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This week we have had a massive example of people taking sides.
A few days ago, I was cleaning out my books in readiness for a garage sale, because we are moving and downsizing to live in an apartment.
I was reading The Roar tonight and I couldn’t help thinking that the content is a lot richer this year, than in previous years.
Tonight was one of those nights when I got some nice thinking time in.
Michael Cheika is copping a lot of flak at the moment, and I thought I would chuck my two bobs’ worth in as a former amateur lower grades, women’s and junior schoolboys coach.
Rugby is, among many other things, fun. But it is always more fun when you are a part of a team.
At most levels of rugby, nobody goes out onto the paddock to be a thug. The sorts of offences that warrant a red card are more often to do with a brain snap or bad timing. Rarely, if ever, is it willful and the offending player is immediately contrite and apologetic.
The poor crowd last week at Bruce Stadium was not down to the weather. They didn’t all go skiing. They just stayed away.
If I had been able to catch up with Brad Thorn over the weekend, say, in a restaurant in Brisbane, I would have said something like, “Brad, I’ve been a Brumbies fan since day one, but I have never seen them play as badly as they did on Friday night”.
South Africa rugby is trialling a bunch of new laws in the Currie Cup this year to speed up and simplify the breakdown.
I just read a post on The Roar that talked about former internationals making good coaches.
The success of Super Rugby depends on (1) evolution and (2) tribalism.
The golden era of Australian rugby was the 1980s and early ’90s, regularly beating the best teams and producing some of the most exciting players the world has seen.
Why does the so-called ‘rugby establishment’ of Sydney and Brisbane have this sense of entitlement that automatically relegates the Brumbies, Rebels and Force to the group that should lose one of its members?
It’s time for a rant, Roarers. I haven’t done this for a while, as I do like to pick my targets.
I keep seeing these YouTube videos where American blokes provide their reactions to great rugby tries.
I saw a great quote yesterday – The All Blacks have never won a Rugby World Cup outside of Auckland!
This whole bonus point thing at Rugby World Cup is a worry. It was always going to happen, whether or not the Northern Hemisphere was originally opposed to it.
I know that there is a World Cup on, it’s finals time in the other codes, the Wallabies are out of sight out of mind in the UK, the rugby journos are all probably sorting out their digs and their watering holes in London.
You forgot to ask Alan one important question. Did he ever get his trousers back?
How would a Folau legal challenge affect RA?
Great to see him back. Would have preferred he came back to the Brums, but we seem to be doing it pretty well with the current cattle. Interesting competition for spots in the midfield coming up.
Toomua makes early move to Rebels
The trick is not to be a Christian, but an atheist..
seen today on a headstone: ..”here lies an atheist, all dressed up and nowhere to go..”
Israel Folau found guilty of code of conduct breach, sanction undecided
Hopefully, as Author, I am going to get the right of final reply.
if you don’t want to burn in hell, consider this..
Today I saw a headstone – it said:..”
“here lies the body of an atheist..
all dressed up in his best suit,
and nowhere to go…”
Therein lies the answer.
No one person is bigger than the game
Wow, never thought I’d see a post of that majesty on the Roar! We really are an interesting bunch!
No one person is bigger than the game
If he wants to put himself about as a radical preacher, then in my book, he can scream his beliefs from the rooftops, but as a role model for kids, and under a remit to RA, he should temper his words, and let’s face it where is the Christian value in breaking a solemn undertaking? Like I said, no player is bigger than the game.
Yes, his views are to be respected, but so are those of his employer – “etiquette” was the word in a post higher up, and I think that that hits the nail on head.
No one person is bigger than the game
No, I don’t – one of the contributors above, referred to “etiquette” – an excellent description and encapsulation of what we are all circling around.
No one person is bigger than the game
Sounds like a reasonable basis for Terms of Settlement. From the little I have seen of the tribunal hearing, that would appear to be the way it is being run, not necessarily the way it is panning out.
However, you are proposing terms and conditions as to how IF can practise his religion – do you really want to go there and open that can of worms?
No one person is bigger than the game
How tedious.
I don’t want to read Ephesians, or any other passage of the bible, particularly the old testament – this was not an article about preaching, it was about choosing your words .. I’d like to suggest that you take that on board and don’t just spout scripture at me. You can twist the Old Testament in a million ways, and most of the time people who do that are bereft of original thought.
It’s a bit like saying to your team before they run out, to “think their way through the game..”
