Comparing expectation and reality: Where the AFL's sides and stars sit after Round 10

By Gordon P Smith / Roar Guru

Round 10 is in the books, and let’s take a look at the comparison between expectations and reality.

As followers of my articles know, my ‘Spreadsheet of Death’ tracks a wide range of predictions, polling, projections, prognostications, prattling and posturing regarding the performances of AFL teams and players.

There are more than enough sites out there for you to dissect physical game statistics – I mean, who doesn’t follow how many metres gained Tom Mitchell gets per disposal, right? – but we total the vast array of human evaluations of teams and players, which sometimes provides a completely different perspective on the game.

So, let’s get to it!

If we total and average all the predictions that I track, we can see how week-by-week expectations differ from pre-season projections and actual results.

Here’s a side-by-side comparison of the three: the meta-prediction consensus record from before the season, the cumulative record from a consensus of each week’s game predictions, the actual current records, and just for fun, we’ll throw in their ELO-Following Football rating for comparison (see my article from May ninth for details; 50 is the average rating).

Adelaide (16-6 before the season, 9-1 from game predictions, 8-2 actual record, and an ELO-FF rating of 79.1) – Not one of the consensus “tri-favourites” when the season began, but they were fourth in our “meta-predictions”, so they’re not far out of place. Their weekly rating had them as favourites all ten rounds so far.

GWS (19-3, 8½-1½, 8-2, 68.4) – Despite an injury list straight out of a war movie, the Giants remain close to their projected pace. If it were me, I’d simply be trying to hold on to any top-four position while I waited for my players to come back from the training room.

Geelong (15-7, 8-2, 7-3, 59.6) – Slightly better than expected in March. Thank you, Dangerwood.

(AAP Image/Julian Smith)

West Coast (15-7, 8½-1½, 6-4, 51.8) – As a famous American football coach once said, “They are who we thought they were.” Performing below weekly expectations, as they have each year we’ve tracked them.

Western Bulldogs (17-5, 7½-2½, 6-4, 62.2) – Our weekly warning that the Bulldogs were seventh last year; sixth at R10. This is where they probably expected to be, no matter what our expectations say.

Richmond (8-14, 6-4, 6-4, 50.3) – As much as we wanted to ask what’s wrong with the Tigers over the last month, remember that none of us thought they’d make finals at all! Their meta-projection was 14th place; ninth would sting but still be a step up from expectations.

Fremantle (9-13, 3-7, 6-4, 33.4) – The Dockers made the biggest jump from both types of predictions, mostly because of what we saw last year, and then wrote them off as dead again after Round 2. But their rating suggests this week was not an aberration. One of two teams already surpassing last year’s win total.

Port Adelaide (10-12, 5-4, 5-4, 75.0) – The second-highest rating in the comp, but somehow their record doesn’t show it. The reason? Their four losses came from the first four teams on this list. Port’s lost to whom they should have lost and won when they should have as well. Expect plenty more wins. They were originally predicted to finish 11th.

Melbourne (11-11, 5-5, 5-5, 53.6) – Eleven-eleven, five-and-five, five-and-five. Yawn.

St Kilda
(12-10, 4-6, 5-5, 49.6) – Still promising, still many questions. Too early to cast this season as anything yet – the Saints could end up top four, or they could miss finals by three games.

Essendon (9-13, 4-6, 5-5, 41.5) – The other team surpassing last year’s win total, for obvious reasons. But they’re also better game to game than we’ve expected; our ratings had them favoured outright in just one game so far this season.

Collingwood (10-12, 4-6, 4-6, 52.2) – The NBA is better when the Lakers and Celtics are good. The NFL is better when the Packers and Cowboys are good. And the AFL is better when the Magpies are better than this.

North Melbourne (6-16, 3-7, 4-6, 53.8) – Despite the record matching predictions pretty well, most would agree with their rating that the ‘Roos are better than we expected them to be. They’ll surpass six wins easily.

Hawthorn (14-8, 4-6, 4-6, 37.9) – One of two teams to have already surpassed last year’s loss total. No point in our joining the chorus of philosophers on this enigmatic team.

Sydney (17-5, 6-4, 3-7, 61.0) – See Hawthorn. And congratulations, Lance Franklin, one of the top ten goal kickers of the last 120 years.

Gold Coast (5-17, 2-7, 3-6, 33.7) – Good luck, Rodney.

