles – he was a little rusty at times but there’s no doubting he knows how to find the footy. He, brother Matt, and Rory Sloane make a damned scary centre bounce team for the Crows.

We already know that the widespread concerns about the supposed thinness of Adelaide’s midfield at the start of the season were much ado about nothing.

But with an elite talent like Crouch ready to come in and perhaps finally deliver on the promise he once showed, the Crows’ case for a third flag is only getting stronger.

Carlton can say goodbye to Friday nights
Port Adelaide and Carlton didn’t look like an exciting Friday night match up when it came up on the fixture and, surprise surprise, it wasn’t.

Sure, there are plenty of Carlton fans out there in the world and putting them on for a Friday night game is a straighforward way to try and draw numbers, but not even Blues fans wanted to watch that.

When it comes to scheduling primetime games the AFL ought to realise that it will get a better audience from engaged neutrals than it will by appealling only to a single large fanbase.

It’s an especially poor move when you consider that this is what was put up against the launch of the A-League finals – surely if there was a week to gift the Blues a Friday night game, this wasn’t it.

At the moment the Blues just aren’t competitive all that often and when they are it’s usually a low-scoring scrap, not good watching. They’re not worth including in the AFL’s showcase slot.

Hipwood’s heroics could make Schache no big loss
Despite being very positive about moving to Brisbane when he was first drafted there, Josh Schache is yet to sign a contract with the Lions beyond this year and that surely must be a growing concern.

However, watching the Lions take it right up to the reigning premiers on Saturday afternoon, one could’ve been forgiven for thinking Schache wouldn’t be too much missed.

Schache had only six touches and didn’t trouble the scoreboard, while his partner in crime Eric Hipwood was excellent early, kicking 3.2 for the day.

Of course, Schache is a developing tall in just his second year, and judging that type of player on a performance this early in his career is bound to leave one looking red-faced.

Still, Richmond are the club reportedly interested, and the Tigers have two first round picks this year.

The Lions will have a high pick of their own this year, plus Port Adelaide’s already traded in. Add in two from Richmond and the knowledge they’d still have Hipwood – I can think of worse positions to be in.

The Bulldogs need to get their bite back
The Western Bulldogs are a 4-1 side and sitting well inside the top eight, certainly in the mix for a top four spot, but it’d be a mistake to think they’re motoring along well.

Their last three results have been a shock loss to Fremantle in Perth, a seat-of-their-pants win over North Melbourne, and a stressful but ultimately comfortable victory over Brisbane on Saturday.

Those teams all fit in the average to bad range at the moment. Fremantle might be a little better but could easily be a 1-4 side if the dice had fallen a little differently, so maybe not.

They didn’t look great against Collingwood either and their win against Sydney is becoming less impressive the longer the Swans’ slump continues.

The short version is: they’re a bit out of sorts at the moment. To their credit, they’re still getting wins on the board.

As we learned last year, they certainly can find another level when the situation warrants it. With a trip to Canberra to play GWS looming on Friday night, they’ll want to do so very quickly.

Sydney belongs to the Giants
When the GWS Giants first entered the competition it was laughable to imagine them ever beating “big brother”.

They did it much quicker than anyone expected – ruining Lance Franklin’s first game for the Swans in 2014 in a dramatic affair that was suitably accompanied by a mid-game thunderstorm.

The Swans still held sway for a little while after that, and while they lost a final to the Giants last year, they survived longer in the competition and still had that over them.

Now they have nothing. The most recent winner at Spotless? The Giants. At ANZ? The Giants. At the SCG? We all saw it on Saturday night.

The Giants might not yet have the kind of off-field presence that can match the power they show on the field, and it’ll be a long time before they boast membership numbers or crowds that compare with those of their cross town rivals.

But with Sydney’s form waning and the Giants’ star rising, in on-field terms there can be no doubt – this city belongs to the orange and charcoal.

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The Crowd Says:

2017-04-25T08:57:25+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


No out of the ordinary celebrations...it is just another predictable victory.

2017-04-25T08:41:41+00:00

Macca

Guest


Dingo - care to explain how turning Tuohy into 7 players s a bad trade?

2017-04-25T08:34:43+00:00

I ate pies

Guest


I think I said that people in NSW don't give a rats about aussie rules (which they don't), that's about it. Hardly "constantly", and not the whole sporting landscape. Gyfox is right though, people in Sydney just don't attend sport. It's not their culture.

