Six quick takes from AFL Round 16

By Josh / Expert

2017 has been a sea of surprising results, so isn’t it almost comforting to be able to rely on something like North losing a close game, or Richmond giving their fans the football equivalent of a punch in the face? Here’s my quick takes from Round 16.

Nine sides in the finals race, so who misses out?
In 2016 we had a straightforward top eight from very early on in the season – in 2017, it has taken much much longer to get even a slightly clear idea of who is in the mix.

After this weekend’s action though, I would say it likely boils down to the current top nine teams on the ladder. In order, that’s:

Every team in that mix has had their high moments and their low moments, some of them this weekend.

St Kilda had what might a season-defining game, against a Richmond side who clearly took offence to me calling them consistent during the week.

Port Adelaide went a long way to shedding the ‘pretenders’ tag with a win over West Coast.

Sydney slamming the Suns wasn’t a season-defining win by any means, but it was one shows how consistent they’ve become, and puts them in the top eight for the first time all year after an 0-6 start.

They’ve all won more than they’ve lost however and they’ve all displayed a quality of football good enough to convince us they can keep doing that for the remaining seven rounds of the season.

Essendon could still be rated an outside chance too but they’ve got at least one win to make up and a few more to really cement their place.

Their win over Collingwood was good but it’s just one win – they need to play their best more often.

So if we narrow it down to that top nine, who is going to be squeezed out?

Things change so much from week to week this year that it’s hard to say.

Right now I’d say any of the six sides from fourth to ninth could miss – and anyone of them could still make the top four!

It’s going to be a mad dash to the finish line.

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Welcome to Nyhuis
Ryan Nyhuis might play a couple hundred games in his AFL career and never have a more memorable performance than he did on debut, kicking four goals including two crucial ones in the last term to deliver a four-point win for Fremantle.

Taken at pick 34 in last year’s rookie draft, he wasn’t even meant to be playing on Sunday – only coming into the side as a replacement for a late withdrawal in David Mundy.

As a Roos fan I looked at that news before the game and thought oh good, that probably makes the job a little easier – and clearly, I was cursed for my hubris.

Seriously, without trying to play the martyred North fan card too heavily, it’s always nice to be the backdrop against which previously unheralded players do great works.

To make things even more incredible, consider this – he has actually played the vast majority of his footy as a defender and has never kicked a goal in 25 senior appearances in the WAFL.

Okay, enough of that – really, it was an incredible debut, the best of the year without a doubt, and probably the best we have seen or will see for many years.

Best of luck to the young man and here’s hoping we see plenty more games of this kind from him in the future. Even if not, he’s already got a heck of a story to tell the grandkids.

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The Dogs’ premiership defence is dead
It was pretty easy to get carried away with the Dogs’ potential in 2017 after the magic month that was September last year, but when we look back on it now it was a bit naive.

The Bulldogs just had so many players who played the best month of footy in their lives in September last year, and the odds of seeing that form from them ever again were incredibly low.

Liam Picken and Clay Smith kicked eight goals apiece, or two goals per game in that finals series. This year they’ve kicked 18 from 23 games combined.

There’s no shame in what’s happening to the Dogs though. They are Hawthorn of 2008 – an immensely talented young team who pinched one well before their time.

There’s a lot left to played out between now and then but the longterm fate of that Hawthorn team bodes well for Dogs fans in five years time or so, if they make the right decisions along the way. I’ll write some more about that during the week – stay tuned.

Even if they don’t, they won’t feel too aggrieved – they’ve got easily one of the top five best stories in the history of our game to remember seeing with their own eyes.

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Fyfe finds his best form
Nat Fyfe has had a pretty solid year all things considered, it just hasn’t had the game-breaking superstar performances we’re used to seeing from him – till today, at least.

33 disposals was an equal season-high from the Fremantle captain, and he added a goal as well, but probably the best feature was his three goal assists – he’s only had five for the year in thirteen games previously.

It’ll be great to see what he can make of the remaining seven games for the year – if he can put in another four or five more games like this one, Fremantle still has something to say about how the ladder figures out.

Come home with a wet sail and it might even be enough to make a late play for All-Australian selection.

On top of that though, it might re-start the conversation about his future. As things stand, he has said he expects a new deal to be done at Fremantle soon, and that seems the likely result present.

But could some late-year superstar performances also tempt a team to throw their hat in the ring at the rumoured $1.5 million asking price? Time will tell.

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Who is really to blame at Collingwood?
It’s the question that’s going to keep Eddie McGuire up at night for the next seven weeks – who is really to blame for Collingwood’s increasingly ugly situation, and what needs to be done to fix it?

