Five talking points from Storm vs Cowboys NRL Grand Final

By Scott Pryde / Expert

The 2017 NRL grand final has been won by the Melbourne Storm in a dominant display, defeating the North Queensland Cowboys by 28 points. Here are my talking points from the game.

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Are this Storm team the best ever?
The 2017 Melbourne Storm are going to go down in history as one of the best ever. While Craig Bellamy’s side have made seven out of the last 12 grand finals, this is almost undoubtedly the best they have ever been.

The only side over the last decade that can hold a candle to them is the one which was over the salary cap a decade ago.

And sure there have been some good teams in the modern era, and right back through rugby league history, but can any of them truly hold anything up to what the Storm have achieved this year. They have three of the best players to ever lace up a boot, and are a complete side right across the park.

But it’s more than that. They haven’t played a wrestling, slow style of rugby league which was common of Melbourne in the last few years. Genuinely, they have been entertainers.

While their defence, as you’d expect from any Craig Bellamy-coached side has been strong, their attack actually has fans wanting to watch them. Josh Addo-Carr and Suliasi Vunivalu manning the wings are only part of the reason why.

Then there are the forwards. Jesse Bromwich is close to the best prop in the game, Dale Finucane has gone from honest toiler to cusp of Origin selection and Tohu Harris is dangerous – as we saw last night.

Then there’s Nelson Asofa-Solomona, who is an absolute giant, and back out on the edges with youngster Curtis Scott and the veteran Will Chambers. Cap it all off with Cameron Munster, and it’s little wonder why they have been so good.

I’ve praised Melbourne all season long, and it’s been hard not to. But now, with the premiership victory under their belt, and just a couple of losses all season, we can officially put them on a shortlist of the greatest ever teams.

The Cowboys will be back and might just be favourites in 2018
While North Queensland failed to get the job done last night, this is a side who are going into 2018 as the favourites. There is almost no doubt about it.

So long as Johnathan Thurston hasn’t lost his way after spending months on the sidelines, their second half of the season – a giant-killing run to the grand final – has set them up for success when the new season kicks off in March.

Think about it for just a moment. Insert Thurston and rugby league’s best prop Matt Scott back into a grand final team. What does that make them for the next season?

Yeah, premiership favourites.

Sure, Melbourne will be up there again and I expect them to continue going brilliantly with Munster taking over from Cronk, but if Slater is to go as well it becomes a different story altogether.

On top of Scott and Thurston, the Cowboys also welcome Jordan McLean. On top of that, they lost no players from their grand final 17.

If stability is a key, then North Queensland have nailed it for next season.

The amount Michael Morgan has learnt this year leading the team around the park will be only beneficial, while Lachlan Coote has had a strong finals run. Their bench forwards have punched above their weight and Te Maire Martin is going to be a wonderful backup or utility for the next 12 months as he continues to prepare for a complete takeover of Thurston’s position in 2019.

It’ll also be the season where North Queensland can send Thurston out a winner. All the stars are aligning, and with Paul Green at the helm, if they aren’t favourites come Round 1, then something has gone dismally wrong in the pre-season.

So… Jason Taumalolo can be stopped
In saying all of that, last night, we remembered that the Kiwi lock, the human wrecking-ball, can be stopped. It’s possible, but it takes an 80-minute effort in defence.

It’s virtually the first time all season Taumalolo has been even slowed down. He came out of the regular season averaging more than 200 metres per game and stepped it up in the finals, going past 250 in each of the three matches, powering the Cowboys to an unexpected grand final appearance.

Last night, he was limited to just 124 metres from 12 runs. He had less touches of the footy, and while he still made ten metres a carry, it simply wasn’t enough. The Storm defence rushed off the mark, jammed him for space all night, and in the end it was one of the keys to them running away with the match during the back end of the first half and again in the second.

Melbourne’s back five return to the top, so it’s little surprise Melbourne played their best game in a month
It takes one look at the statsheet differences between the grand final and each of the Storm’s previous two finals to understand exactly what made all the difference.

The back five. They all played superb games of footy, getting the Storm’s sets off to fantastic starts, while Billy Slater was also the Clive Churchill medal winner (despite Cameron Smith probably being best on ground – he simply came up with the big play when it was needed).

