Five reasons why the Roosters won't be over the cap in 2018

By The Barry / Roar Guru

Let me make something clear from the outset. It feels absurd to be defending the Roosters.

As a Bulldogs fan that grew up, went to school and played junior league in the Eastern Suburbs I’ve always had a special bit of enmity for the red, white and blue-sters.

The Bulldogs played the Roosters in the first grand final I fully remember watching in 1980. I felt like the lone Bulldog supporter in the East as grand final fever gripped the suburbs.

The rivalry peaked in the early 2000s when the Roosters won the comp that the Bulldogs ‘should’ have won if not for their flagrant rorting of the 2002 salary cap.

Then there were the ‘grand final that should have been’ games through 2003. The Dogs got the early points in round nine with Brent Sherwin masterfully setting up the match winner for Matt Utai. The Roosters won the biggest game that season though defeating the Dogs 28-18 in the preliminary final.

The Dogs got their revenge in the 2004 grand final, which had a particularly ferocious build up.

Then in the mid 2000s the Roosters plundered the Bulldogs line-up signing premiership winners Willie Mason, Braith Anasta, Mark O’Meley and future Origin and test star Nate Myles in quick succession.

The point is, I’m not an apologist for the Roosters. They’re a team that I fluctuate between loving to hate and just hating.

As footy fans we all lead with our heart but even allowing for that there’s a hell of a lot of innuendo and invective (much of it factually incorrect) floating around at the moment that’s becoming a self fulfilling feeding frenzy that the Roosters are destroying the 2018 salary cap.

So I’m gritting my teeth, putting 37 years of rivalry aside and coming up with five reasons why I don’t think the Roosters are over the cap in 2018.

1. The cap has increased by $2.4M
The salary cap has increased from $7M in 2017 to $9.4M in 2018. The 2018 base salary cap will be $9.1M with a $100K car allowance and a $200K veteran/development player allowance.

Basically, that’s Cooper Cronk and James Tedesco right there, with change.

It’s not that simple, of course as clubs have been anticipating a big increase and have been back ending contracts and building salary increases to reflect the cap into contracts.

We do know that some clubs (looking at you Bulldogs) have handled this process poorly. Is there a chance, just a chance that the Roosters have seen this coming and managed the situation well, rather than just resorting to cheating?

Either way a $2.4M increase in the salary cap is by far the largest increase in the NRL’s history. To put it In perspective the last time the cap increased by $2.4M took five years from 2012 ($4.4M) to 2017 ($7M).

Prior to 2012 it took 14 years for the cap to increase by $1.15M from $3.25M in 1998.
This is a gigantic leap forward in player spend and it’s not surprising to me that there are clubs that have money to spend on players and not surprising at all that one of those clubs is arguably the most professionally run rugby league club in the country.

2. The players they’ve let go
I read the other day that the Roosters had “swapped Kenny-Dowall and Pearce for Tedesco and Cronk, how is that fair?” Of course it wouldn’t be but it’s just not true.

Among the players the Roosters have let go for 2018 are 21-Test player Shaun Kenny-Dowall, NSW’s most capped Origin halfback Mitchell Pearce, Test and ten Origin player Aiden Guerra, former Origin player Michael Gordon, rising star Connor Watson and experienced forward Kane Evans.

I’ve deliberately talked up their CVs to suit my argument. None of the veterans are at the top of their game but they would all have still been on decent money as part of their most recent contracts. No doubt Pearce would still have been on very good money. That’s six top 17 regulars released in one season.

That’s a massive turnover. I’d estimate the combined minimum these players would be receiving would be $2M.

(Photo by Mark Metcalfe/Getty Images)

The Roosters have also let Liam Knight and Paul Carter leave the club, although neither of those guys will be troubling the accountants.

When you put this $2M on top of the $2.4M salary cap increase, I don’t understand why people are so immediate to jump to rorting to explain the signatures of Tedesco and Cronk.

The Roosters other signings for 2018 are Joshua Curran, Dean Matterson and Reece Robinson.

3. The rest of the Roosters squad
There’s a lot of focus on the top end of the Roosters squad – not so much on the other end. The Roosters have a lot of big names at the big end but they have a long tail too.

Among the Cronks, Tedescos, Friends, Cordners and JWHs is a long list of players either yet to play NRL or yet to establish themselves.

