Super Rugby Round 16 (part one), plus one curly international question

By Brett McKay / Expert

It’s a real mixed grill we’re serving up for you this week, Roarers. An entrée of Super Rugby, an appetiser of our sure things, and the main course – the return of the big question for the June Internationals kicking off this weekend.

It means our heads are all other place trying to think of different competitions and Test Series and a British and Irish Lions Tour, and teams playing everywhere, but there’s one thing the four of us have in common with all of you: what a time to be a rugby fan!

So let’s crack into it, starting with a whip through the one Super Rugby game on this weekend.

Last week: Everyone else 5, Digger 4

Harry Jones
“The wind-tunnelled Cake Tin is the graveyard of good kickers, which is why the Canes don’t have one; but it’s a particular bad-wobbling dead-duck 2-iron you need in that maelstrom.

“The ‘Canes by a wounded drop goal. Plenty of niggle and plenty of sledge.”

Tip: Hurricanes.

Brett
So, the Hurricanes are back pretty close to full-strength. Milner-Skudder slots back on the wing like he’s been there the whole time; Julian Savea running out in his 100th game in the same week he and his wife announced they’re having a mini-bus… And the Capital is starting to ramp it up in preparation for the arrival of the Lions and all that comes with them.

But the Chiefs are desperate. And I like desperation at this time of year. Hell, I’m sweating on it…

TIPS: Chiefs.

Nobes
“Round 16 one game show, I must say a very interesting one, presents itself as a cracker.

“The powerful ‘Canes will come out as winners by small margin, something like the game played this past weekend between Crusaders and Highlanders. I know all the attention will be on the Lions tour but I will not miss this battle for anything in the world.”

TIPS: Hurricanes.

Digger
“’Canes by plenty.”

TIPS: Hurricanes

Brett’s note: I did say to keep the tips brief this week, so I kind of asked for that…

Get your tips in now – The Crowd’s tips will be revealed before kick-off in the first game of the weekend.

The Sure Thing

The one thing we’re all absolutely certain will happen over the course of this weekend. Well, pretty certain…

Digger
“’Canes will get a bonus point this weekend.”

Harry
“Steve Hansen detests Super Rugby right now.”

Nobes
“Jaguares will be playing with a different shirt this weekend and not against a SR team.”

Brett
With all that desperation being shared between the Chiefs and I, there really is only one sure thing this weekend:

‘Canes by plenty…

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Return of the Big Question

Q: With the June Internationals commencing this weekend, what is the doomsday scenario for your respective national side for the forthcoming Tests, and why?

Harry
“There have been so many Bok doomsdays in the last year; we were force-fed pasta, sushi, chimichurra, rarebit, Kiwi genitalia, and Guinness in a rancid stew of self-delusional racially-poisonous political kak (a technical Saffa term).

“But I suppose there is one nightmare still: the French surrender.

“We win ugly. We win with Elton Jantjies making some dumb lucky play, after stinking up the park for 79 tackle-free minutes. We win using some trick play Allister ‘Kootchie Koo’ Coetzee claims he designed, but was in Heyneke Meyer’s 2013 playbook. France tries to play muscle ball. We muscle back.

We learn nothing. The coach is spared, and all critics are labelled apartheid nostalgics. We are stuck. Rugby World Cup 2019 is already doomed.

“I want to win. But not with a win that hastens and cements our ultimate lower tier status.”

Nobes
“The results and performance of the Jaguares in 2017 raise questions that the head coach of Los Pumas, Daniel Hourcade (who also supervises Jaguares), might find difficult to answer in this June window.

“Los Pumas have to face England twice and Georgia. On paper Georgia seems like a game the Pumas can win, but a second-string England (many of the players are with the Lions) will test the Pumas/Jaguares to the maximum of their potential.

“Here is time to remind you that a second-string France clearly won 27-0 over the Pumas in this same window last year. The question remains if the players that have been playing for Jaguares can perform and do better things on the field just by changing their shirt. These same forwards have found difficulties in all set pieces of the game, and I am sure that Eddie Jones, a super-smart coach, has taken notes on these weaknesses.

“Unless Hourcade have been able to fix all this in two weeks (seems like a monumental task), I am afraid that England will come out as a winner. On the other hand, the coaching staff for Pumas / Jaguares will feel the already hot heat to be raised by a few degrees if the performance of the squad on the field does not raise its level.”

Digger
“Simple, losing the series, especially white-washed; in fact, ten to nothing to the Lions would see a number scrambling away with tails between legs as the New Zealand provinces turn on each other, and calls for Steve Tew to resign will grow louder and louder as each province puts up their own nominee.

“Adding to this scenario would be to see several starting All Blacks careers ended due to concussion while the Lions tear us apart, exposing our inexperienced line up and ruining our set piece, losing the Eden Park record, blowing the stranglehold New Zealand seems to have over visiting teams to these shores.

(AAP Image/David Rowland)

“And all the while watching our SANZAAR partners quietly go about ruthlessly dismantling their opposition and lying in wait for the Rugby Championship as they can smell the blood in the water, with Michael Cheika in particular with plenty of advice for Steve Hansen on what he should have done better.