It’s easy to make calls from outside the four walls at Collingwood but the simple truth is that without being a fly on the wall, we don’t know in detail who decided on what.

The senior coach is always the figurehead of a club but they don’t get to run it like a dictator. Nathan Buckley could be blamed for the recruitment of Chris Mayne, so far an abject failure, but the fact Buckley refuses to play him does little to suggest he wanted him at the club in the first place.

The difference between where Collingwood are at and where the kind of communication that goes around them says they should be has been stark.

I said at the start of the year that expectations on them to make finals given where their list is at were unrealistic, and I stick by that.

I mean, this is a team without any kind of mature forward line spearhead, a backline built around the rejects of other clubs, and a midfield which bar Scott Pendlebury is as blue-collar as they come.

It’s a work-in-progress team, and one that has had so many fingerprints on it due to a revolving door of football bosses over the last few years that it’s hard to tell who has done the most damage.

Perhaps the trick to fixing a team damaged by so many rash changes over the past five years is not to make more rash changes but instead find a way to introduce some stability into the group and allow real growth to happen.

A garden doesn’t grow overnight and certainly not if you take an axe to the fresh sprouts every couple of weeks – work out how to make a united football department where everyone is on the same page, and then show the patience required to let it bloom.

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Dayne Zorko is an All-Australian lock
No one is beating out Michael Walters’ 32 disposals and six goals last week for the best individual performance of the year, but Dayne Zorko damn sure gave it a shake on Saturday night.

36 touches, four goals and twelve tackles was arguably the best we’ve seen yet from one of the most well-rounded and underrated midfielders in the game.

I had him in my half-way All-Australian team this year and a performance like this has him absolutely locked up for the final thing so long as he keeps up solid form over the last seven weeks.

A second Brisbane Lions best-and-fairest is on the way too and hopefully plenty of votes on Brownlow night.

He could even win one someday if the Lions start winning more than they lose while he’s still at his peak.

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The Crowd Says:

2017-07-11T13:25:35+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Balic's issue is not homesickness but he might ask to go home because he has a family issue. One of the family is struggling and he is needing to take more responsibility than is reasonable to ask of him.

2017-07-11T12:58:16+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


Well there "Jon boy", I don't need to do anything. He's signed up for another year and that's the reality. You can continue to struggle with that reality all you like, knock yourself out. But essentially from a football management perspective, there's plenty of reasonable logic to it.

2017-07-11T08:25:31+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


You know Preuss is 23yo and still hasn't made it. There would need to be a reasonable improvement. Grundy and Gawn are more impressive.

2017-07-11T08:24:16+00:00

Jon boy

Guest


D, C, the best mentoring Sandi Can do now is to be Ruck coach recruit a young Ruckman with sandies money There is Strnadica -Apenessdraft another 18 year old like Darcy ,, Taberner can back up I reckon Sandi will have a long think about it and pull the pin And you people have to stop clinging

2017-07-11T07:46:47+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


Hate to interupt this "conversation", but a bit of a Maccarisation there. Who were you "abused" by? And it was hardly revelatory, he was already playing at that stage and acknowledged by most that he played beautifully (albeit fatiguing later in the game). Most Freo fans also knew he was going to have a fair whack of potential from what they'd seen of him, both in the preseason and at Peel. The actual issue was whether he could carry the ruck over a season at his age and whether he might benefit from getting a chop out and mentoring from one of the best ruckmen over the past decade for a season or two. We've all seen young ruckmen being burnt by their clubs and spending season after season on the injured list as a result, would be good to avoid that if possible.

2017-07-11T07:39:40+00:00

Jon boy

Guest


Dead Right Macca Those people are still on the other site clinging to Sandi Hodgey put his hand up Time big Sandi did the same

2017-07-11T07:37:27+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


He'll just have to settle for winning the game as consolation 13th.

2017-07-11T07:30:50+00:00

Col from Brissie

Roar Guru


13th Man, don't you know that the reason Nyhuis didn't get it was because Fremantle didn't nominate him - just ask Don Freo.

2017-07-11T07:28:25+00:00

Jon boy

Guest


13 Very good take on those players Spot On,,,,,I worry that Tucker-Balic and Langdon have still not signed on by now Freo in the past have been good at getting it done Quickly these 3 have to play the next 7 games and feel part of the team

2017-07-11T07:19:14+00:00

Macca

Guest


Hey Jon Boy - I remember a few weeks back I was saying that Freo should be playing the young ruckmen ahead of Sandilands and was abused for the ridiculous thought of playing an 18 year old in the ruck - but suddenly Darcy is the next AA. Looks like you and me were on to something.