Among the Roosters top 30 squad for next year are Nat Butcher, Lindsay Collins, Mitch Cornish, Poasa Faamausili, Brendan Frei, Grant Garvey, Joseph Manu, Dean Matterson, Paul Momirovski, Sean O’Sullivan, Victor Radley and Chris Smith.

That’s a lot of players in a 30 man squad with minimal experience and more importantly soaking up minimal salary cap spend. Most of those players will be on the NRL minimum of $120,000.

After releasing the players listed above, the experience level in the Roosters squad drops off steeply outside the top 17 players. Even a normal distribution of injuries, suspensions and rep duties will see the Roosters fielding a lot of rookies.

If they have an injury crisis, they will be leaning heavily on untested players.

4. Angus Crichton hasn’t signed on until 2019
“This is getting ridiculous how can they sign Tedesco, Cronk and now Crichton and still be under the cap?”

That was something else I read this week but again it’s completely non-factual and emotional. At this stage Crichton won’t be playing for the Roosters until 2019. He just doesn’t come into consideration for the 2018 cap.

Here’s the kicker though…given all of the above, if Souths make the mad decision to release Crichton I wouldn’t be at all surprised if the Roosters had room to fit him into their 2018 cap, possibly on a back ended deal.

5. The Roosters do good business
Love them or hate them, you can’t deny the Roosters are one of the most professionally run sporting organisations in the country. They went through some tough times from the mid 80s to the mid 90s. Since then, they’ve been one of the most consistent and successful teams in the competition. That doesn’t happen by accident.

I always think the mark of a good club is how they cope with hard times. Poorly run clubs go into a 20 year tail spin and complain about TPAs, free-to-airs, junior concessions, scheduling, etc, etc and point the finger at anyone or anything in range as to why they’ve gone down the gurgler, simultaneously lurching from one disaster to the next.

(Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Then there are clubs who when they are down, close ranks, keep quiet and make the hard decisions. For these clubs tough times don’t tend to last more than a season or two. The Roosters are definitely in the latter group.

Other clubs fans like to speak of Uncle Nick and his mythical brown paper bags, but he’s a long standing successful businessman inside and outside of sport. He’s set up a club that attracts high profile, successful businessmen to it.

How many ex-players do you see running the Roosters on the basis that they’re favourite sons? Not many. The Roosters get players to play and businessmen to do business. The rest of us point to their success and say “they’ve got to be cheating…”

It’s poor sportsmanship to the point of grubbiness.

Having said all of the above…who really knows? When the Storm got busted it was only hindsight that made it obvious. At the time, the narrative was about how many quality players the Storm were shedding year on year to stay under the cap.

No one saw the Bulldogs cap scandal coming.

But on balance I think there’s far more evidence that the Roosters are under the cap for 2018 than smashing it to pieces as the common narrative would have us believe.

The Crowd Says:

2018-01-01T05:06:05+00:00

Rooster Coyote

Roar Rookie


Roosters overall recruitment is very strong including a first class development program for talented youngsters from many Country areas across NSW & Qld. Most recently an affiliation with Central Coast Rugby League to work together on junior development. Fact is along with the Storm, since 2010 Roosters have the highest ratio of players within the top 25 squad who have come through their internal pathways & made their first grade debut with the club. Roosters supporter base is growing, may not be the biggest but the club always strives to be the best. Noting our traditional heartland has over time been swamped with an AFL supported Swans, Sydney FC, & Waratahs. We are doing very well under the circumstances.Congrats on an insightful article.

2017-12-31T23:20:45+00:00

Nayfo

Guest


Girdler?

2017-12-29T09:50:11+00:00

Steve

Guest


Good article. Easts have lost many good players in Guerra,SKD,Pearce,Gordon,Watson not too mention others like Nikorema and the cap has gone up another $2m.. very easy to workout they wouldn’t be close to salary cap limit.

2017-12-23T04:32:33+00:00

Greg Ambrose

Guest


It could be a sheep inspired notion that the Roosters are rorters but there could be a bit more to it. Since the cap was introduced in 1990 it is remarkable how the Roosters stand alone ( off the top of my head ) in landing big fish. The flashing red light I believe is not the comparison of the Roosters rosters but the ease by which the Roosters land the biggest fish. That was the alarm bell ringing with the Storm but it was them landing the big young fish so easily. The Storm advantage wasn't so obvious to the public. Can any club claim to have recruited established stars or almost certain future stars of the calibre of Fittler, Morley, Girdler, Wing, Fitzgibbon, Justin Hodges,S.B.W ,Cronk, Tedesco and Chrighton and the rest over the salary cap years? Manly's biggest signing over that period are possibly Jamie Lyon, Matt Orford , Brent Kite and Ian Roberts? The Sharks are a totally different story as they pieced together a title with discards , wild cards and aging Warriors largely. None of the other teams sign stars at will like the Roosters. Once again this proves absolutely nothing but it does create comment and a lot of that comment is possibly unfair.