Josh Addo-Carr made 224 metres from 18 runs and scored a double. He has pace to burn and showed it last night, while Chambers and Scott did their job and then some. Vunivalu was a little quiet with limited opportunity, but still made every touch of the footy count.

Put simply, they are going to become even more important in 2018 without Cronk there to run the show. Coming into the middle and doing more yardage runs are going to be crucial for a Storm team who are likely to be under more pressure at times than what they faced for the majority of 2017.

Cameron Munster is perfectly capable of replacing Cooper Cronk
Munster has grown significantly in 2017, preparing for life after Cronk. He, alongside Jahrome Hughes, is going to be tasked with leading the side from the six and seven next year, and Munster will be the key half.

While he has played a running game this season, which complements Cronk’s kicking fantastically, he has shown time and time again his vision is impeccable and the opportunities kicking have all been taken well.

Consistency is a big theme in Melbourne, and Munster has been just that. He handled the bright lights of State of Origin well and has put in solid performances all finals. He capped it off last night, running for 130 metres, being involved in some good lead-up work and making a staggering 33 tackles – that’s plenty for a half.

He is prepared to roll up the sleeves and do the hard yards, but has been involved in plenty of crisp attacking plays this season as well.

While there may be growing pains, Munster is more than capable of taking over from Cronk.

Roarers, what did you make of the NRL grand final? Drop a comment below and let us know!

The Crowd Says:

2017-10-02T20:20:00+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


This is a very good side and it stacks up favourably to most premiership winning teams. But there's no way it's a lay down misere to be the greatest team ever. Dragons from their golden era. Early 70s Souths teams, 1975 Roosters, 81-83 Eels, early 90s Raiders and Broncos, 95 Bulldogs, 98 Broncos, early 2000s Roosters, late 2000s Manly. There would need to be some pretty compelling reasoning to rate this Storm team ahead of any of those great sides. They deserve to be in the conversation.

2017-10-02T11:58:07+00:00

Johnno

Guest


Broncos 97 was such a good side, and lost glen Lazurus mid season to a season ending knee injury. So adding Lazo to the list of the Broncos 97 side..

2017-10-02T08:12:42+00:00

Chris.P.Bacon

Guest


Sorry Ben....may I add Bulldogs 1980's,,,,,,if you put the Eels in the '80's I'll put my two bobs worth in an add the 'Dogs of that same era. They weren't flash but they were good and tough!

2017-10-02T08:03:51+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


I don't think the refs needed to bin anyone either, they handled it ok. I don't think they would have tolerated too many more though. It was deliberate though but as Dean-o has said below, all teams do it.

2017-10-02T07:39:55+00:00

Emcie

Roar Guru


Not when the rest of the comp was expected to though. Those teams still competed under the same rules as everyone else

2017-10-02T07:29:12+00:00

Brendon

Guest


Actually if we are comparing the greats of the eels, Bulldogs, saints and Brisbane then Melbourne have 4 premierships. The salary cap didn't exist back then so the comparison needs to include the Storm team where the cap didn't exist as well, right?

2017-10-02T07:26:47+00:00

Brendon

Guest


I did think the penalties were a little weak, especially since Cronk was destroyed post kick by the cowboys number 8 and Munster was completely upended but I can live with them. the only one I wasn't sure about, if I'm honest is the Slater working the head? I didn't even see him in that tackle, it was a weird penalty..... Not a hater, I like you TB! I didn't think a send off was needed though...

2017-10-02T06:38:21+00:00

Ben Lewis

Roar Pro


Storm are nowhere near the best ever side. The Broncos in the early 90s, the Eels in the 80s, the Roosters in the 70s, and especially the Dragons in the late 50s to early 60s. Best side of the NRL era perhaps, but to call them the best ever side is almost insulting.

2017-10-02T05:58:26+00:00

Mushi

Guest


I agree, but it's also rare that the miscues still go to hand or bounce back. I'm still saying a team should have won by more than two converted tries, that's still suggesting a class gap (just not a chasm)

2017-10-02T04:48:59+00:00

Duncan Smith

Guest


Wait a minute - I never said Canberra 94 was better than the Storm. I listed those teams in chronological order, not order of merit. I think Melbourne 2017 is probably the best club side I've seen.