You have to consciously think your way through life, not just live it according to someone else’s rote learning or twisted writing.
No one person is bigger than the game
..yet another odd, selective comment – taken out of context, and not much academic merit, at that.
No one person is bigger than the game
Spot on Sheek – I suppose that my rant may have turned into more of a ramble, because my original theme was that no player is bigger than the game .. which, of course no one argues with, so if I had just stuck to that there may well not have been as many comments!
However, I’m not necessarily agreeing that RA did the wrong thing – he has done this once before and apparently gave an undertaking which he then broke – I’d say RA was put between a rock and a hard place. Not a situation of their making, so as we Roarers all know, they would be damned if they did nothing and damned if they did anything.
Rugby, because of its amateur roots and amateur history is a game where every fan considers himself or herself as a stakeholder. We’d all love to be flies on the wall in the inner sanctum.
We’ve got cameras in dressing rooms, these days, coaches and refs miked up, ref cams etc – the last bastion of privacy has to be RA HQ.
No one person is bigger than the game
It’s not about what you find offensive – it’s a very subjective standard.
No one person is bigger than the game
Andy F – let me summarise the article in a simple way. We have right to our beliefs, whatever they are – we do not necessarily have a right to espouse them in a scatter gun way without any thought for the consequences – his comments didn’t bother me one bit, and maybe I will burn in hell – who knows, but there are some out there who may really be affected, and one person should not necessarily use a position of influence to worry or hurt others.
No one person is bigger than the game
Michael Jones didn’t tell everyone else that they couldn’t play on Sunday. Just quietly stood up for his own belief. That is the difference.
No one person is bigger than the game
If Izzy had overlooked gays etc and left trem out of his misguided rant, then we drunkards, cads, bounders, gamblers, idolators, adulterers, atheists et al would have probably just sniggered knowingly, passed over it and got on with placing our bets, or having our next argument about who should be the Wallabies number 10. He didn’t hit that many nerves, just the most sensitive ones.
Israel, Gazza and the controversy
… except that he will then be known in the press as …”…disgraced former Rugby star ..
Rugby union would be a more inclusive, kinder place without Israel Folau and his backwards views
Gloria, the point made by the author was a good one – any of us can say whatever we like whenever we like, but you then have to be responsible for the consequences and the ramifications
Rugby union would be a more inclusive, kinder place without Israel Folau and his backwards views
Lordy,
I am also hoping that Deegan from the Force at least makes the extended squad – could be a bolter!
Isi Naisarani is three days away from Wallaby qualification
Don’t forget Deegan from the Force, could also be added to the mix, as he is a very inventive and enterprising number 10, plus that winger, the young guy? Molloy?
Is the next Wallabies golden generation just around the corner?
Unarguably good logic, Fionn, Quade is an X-factor player, so while all of your well researched stats put this in clear perspective, it is a fact that he excels when has his backline in motion around him.
He does not like a stagnant backline that is being held back by a non-dominant forward platform – neither does Genia, and those two stand out when they have go forward ball, and their outside backs become the beneficiaries.
He is not a Larkham or a Lynagh, more like a Knox or an Ella, though those guys tended to work off brilliant set plays.
He is Quade, he is his own man and he is truly Queensland’s loss.
He can concoct somethings from nothings, which is what we rugby tragics live for, having to watch so much of any game where the referee is the central character. As fans, we live off moments of brilliance and we eagerly await them.
Give me an unpredictable Quade over a safe Bernard every day of the week.
The price that he paid was that, until 2011 he had never had an injury, and I remember thinking a couple of times before it, when his pivoting and swerving were ridiculous, that he will overdo it one day. When he did, it was catastrophic and it took him a long time to regain his natural confidence.
He may never get that brilliant instinctive step or swerve back, but he has compensated and that beautiful little inside ball to Maddocks two weeks ago, show that he still has the instinct and the vision to read where the holes are. I was very optimistic in 2015 that we would sneak up and take on the world in the RWC and I am starting to feel that feeling again.
It is time to give Quade Cooper a fair go
If ever there was a demonstration of the importance of having independent selectors, this season is beginning to prove it. Some of the form players would not even be on Michael Cheika’s radar. Cooper, Meakes, McCaffery, Hunt, to name just a handful.
Let’s hope that Scott Johnson and Michael OÇonnor get stuck straight in over the next couple of weeks.
How will Michael Cheika solve the talent versus toughness equation?
Bottom line – no person is bigger than the game – simples!!
How would a Folau legal challenge affect RA?