“And to really top it all off, all of the Hurricanes’ ABs will be injured and ruled out of the rest of Super Rugby to completely rip the undies.”

Brett
There’s two degrees of doomsday for the Wallabies the June.

Three lacklustre wins over Fiji, Scotland, and Italy, coming after huge missed tackle counts and handling errors galore, and long periods of trailing would only make an already terse Australian rugby fan angrier.

Like seriously angry; letters-to-the-prime-minister angry. Obviously, The Roar is well equipped and well used to angry Australian rugby fans, but even our servers might need reinforcing if the Wallabies prove that there is, indeed, no way to shake ordinary form.

But worse than that would be another loss to Scotland. I mean, just think about what that would… nope, I can’t even finish the sentence.

That’s your doomsday, right there.

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The Crowd Says:

2017-06-08T23:54:48+00:00

Nobrain

Roar Guru


The two props worry me a a bit.. They are very young.

AUTHOR

2017-06-08T22:44:08+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


That looks like a decent side, Nobes. Good looking pack, especially..

AUTHOR

2017-06-08T22:41:35+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


I still can't believe Cronje has managed to nudge ahead of de Klerk even at the Lions, his service from the ruck and his passing in general offends me as a halfback...

2017-06-08T21:54:02+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


Go well... and notch a much needed win against those French types ;)

2017-06-08T19:28:14+00:00

Nobrain

Roar Guru


LOS PUMAS: 1- Lucas Noguera Paz, 2- Agustín Creevy, 3- Enrique Pieretto, 4- Matías Alemanno, 5- Tomás Lavanini, 6- Pablo Matera, 7- Javier Ortega Desio, 8- Juan Manuel Leguizamón, 9- Martín Landajo, 10- Nicolás Sánchez, 11- Emiliano Boffelli, 12- Jerónimo de la Fuente, 13- Matías Orlando, 14- Matías Moroni, 15- Joaquín Tuculet. Suplentes: 16- Julián Montoya, 17- Santiago García Botta, 18- Nahuel TetazChaparro, 19- Guido Petti, 20- Leonardo Senatore, 21- Gonzalo Bertranou, 22- Juan Martín Hernández, 23- Ramiro Moyano.

2017-06-08T19:19:04+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


France v South Africa Coetzee has 54 caps in his starting backline (0 in the back three), so it'll be bombs away for Machenaud, Plisson, Fickou, and Dulin. First time open field tackling could be a problem for the little Boklings: Jantjies is short-armed and squeamish, Rookie Ross Cronje is not Test ready, Rhule is a matador, and Skosan is a bit slender. Bench is good (Hougaard, Frans Steyn, Leyds). The SA pack should be fine. Mostert and Eben and Mohoje and Marx should tackle French BACKWARDS. PSDT and JL du P will continue that in 2H. SA by 5

2017-06-08T09:49:09+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Well put together, Brett. Sets up a great finish -- and I try to go wire to wire! (With brief Nobes lead).

2017-06-08T05:56:26+00:00

Akari

Roar Rookie


She'll be a sure-thing unstoppable mini-bus on the wing for the Black Ferns and what a scary thought, Brett.

AUTHOR

2017-06-08T05:14:44+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Mini-bus seems appropriate. Imagine how mobile *he'll* be if he's only 3/4 Dad's size... ( * yes, could be a girl, obviously..)

2017-06-08T03:54:24+00:00

Tim Reynolds

Guest


Loved that "mini-bus" too, but knowing the size of Polynesian kids you've only got a year or so of pushing him (?) around before he's bumping them off like Dad and Uncle.

2017-06-08T02:49:53+00:00

John R

Roar Guru


i wonder if this is what it's like in New Zealand and South Africa as well.

AUTHOR

2017-06-08T02:48:10+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


It's already happening John. A Scotland team well and truly on the up, and with only a couple of guys out on Lions duty is being referred to as 'severely weakened'...

2017-06-08T02:42:28+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


Just gotta do things proper cuz, ya know?

2017-06-08T02:41:49+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


Hey Ric, great win last night aye? Congrats. Yeah, Gatland is the wrong man. We will see.

2017-06-08T02:04:29+00:00

Daz

Guest


They say rugby players have bone above the eyebrow. Well that's not quite true. Maybe for some it is. For some there is still a top two inches and if Cheika is to succeed he needs to get the neurones firing positively in that space among his charges. That's the difference he needs to make. Players are all pretty much the same but the kiwis have simply stepped up in confidence and self-belief since the WC. The answer: absolute physicality and making them pay for every centimeter gained.

2017-06-08T01:51:15+00:00

Stin

Guest


''Mini-bus''!. The best.

2017-06-08T01:05:24+00:00

John R

Roar Guru


Wallabies are in a wee bit of a can't win situation aye. Like even if they win well, people will subvert it by saying their competition was weak.

2017-06-08T00:36:13+00:00

Fionn

Guest


And yet another round where no one picks the Brumbies. Pathetic!

2017-06-08T00:34:33+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


Thanks gents... geez Diggeriwi you really took that 'doomsday scenario' to heart eh bro ;)

2017-06-07T23:01:13+00:00

Kashmir Pete

Roar Guru


RN Smiling (happy) just to read your list inn June Here's hoping come December. KP :-)

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