2017-10-02T04:46:57+00:00

steveng

Roar Rookie


All the NRL sides bar the Storm were all "Topsy Turvy' throughout this year. The NRL comp wasn't a real hard fought contest this year, in comparison to other years. Lots of injuries (to key players) in virtually every side and especially to the top sides. The continual rabble with SOO has also affected the NRL comp immensely this year and it will do so each year, more and more, this is especially as sides are reliant on certain players for winning games. There wasn't much in the GF, a boring game that was inevitable and the Storm never looked threatened and/or looked like losing. Bring on next year but, somehow I think that it will be like this year. Great effort and articles throughout the year Scotty and keep them coming. And in summation, all I can say is, 'Go the Rabbits' in 2018!

2017-10-02T04:41:09+00:00

Anthony

Guest


Look at the Raiders 1994 side Manly s 2011 side Parra 81 82 and 83 side We forget very quick

2017-10-02T04:09:14+00:00

Glenn

Guest


sorry, Wang, with comments like that I can only assume you never saw those Saints teams play and your criteria for greatness are irrelevant. Saints are the only team in the history of sport where they had to change the rules to stop them from winning. And even now Saints probably have more supporters in Queensland than the Storm have in Melbourne.

2017-10-02T03:51:56+00:00

Fish

Guest


Great effort from the Cowboys last night but they just weren't in it. This Storm side as good as I've seen. Up there with the Dominant Broncos of the 90's, the Great Green Machine, and Sterlo's eels of the 80's. They are the ones I remember, I am sure there were plenty before that. Last night showed the gap of experience between Green and Bellamy. Bellamy would of woken up to the defensive trend and moved Lolo to the edge and attacked the peripheries allowing a bit more time and space. Green tends to get caught in a box and stuggles in flexibility. Slater deserved his CCM. I don't like him as a player, too much unnessisary grub acts in his game, but he most certainly deserved the accolade. Martin may be small in physique but boy he has some heart. He copped plenty last night, as was always going to be the case, but he never give up trying. Also Winterstein, busted to buggery and on one leg, but gee didn't he rip in. Storm deserved winners and a dream season, but Scott it will be the Sea Eagles taking the premiership next year. I know another oversight from yourself but I can forgive you.?

2017-10-02T03:29:13+00:00

Dean

Guest


Duncan. You're kidding the1994 Canberra side better than the current Storm team.? Canberrs were my team right up until 1998 when the Storm were admitted into the NRL I witnessed every game the Raiders played in 1994. As I have only good memories from being a Canberra fan,no I don't think they were as good as this years Storm model. Don't get me wrong Duncan, if i truly thought that thst years Canberra's modael was the better of thr 2 teams, I would happily agree. But then again,we are talking about our opinions.

2017-10-02T03:15:28+00:00

Jimmmy

Guest


Yeah Mushi I agree to a point but Melbourne we’re willing to throw the pass , to take the risk and to trust in their skills to recover it . One piece of play that showed me the difference between the two sides was the Feldt break just before half time. If Melbourne made that break it is try time. What happens?Feldt dies with the ball. You have to set yourself up for the final pass and you have to throw it. They were a clas above.

2017-10-02T03:12:35+00:00

Dean

Guest


Doc. All teams use cynical tactics. Name onenteam that doesn't. I suppose uourbteam yeh.

2017-10-02T03:10:01+00:00

Dean

Guest


And you're biased against them jerk. Square.

AUTHOR

2017-10-02T02:15:14+00:00

Scott Pryde

Expert


Thanks for that Albo! Been a fun season. Can't wait to do it all again in five months time - although we have the World Cup, summer of cricket, tennis and Bathurst first. It never stops really. Great sum up as well. Both of these sides will be here next year, and yep, what a season Felise Kaufusi has had. Full deserved his grand final meat pie to go with a ring. The guy has come a long way in the last 12 months.

AUTHOR

2017-10-02T02:13:10+00:00

Scott Pryde

Expert


Yeah... Right. No.

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