AUTHOR

2017-12-23T02:25:55+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


That’s a really fair stance Greg. I could very well end up with egg all over my face because as you say, no one sees it coming. I don’t get why the Roosters cop it so hard. There seems to be a sheep element to it. I reckon 95% if media articles and social media comments about teams being over the cap are about the Roosters. Compare their roster to the Sharks, Storm, Cowboys and Broncos. The Roosters squad isn’t so much better that they warrant so much attention in comparison.

2017-12-23T00:04:35+00:00

Bunney

Roar Rookie


Feel the burn

2017-12-22T22:21:52+00:00

ChristopherGrant

Guest


Don't forget the 400k cleared by the release of Nikorima..

2017-12-22T21:41:39+00:00

Greg Ambrose

Guest


On a broader note. If you do suspect a sporting team or individual is cheating without one shred of evidence are you grubby if you express these views? Lance Armstrong, Rodney Howe, Chinese swimmers , East German athletes, Russian winter Olympians? If someone expressed a view that the Storm were cheating the cap back in the day were they howled down? I don't know either way with the Roosters but despite this fine article explaining how they are within the cap my nagging instinct isn't 100% convinced. Having both SOO half backs on your books at one stage. Signing the best talent 'at will" ( as quoted by a fan ) , plucking SBW out of the sky who somehow had all sorts of loyalty to Politis but not to the club he should have been loyal to , the Dogs. I have no evidence but I reserve the right to be a little bit skeptical.

2017-12-22T21:20:12+00:00

Tim

Guest


And theyve just let Jayden Nikorima go as well ! Another $400k !!

AUTHOR

2017-12-22T19:28:37+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Before you start calling people stoopid you should really learn what you’re talking about. Clubs can introduce third party sponsors to players and their managers. It’s from that point that the club can’t be involved and can’t guarantee the amounts. So clubs have a significant role in sourcing TPAs for their players. So, we’ve established early you don’t really know entry level details about this issue, The clubs have to add five players to their NRL squads. The new minimum salary is 120K. So that means expanding the squad to 30 costs a whopping 600K. And that applies to every club. Of course it’s offset by a 2.4M increase in the cap. I didn’t factor big money for Watson. I didn’t even include Nikorima. All I said was that 2M for six of the players they were releasing was a conservative estimate. The numbers work so easily here that you embarrass yourself by insisting they have to be rorting the cap. The Roosters have released Pearce, SKD, Guerra, Gordon, Watson, Evans, Nikorima, Knight and Carter. Say they only freed up 2M of cap space (for NINE players - a ridiculously low estimate but let’s go with it). That gives the Roosters the 2.4M cap increase plus 2M = $4.4M to spend. Factor in 1M each for Cronk and Tedesco (not allowing any of that to be made up of TPAs). Leaves them with 2.4M. They spend 600K expanding their squad to 30. Leaves them with 1.8M to sign seven players to replace the other players they released. That’s an average of 257K per player. These numbers are assuming minimum value for the players they’ve released. Maximum value for the players they’ve signed and no TPA contributions. And they still work quite comfortably. Finally, have a look at their 30 man squad. It’s not an exceptionally strong squad that screams salary cap rort. They’ve got some stars at the top end but 13 players with no or minimal NRL experience. Their squad as a whole is no stronger than several other NRL teams who don’t attract any attention for being over the cap. You mention the media not wanting to report about the Roosters. Do you live under a rock? There’s almost daily reports about the Roosters and their salary cap. What do you think inspired my article. Yours is a great response. It sort of helps prove my point. You don’t know the rules around how TPAs actually work (although happy enough to call other people stoopid through your ignorance). You ignore the value of the players the Roosters have released, you ignore the value of the squad as a whole. But bang on about the Roosters being over the cap (fine, if that’s your opinion) and guaranteeing third party deals (no evidence at all). Ignorant, uninformed, opinionated. Brilliant mix.

