Alan Jones' head-to-head with Michael Cheika worth the admission alone

By David Lord / Expert

When the Barbarians take on the Wallabies at Allianz on October 28, rival coaches Alan Jones and Michael Cheika will bring together two of the most competitive people on the planet.

But they are a generation apart, plus vastly different backgrounds and eras.

Jones is 76 with a tennis background as a junior Davis Cupper until an ongoing back problem scuppered that career, while Cheika’s 50 with rugby always to the fore from an early age.

Jones, among other endeavours. was a school teacher then a speech writer for Prime Minister Malcolm Fraser before embarking on a hugely successful radio career that has stamped him among the icons of the industry.

Not to be outdone, Cheika started a fashion house Live Fashion that has become a multi-million dollar organisation.

Jones has always been eloquent, and without peer as an after-dinner speaker with no notes, everything off the cuff.

But Cheika is the linguist speaking fluent French, Italian, and Arabic.

In short, both have been very successful off the rugby pitch, but come October 28, it’s all about rugby.

And winning.

Jones’ first senior appointment was at Manly in 1983, taking the seaside club to their first Shute Shield in 32 years. I called that game against Randwick at the old Sydney Sports Ground with Norman Tasker where Mark Ella’s left foot drop goal attempt from the junction of the halfway and touchline shaved the left hand upright in the dying seconds that would have pinched the grand final.

That wasn’t to be and Jones’ rugby coaching status changed dramatically with his appointment as Wallaby coach in 1984.

For the next three years, the Wallabies were brilliant winning Australia’s only Grand Slam beating England 19-3, Ireland 16-9, Wales 28-9, and Scotland 37-12.

Mark Ella set his record of a try in each game, the Wallabies scored 12 tries to one from Wales, and posted 100 points to just 33 – they were dminant and magic to watch.

Jones also added the Bledisloe in 1985, before his new broadcasting career took over in those amateur days, and Bobby Dwyer regained the Wallaby job.

Cheika won his first rugby premiership as a coach with Randwick 21 years after Jones, and went on to become the only one to win major premierships in both hemispheres with Leinster at the Henekin Cup in 2009, and the Waratahs first Super Rugby title in 2014, ending a 19-year drought.

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Cheika became Wallaby coach in 2014 following Ewen McKenzie’s shock resignation, and went on win the Rugby Championship in 2015 and take the Wallabies to the Rugby World Cup final later in the year, finishing as World Rugby’s coach of the year.

Both mighty impressive CVs.

The big difference so far are their career stats with Alan Jones winning 21 of his 31 Tests for a win percentage of 68, second only to Rod Macqueen’s 34 wins from 43 for a 79 per cent winning rate.

So far Michael Cheika’s stats are only eighth on the Wallaby coaching pecking order with 20 wins from 39 and a 51 per cent winning rate.

But October 28 won’t be any social event, even though it’s a week after the Wallabies play the All Blacks at Suncorp. and the week before the Wallabies set off on their annual end of year tour that will start with an historic Test against Japan in Japan.

For mine both Jones and Cheika have similar bottom lines of their teams running the ball, and entertaining.

Jones achieved all that 34 years ago, Cheika’s still trying to get the message across to his troops who are a bit slow on the uptake.

But they come from different directions.

Jones is more the brilliant motivator, Cheika is simply the coach who preaches Randwick rugby.

Jones has shown he means business by naming Quade Cooper as his Barbarian skipper, and promising to pick other unwanted Wallabies in a mixture with overseas stars.

It will be interesting to see how Cheika treats the game and who among the Wallabies will be rested.

Whatever the player outcome, the television channel or channels covering the game will need a camera apiece on Alan Jones, and Michael Cheika.

Remember they are two of the most competitive people on the planet, and television footage will prove that,

Bring it on.

The Crowd Says:

2017-10-08T04:40:53+00:00

Cuw

Guest


doubt those names will be released by their Aviva clubs. Horwill is injured this week and sat out the Quins match. one of the biggest issues now for Ba bas is that clubs have no obligation to release players. and this is the middle of Aviava Top 14 etc. to complicate matters Aviva has had a spate of injures in just 5 weeks. Wasps already have almost one full team injured !!!

2017-10-07T22:32:12+00:00

Mike Huber

Roar Pro


PeterK Oh dear , " quite articulate" ! I gather you are from the school of hard knocks synonymous with , " l luvs youse alls ".....

2017-10-07T21:31:51+00:00

Ian

Guest


Delusional

2017-10-07T07:39:26+00:00

Milan

Guest


What are you on about again Bakkies for goodness sake man

2017-10-07T07:31:17+00:00

gatesy

Roar Guru


Any room for the Honey Badger in all of this?

2017-10-07T05:33:18+00:00

Bakkies

Guest


4 points for a try back then.

2017-10-07T03:36:42+00:00

PiratesRugby

Guest


It will be hard to know who to cheer against.

2017-10-07T01:59:19+00:00

Drongo

Guest


Quade will make him look very average if they both play.

2017-10-07T00:47:02+00:00

Sage

Guest


So the parrot is therefore the head of the "dirt trackers". Hmmm

2017-10-06T22:55:22+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


or Jones feeding the chooks in toilet blocks in London

2017-10-06T22:49:04+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


I think so too, I think will give all the wallabies in his squad who have had little time a run in his team

2017-10-06T22:48:02+00:00

PeterK

Roar Guru


he may be a bogan however he is quite articulate, basically looks are deceptive in this case

2017-10-06T22:18:41+00:00

Fionn

Guest


Moore's farewell games should have been in June, if he needed any at all. Every test agains the All Blacks is an important Test. Any Test against South Africa is an important Test, especially those in the highveld. Any Test that will determine our placing in the RC is an important Test, especially in a year when we are struggling for any wins. I'm not saying that we would have won last week were it not for Moore (he actually played pretty well), but he didn't bring the impact that a Uelese or Latu would have brought. I don't think his form deserves playing this weekend or next weekend, despite the fact that he has been a great Wallaby and great servant of Australian sport.

2017-10-06T22:16:39+00:00

Peter

Guest


Actually, in 1984: 3 points: try, penalty, drop. 2points: conversion. The multiples of 3 were penalties apart from the one Welsh try.

2017-10-06T22:15:17+00:00

Fionn

Guest


Mate, we lost to Scotland at home, failed to beat what is probably the worst Springbok side of all time (aside from the 2016 iteration of Coetzee's team), struggled to beat Italy and lost 3-0 to England at home. The only tier 1 team we have beaten this year is Argentina a single time.

2017-10-06T22:04:13+00:00

Fionn

Guest


'They are invariably wrong as well.' Yep, they've been really wrong on Mumm, Hanigan and on the idea that Cheika's strategies wouldn't lead to fantastic results.

2017-10-06T14:55:49+00:00

Illya Kuryakin

Guest


Krusty has to be careful how he handles this. He could very well be playing this game off a loss in Argentina. If he rests too many 1st XV players and digs into the local Barbarian talent pool the parrot will squawk until 2GB melts down. If he loses he will look like a bigger dill than normal. This is a very interesting prospect, bring it on!

2017-10-06T14:34:51+00:00

Illya Kuryakin

Guest


At least there's a chance Speight will hit a few rucks.

2017-10-06T13:35:35+00:00

In brief

Guest


Are you kidding? Cheika's wallabies are playing the modern multi faceted game against the best teams in the world and are performing pretty darn well.

2017-10-06T13:29:32+00:00

In brief

Guest


The whinging vitriolic windbags on The Roar are not fans and deserve no recognition. They are invariably wrong as well.

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