2017-07-11T07:16:28+00:00

Macca

Guest


13th man - while the nomination is supposedly for this weeks performance there is an element of year to date performance involved - with only 22 players able to be nominated they don't want to give it to someone who gets his debut in round 16 as a late replacement and might only play 2 or 3 games for the year when Curnow has been putting up great efforts for a month or more. You also have to remember Nyhuis had just 9 possessions, took just 5 marks and laid one tackle compared with Curnow's 19 possessions, 10 marks (4 contested) and 4 tackles - kicking 2 more goals doesn't make up for all of that. I wouldn't be surprised to see Darcy play worse than he has been and get the nomination and if Nyhuis backs up next week he will be a real chance.

2017-07-11T07:10:43+00:00

Jon boy

Guest


100% right on that but a couple of blokes want to stick with Sandi so it looks Darcy for Peel no place for both I rate Preuss Reckon he will be Number one before to long takes big grabs around the ground which is rare these days for ruckmen

2017-07-11T07:08:33+00:00

13th Man

Guest


Nyhuis robbed ... Typical Vic bias. Darcy should have got it last week, Nyhuis this week.

2017-07-11T07:08:29+00:00

Macca

Guest


13th Man - I think you missed the player likely to be one of the best of the crop on that list in Charlie Curnow but I agree with the sentiment. Interestingly if you compare Curnow to Moore (with Moore having had a year longer in the system and having played double the number of games) Curnow this year leads disposals 13.6 to 9.9, is equal in marks (5.8 a piece) lays more tackles (2.6 to 1.9) effective disposals (10.4 to 6.8) and gets slightly more contested possessions (5.4 to 5.2) while Moore kicks 1.4 goals to Curnow's 0.7. If Curnow continues his form of the last 3 weeks the gap between them will get even bigger by years end.

2017-07-11T07:07:13+00:00

13th Man

Guest


I had been saying it for weeks he was carrying an injury. The bloke is still one of the best 5 players in the AFL and with the class Freos young players are showing I have no doubt it's only a matter of days before he signs on. Absolute star... Never doubted him and he will be better for the games this year.

2017-07-11T07:04:17+00:00

13th Man

Guest


How Darcy didn't get one of those last week and Nyhuis this week is beyond me however. Surely Darcy has been the best of the under 21 players over the last 3 weeks. Apart from his mistake with 30 seconds left which thankfully Goldy missed he won the ruck battle and that goes after he absolutely smashed Longer the week before. Might be biased but I really think both these boys are pretty stiff not to get nominated.

2017-07-11T06:58:19+00:00

13th Man

Guest


Last two years looks like really good drafts for Freo. All of them have now debuted and of them I think Darcy is a star, Logue will be very good, Cox has the best hands of any draftee since Fyfe and he will imprve, Ryan looks like a better version of Sutcliffe who can actually kick, Tucker will be a very good midfielder/forward (far better than Sheridan or Suban), Nyhuis looks exciting but it's hard to get a read on him after one game. The best of the lot could well be Balic however, I just worry he may well succumb to homesickness however. Add into this Blakely, Weller, Langdon from the crop before and you have to say Brad Lloyd has done very well.

2017-07-11T06:50:00+00:00

13th Man

Guest


You best hope they win one this year. Gut feel says he'll go to St Kilda.

2017-07-11T06:48:48+00:00

13th Man

Guest


Can't wait for Darcy v Preuss next year... Two very big boys who could well be the best two rucks in the comp in 5 years time.

2017-07-11T06:47:09+00:00

13th Man

Guest


Disagree completely... I would choose Brisbane's list over Collingwood's right now. The Blues, Lions, North, now Freo as well are all following the right path of getting games into their young players. Collingwood's young players don't look like anywhere near as good as the likes of those on other lists. Carlton have SPS, Marchbank, Silvagni and co all performing well. Freo have the likes of Blakely, Tucker, Big boy Darcy, Ryan and now even Nyhuis who all look the goods. Even Brisbane have guys like Hipwood and Witheden and Barrett who all look like very good players. The Pies have no young players that are that impressive with the exception of perhaps Darcy Moore. The fact that has beens like Chris Mayne and Daniel Wells were brought in shows where Collingwood are at. A few stars but after the big 3 of Pendles, Sidebpttom and Treloar they have almost the worst list in the comp.

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