Carlton (3-19, ½ -9½, 3-7, 32.3) – Game to game, there hasn’t been a single game expected them to win. And yet… (Our weekly ratings actually predicted they would win three games, though.)

Brisbane (2-20, 0-10, 1-8, 5.6) – Like Carlton, there hasn’t been a single game they were expected to win. Unlike Carlton, however… (And with a single-digit rating, needless to say, we didn’t expect any wins, either.)

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Here’s a look at our “meta-Brownlow” count (see my article from May 15th for the mechanics on this) after nine rounds (the data for Round 10 will come in over the course of the coming week):

1. Rory Sloane, Adelaide – 272 points
2. Patrick Dangerfield, Geelong – 225 points
3. Dustin Martin, Richmond – 220 points
4. Scott Pendlebury, Collingwood – 201
5. Elliot Yeo, West Coast – 199
6. Joel Selwood, Geelong – 184
7. Rory Laird, Adelaide – 173
8. Zach Merrett, Essendon – 162
9. Marcus Bontempelli, Western – 160
10. Ollie Wines, Port Adelaide – 149
11. Josh Kelly, GWS – 142
12. Robbie Gray, Port Adelaide – 138
13. Lachie Neale, Fremantle – 136

Then you’ve got a host of players in the next pack, starting with Joe Daniher (Essendon), Jack Steven (St Kilda) and Josh Kennedy (Sydney) at 135; then Jeremy Cameron (GWS), Tom Mitchell (Hawthorn), and Josh Kennedy (West Coast) one point behind at 134, and so forth.

In that large pack I spoke of above, Clayton Oliver represents Melbourne at 133, Ben Cunnington has North’s highest score at 131, and Gary Ablett Jr is Gold Coast’s highest-rated player at 131. Brisbane’s highest-rated player is Tom Rockliff with 105 points, and Marc Murphy leads Carlton with 123 points.

Since Round 6, Dangerfield has moved up from fourth to second, Yeo dropped from third, Pendlebury moved up from seventh and Laird from ninth, and both Robbie Gray and the Eagle Kennedy dropped from the top ten.

Rory Sloane has led the meta-Brownlow race ever since Round 4, when he had the second of his four ‘dominant-rated’ performances in a row. (A ‘dominant’ performance in our terminology is when 90 per cent or more of reporting sites score his performance as worthy of recognition, whether that’s top three in the game or top 22 of the week or whatever their criteria is.)

Sloane is the only player with four such games, in rounds three through six, plus a ‘prominent’ performance in Round 2 (80 per cent recognition or more).

Yeo (Rounds 4, 6, and 7), Dangerfield (Rounds 1, 2, and 9), Selwood (Rounds 3, 5, and 9), and Pendlebury (Rounds 1, 6, and 9) have three dominant games each this year. Laird, Wines, Martin, Gray, Greene, and the Eagles’ Kennedy each have two.

And of course, I’ll end with my usual warning: these are not describing anything quantifiable in statistics but rather the recognition of game performances by human beings evaluating after each game. Therefore, if you want to object, you’re just objecting to (a bunch of) people’s opinions, not a fact.

But then again, I live in the birthplace of ‘alternative facts’ here in the US, so feel free to argue about anything you want and call it factual – I’ll feel right at home!

The Crowd Says:

2017-06-01T02:05:26+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Just a suggestion but create the tables in excel then email them to Josh and he'll make sure they go in. Has worked for me in the past anyway. Just make a note in the submission form where they go and that they are being emailed separately.

AUTHOR

2017-06-01T01:43:36+00:00

Gordon P Smith

Roar Guru


Joe, Cat, good suggestion. The format we submit makes tables difficult to post, but I'll do my best to make that fly for the next update a few weeks down the line, along with some kind of progression from March through present. (The fact that you care enough about my numbers to be frustrated by lacking more information is flattering: thank you!)

2017-05-30T14:52:57+00:00

dontknowmuchaboutfootball

Guest


Cheers. That's cleared things up nicely.

2017-05-30T10:24:32+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


I too found the numbers a bit hard to follow. Perhaps put them in a table by themselves then follow on below with the blurbs?