2017-12-22T15:02:06+00:00

brad

Guest


That was good for a laugh. Funny how roosters always seem to get positive press. Few things your article conveniently misses. The increase of minimum wage as well as the increase in squad size. You quote figures explaining the 2million for Cronk and tedesco the 2 most in demand players of past few years. You do so by stating cap rise but neglect to count the need for replacing those players and more players in as larger squads this year. That's not to mention upgraded deals. Also you didn't explain why every player who leaves roosters is on good money. Only those on small deals stay cause if nikorima was on over 300K we are meant believe lateral Mitchell one of most hyped juniors in game is on 150K as per media explanation that roosters under cap. Conor Watson was prob also on nikorima money freeing up another couple hundred K according to your sums. You also don't mention recent signings such of keary which was once again one of most in demand players the year he signed. But that's OK cause RTS and even SBW leaving is reported in every media story about roosters cap I read recently. Further are we to believe despite winning number of minor premierships and being contenders most years players are happy to go without pay rises to stay at roosters while other clubs offer plenty more $$. There been number roosters such at liu, Napa, takiako and latrell Mitchell who surely been upgraded after couple years of solid performances. Boyd cordner as well as Ferguson are also current internationals and improving year by year. Yet there contract value never seems to grow. There was recently media interest in parra signing Hayne on unders yet the roosters signed the 3 most in demand played of the year in Cronk, telescope and chrighton. All were offered over a million dollars elsewhere so just how much are they on the cap for at the roosters. Finally and most telling while discussing TPAs and replying to posts, you comment that it not roosters fault other clubs can't organise legal tpas. Clubs are not allowed to be involved at all so your comment is stupid. Everyone knows uncle Nick has list of friends paying tpas yet Manly currently in trouble as club organised the TPA. As is penrith on the keno tpa for Maloney. Everyone knows the system is rotten. If roosters are above board and not guaranteeing TPAs, why then are players signing on massive unders on the cap with roosters. And why don't media report facts instead trying sell the myth of roosters cap management is superior and all above board. They have extra money guaranteed by the club but Greenberg afraid of uncle Nick and his business contacts as he knows he won't be in charge of nrl much longer .

2017-12-22T11:46:53+00:00

Danno1

Guest


Really good article TB, as usual well reasoned (through gritted teeth...those damn Roosters). I remember the 1980 GF very well. Favourite part was Chris Mortimer waiting until he won a penalty from Hartley for a bit of Royce Ayliffe nonsense, then thumping Royce in the head, he was a tough kid and a thinker even then. Ahhh well.... hopefully the Dogs and Roosters can show some more flair in 2018 after this dour year.

2017-12-22T10:54:40+00:00

Roy

Guest


4 premierships in 42 years, throw in 8 grand finals and 8 minor premierships plus 3 WCCs a 7s title and a 9s title but apart from that we've been largely unsuccessful.

2017-12-22T10:00:06+00:00

Johnybulldog

Guest


Amen Baz!

AUTHOR

2017-12-22T09:44:34+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Fair point. I’m not quoting numbers really. I definitely think 2M for the eight players they released is super conservative and everyone is getting the 2.4 increase.

2017-12-22T06:40:36+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


For sure. Top 4 would be just meeting the season KPI, GF is the expectation. Robinson, like any player, knows the deal although good coaches are like hens teeth depending on renewal time. Or mutually agree to parts ways when someone better becomes available. Do you reckon Des will get paid out in full?

2017-12-22T06:14:47+00:00

Nat

Roar Guru


As opposed too?

2017-12-22T05:55:13+00:00

Big Daddy

Guest


The big club's do get looked after. On top of the stadiums fiasco the nsw government have funded NRL club's 50 million to build centres of excellence in nsw. There has to be hundreds of city and country clubs s who don't even have a canteen yet NRL sit on their thumbs and do nothing

2017-12-22T05:04:04+00:00

Larry1950

Guest


Excellently written TB, I look forward to your follow up article on the Broncos being well under the cap & having plenty of room for a decent forward leader and a Wendell Sailor like English winger. Surely with the number of no-names and journeymen in the Broncos pack, they'd have to be well under the cap, and might get further under by the sound of Sam Thaiday who seems to be talking like a retiree already.

2017-12-22T04:38:41+00:00

not so super

Guest


successful brand? 2 premierships in 40 years, a lack of supporters etc

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