2017-04-25T07:58:56+00:00

Scott

Guest


Spot on gameofmarks. Redden should not be in the team, especially when Sheed and Priddis are there. He will be a handy player if Priddis gets injured but should only ever be called in on depth. I'm amazed how he has been getting games before Sheed. It makes no sense whatsoever. They can play the exact same role yet Sheed is a better player in almost every other category. Giles def should've played before Vardy as well. I don't like blaming coaches for teams playing bad but what the hell has been going on with the game plan at the G. That first half was disgusting. They tried to play keepyoff instead of trying to score. It was disgusting to watch. It reminded me of how Freo played last year, always looking back or to the side instead of facing forward. The other shocker was trying to play to cute in the wet vs Richmond. They could easily have won that game if they just went forward. I don't get what's going on. Simpson has been successful due to using the corridor and getting the ball inside 50 quick. They have definately gone in with a different game plan on both games at the G so far this year

2017-04-25T07:37:47+00:00

DingoGray

Guest


Sportsfan, Love reading your analysis of both Qld sides. For my Lions, they frustrate me to no end. The 2nd quarter was some of most pure football I've seen from a Lions team since our Grand Final.... But then you get the last quarter. It was up there with some of the worst football I've seen. The worst thing for me is our biggest issue and has been for 10 years is basic, basic, basic skill level mistakes. Doesn't matter how old you are. They are professional footballers. Whoever is responsible for skills at Lions should never ever get another gig anywhere. Why we can't make 10 metre handballs under no pressure or kick a ball 15 metres to open player absolutely does my head in. Don't get me wrong our desire and effort on the contest I'll never question.... But skills, boy of boy they are deplorable

2017-04-25T07:30:42+00:00

DingoGray

Guest


Macca you really should invest in another Shade of Glasses. You might then see the Forest from the Trees

2017-04-25T07:23:15+00:00

DingoGray

Guest


Considering it's a Swans home game and amount of Swans members not much a GWS input. Also the fact half the Swans supporters went home at half time probably contributed to the "Library" feel about the SCG

2017-04-25T07:16:28+00:00

DingoGray

Guest


Yeah Swans will be fine. There's clearly top 3 in Cats, Crows & Giants. But after that open field. Swans will win their next 5

2017-04-25T07:14:29+00:00

DingoGray

Guest


Melbourne might want to start winning a few games to finish 2nd. I knew you would be celebrating Freo's great escape hard, but still drinking Monday. Put the bottle down Don

2017-04-25T01:58:13+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Hill is still kicking goals and holding marks (or are you talking about Redden?). Redden might go down as one of the great trade busts. Just don't drop Sheed or Duggan. Get games into them. Le Cras is the one operating at 30% of his ability. If Simmo wants to make a statement (which I don't think is necessary), Lecca is the one most in need of a bullet. McKenzie also needs to play.

2017-04-25T01:49:20+00:00

Pumping Dougie

Guest


Exactly ... he's a frontrunner. He's been in the system for a decade and still hasn't improved in that facet. It's no good being a down-hill skier and freeloader - successful teams need blokes who can help turn the tide when it's against them. Credit to Hill for surviving at the top level but it says more to me about where West Coast is at.

2017-04-25T00:36:38+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


You can count on a top 5 pick. That is set in stone.

2017-04-25T00:11:42+00:00

Macca

Guest


PaulD - I am far from confident Martin of Fyfe will end up at the blues but I am confident they will be talking to them and I am also confident that landing a big 25 year old free agent this year and getting a top 5 (at least) pick is a good move for the blues. As for money or a flag - the money is guaranteed, premierships aren't.

2017-04-24T23:30:45+00:00

powa

Guest


Port are better than even I, a fan though they would be

2017-04-24T23:13:34+00:00

gyfox

Guest


That explains why only 11,000 at Friday night's big game (NRL) I guess? Truth is, Sydney people just don't attend live sport. Attendances at all codes are down this year - witness recent articles about Sydney A-league.

2017-04-24T22:31:39+00:00

Slane

Guest


And you constantly say you understand the NSW sporting landscape. Away supporters never travel to their opposition ground in Sydney.

2017-04-24T21:52:57+00:00

hal

Guest


Martin will stay at Richmond. Apparently he grew up barracking for Carlton. With the way Richmond are going at the moment I don't see him leaving, unless the Giants make him another offer which he can't refuse. Overall he seems like someone who invests so much of his heart and soul into Richmond, like Richo did.

2017-04-24T15:02:06+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Sandi's 20 contested possessions over the past 2 games...which no other ruckman has matched...indicate that he is much more than just the most dominant tap ruckman of all time. He has also taken more contested marks than the other ruckmen. Go figure, you critics.

2017-04-24T13:25:54+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


People get bedazzled by a ruckman who can do a good imitation of a ruck rover, but it doesn't mean that a ruckman performing the role that suits his team can't be just as, if not more, valuable. Sandi keeps the other ruckman honest and they have to compete with him in contests around the ground, which they rarely able to do. I've done a bit of (more mobile-styled) ruckwork in my time playing footy, so I'm always keen observer on the influence of ruckmen. A good ruckman doesn't need to be a ruck rover if your team has good strong midfielders. And Sandi gave Naitanui a bath for the half he was on the ground the last time they met and was a big factor in driving Freo to the lead, even when Freo was scrubbing along in their extended winless patch last year. Ruckmen are part of a midfield group and hitouts to advantage are like winning highly-in-dispute contested possessions time and time again and you need your structure around you to take proper advantage of that more volatile type "disposal".

2017-04-24T11:50:45+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


Oh I'm only being sarcastic - I don't buy it for a moment, and I honestly don't buy Martin to Carlton either, unless he prefers money to a flag

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