2017-05-30T09:49:54+00:00

Joe

Guest


This all looks really interesting, but I think the way you've set it out is a bit baffling. I've spent a good 10 minutes trying to work out what numbers I'm supposed to compare to understand expectations versus reality, and I've come up with almost nothing. Do you have a record of what each teams ELO was at round 1? If you were to compare that number to each team's current ELO, the comparison would be more clear, wouldn't it? Comparing a full season's predictions to only half a season of results means no straight comparison can be made, so I have no idea why for example Geelong's numbers are better than they were at season start. I'd also recommend putting an index at the very top, rather than including it in only the first team's brackets, and using a symbol to indicate split predictions, rather than cramming more numbers in there. Sorry if this all comes off negative, I'm trying to be constructive.

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2017-05-29T22:03:35+00:00

Gordon P Smith

Roar Guru


The injury adjustment is only for the ELO rating system, which doesn't have any "expectation" input. The pundits will indeed adjust for a "dead Kennedy", but the computer doesn't know about it unless it has additional information besides simply previous game performances, which is all it has to go on.

2017-05-29T21:05:59+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


RE: injured players ... doesn't expectation already take into account any players injured prior to a match starting? Surely this week people will give WCE less of a chase because JK is not playing. If WCE NicNat was fit, expectations would also be different. Seems to me any 'injury adjustment system' would just double down on this.

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2017-05-29T19:55:16+00:00

Gordon P Smith

Roar Guru


Glad to, DKMAF. Second question first: the half-wins represent the games when the wide range of prognosticators are split on the outcome of the game. For ex, this week's North/Richmond game is shaping up that way from what I've seen so far. Carlton had one game (if memory serves, it was R4 v Gold Coast) where some folks picked the Blues. As for the ELO, it comes from the chess world, not 70s rock music. (Best laugh of the day - thanks!) A man named Arpad Elo invented a rating system that chess adopted about 40 years ago; that's where I first came in contact with it, as I was kind of a chess fan in my teens and twenties. The basic concept transfers to any sport: Your rating goes up if you perform better than expected in a match, and goes down for your opponent by the same amount. (So the sum of all the ratings should remain the same forever.) The bigger an upset (compared to expectations), the bigger the change in each team's rating. We use 50 as our average rating, by the way, so all 18 ratings should always total 900. For ex., GWS is expected to defeat Essendon by about 30 points according to the ELO-FF. (FF stands for "Following Football", which was the blog I ran when I set this system up. The name just stuck.) If the Giants DO win by 30, neither team's rating changes. Whatever the deviation from a 30-point win, that determines the change in rating: a draw essentially means Essendon "played 30 points better than expected", while GWS "played 30 points worse". The change in rating is a fraction of that number; currently, just under an eighth of it, with a limiting factor in place for runaways As a postscript, I've been monkeying with fixing an inherent flaw in any Elo system: it has no idea when good players are injured. West Coast's rating is for all the games when Kennedy played, but he won't play this weekend, which has to help their opponent. A reader suggested an adjustment system which takes this into account, but I'm still experimenting with making it into something that's more accurate than the one I have, which so far holds its own against the oddsmakers. (PS - I have some similar systems for NFL, CFL, and division 1 college football in America as well.)

2017-05-29T14:45:04+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


A strange excuse for Port compared to Freo where you say their big loss was not an aberration...yet they have played all the top 11 bar GWS.

2017-05-29T07:13:42+00:00

dontknowmuchaboutfootball

Guest


Gordon, please: do a feeble mind a favour and explain what the ELO-Following Football thing is. I just can't get my head around how the opinions of the Electric Light Orchestra members are so significant. Also, if it's not too much trouble can you explain how there are quantities of X and 1/2 against the "the cumulative record from a consensus of each week’s game predictions". Was the consensus that certain games would end in a draw?

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2017-05-29T05:09:48+00:00

Gordon P Smith

Roar Guru


I do, Darren, but because it made my comment about Port losing to the first four teams on this list work, I skewed my listing order to fit the Port posting. And you're right that an extensive injury list precludes nothing - not after last year. Frankly, we're fast approaching the time of the year when almost everyone can use injuries as their excuse for failure. The team that wins will be the team that refuses to do so.

2017-05-28T23:23:50+00:00

Darren

Guest


You do realise the dogs are in 4th not west coast and the all of a sudden look out gws have a massive injury list this year still pales compared to the dogs last year and even this year

2017-05-28T23:15:52+00:00

Wayne

Roar Guru


St.Kilda are about where you would expect them for a developing side. Give the 7-10 slot a shake up, win games against high ranking teams and lose games against teams below them. Pretty much expectation for this season

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