Which teams aren't good enough to hate?

By Jeremy Brown / Roar Pro

Sporting rivalries are a funny thing. Everyone has that mate or that team they just can’t stand to lose to. At anything. Ever.

Anyone but them.

There can be a myriad of reasons, ranging from that match in primary school when they called a ball in that was clearly out, the over-the-top celebrations, the apparent ease with which they play the game, or perhaps just that you always need to be top dog. Maybe you just don’t like their face.

Whatever the reason, once that need to succeed against them is ingrained, it’s hard to let go. It becomes almost irrational.

Take the Australian cricket team. I can’t stand them. Loathe them. Names like David Warner, Brad Haddin, Mitchell Starc, Shane Watson and Glenn ‘the big show’ Maxwell just make me want to puke.

I don’t like their attitudes on the pitch, I don’t like their attitudes off the pitch and I don’t like the way they look.

The possible exceptions are Adam Gilchrist and Mike Hussey – two purists of the game among a canary yellow sea of petulant children.

(AAP Image/Tracey Nearmy)

Like most people who reside outside Australia, I’ve been enjoying the English ODI performances. Battered and bruised after a tough Ashes series, the Poms have meted out a few hidings of their own.

It’s nice to see the usual Australian swagger being replaced with a wobble, even if only for a little while. Is that uncertainty creeping into selections and performances?

I accept that these may be just my feelings toward Australian cricketers and I acknowledge that deep down in my core I am a petty, bitter little man. But I suspect many Kiwis may feel the same way.

I’ve lived in Australia and know that this strength of feeling is not necessarily reciprocated.

Historically the Black Caps just haven’t been good enough to warrant the effort. Just more squeaky ranting from a little brother with a chip on his shoulder across the ditch – which is probably fair enough. We have to earn the right to be disrespected.

It’s how we feel about the Australian rugby team. At the moment they’re just not good enough to hate.

(AAP Image/Dave Hunt)

They won a game against the All Blacks last year and were the better side that day but, like the Black Caps, they just don’t have enough of those days to celebrate yet.

They remain a shadow of the teams that comprised champions like Jason Little, Tim Horan, George Gregan, Stephen Larkham, Stirling Mortlock, Phil Kearns or John Eales. Eales, a lord of the lineout who kicked like a giraffe but with the accuracy of an Olympic shooter. Now that was a team worth despising.

Where is the style and the innovation? Is this the same Australian side that popularised the quick lineout at the 1991 Rugby World Cup?

But I’d still happily support the Australian rugby side against England. The English are to rugby what the Australians are to cricket, except they’re not as good. Not even close.

And deep down in their national fibre knowing they invented the bloody game must grate a wee bit. No wonder they carry on with their songs and boasting about superior exchange rates et cetera.

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So who are the sides you love to hate? The ones you just want to see lose regardless of opposition? If you’re a league fan supporting your boys in the NRL, chances are it’s everyone else. That’s just the way league is played – or at the very least it’s any team featuring Paul Gallen or being coached by Ricky Stuart.

I doubt any league fan would say the Warriors. They fall into the same category as the Aussie rugby team and don’t warrant the emotional investment. Nobody really hates them – except possibly a guy I work with who has some sort of self-loathing love-hate relationship. He relishes their losses with a gleeful I-told-you-so look on his face but still watches every game angry and alone. You know who you are.

For every sledge, heckle or outright abuse hurled from the stands at the players and teams we love to see fail there are cheers of delight from their own supporters. I’ve even heard whispers that some people outside New Zealand don’t believe Sir Richie McCaw is a saint among men. But that can’t be true.

And let’s face it: great sportspeople aren’t always great people and you’d rather have the mongrel playing for your team. Don’t take the venom as an insult; more often than not it’s really a back-handed compliment.

“If we hate you, we rate you.”

The Crowd Says:

2018-02-03T11:20:52+00:00

Paul

Guest


Jeff, let's start with the Olympics the commonwealth games, your country plays against our club teams in basketball NRL and soccer and your teams are pathetic. I'd feel humiliated if my country couldn't beat club sides.

2018-02-03T10:22:07+00:00

Barrydewet

Guest


+1 Thems the truth

2018-02-03T10:06:24+00:00

David

Guest


Yeah bro, hate en zed, why do so many of them live anywhere else but their own country if it's so good...eh bro!

2018-02-02T04:31:36+00:00

wardad1

Roar Rookie


So tell me how much England give PI teams playing at Twickenham ?

2018-02-01T20:41:36+00:00

richard

Guest


Mako on Beausden Barrett in the Lions series.Or have you forgotten that. And I have never referred to Vunipola and Hartley as kiwis.

2018-02-01T11:24:03+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


'it used to be Australia but they have fallen from power to the point that when they do snag a win I sort of feel happy for them.' Very naughty, Piru. As I'm sure you know there is no better way to wind-up an Aussie than this.

2018-02-01T11:21:34+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


NZ is part of what's called the 'five eyes community'. This comprises the US, UK, Canada, Australia, and NZ. They have security clearance over sensitive intelligence that many members of NATO don't have (much to the fury of the French and Germans etc). There's no way that the US would stand by and watch NZ being invaded. The likelihood of it happening is another matter.

2018-02-01T11:18:22+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


'stand corrected, I thought we were dealing in dollarydoos 75 000 pounds would just about buy the entire ARU' It would certainly buy the ARU 'Strategy' department - but then again change from a pint would do that.

2018-02-01T10:21:25+00:00

wardad1

Roar Rookie


So I see that sadly the comments on this article is nothing but Kiwi bashing .

2018-02-01T08:46:30+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


I don’t like the All Blacks because they play dirty, get treated differently to other rugby teams and believe in some bizarre mythology that average Kiwis use as a pretence of cultural superiority. It's funny how the teams that routinely humiliate you play dirty and are treated differently by the refs isn't it? What's this bizarre mythology the All Blacks believe in? That's a new one

2018-02-01T08:43:37+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


FunBus I think the yanks would happily let whoever we're afraid of this week (is it North Korea) invade us and laugh away. I mean we don't have any oil AND we wouldn't let them dock their nuke subs/ships in our ports. Yes the NZ SAS often takes part in group efforts, but we have no real need of protection. Who is coming to take over NZ? We're a bigger danger to ourselves than anyone else.

2018-02-01T08:40:06+00:00

piru

Roar Rookie


I stand corrected, I thought we were dealing in dollarydoos 75 000 pounds would just about buy the entire ARU

2018-02-01T08:15:03+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


But Richard, you lot keep telling us Hartley and Vunipola are Kiwis. Although, what Vunipola's done to earn the 'thug' label, God knows.

2018-02-01T01:48:57+00:00

richard

Guest


Are you implying Owens played the pivotal role in those wins? In both the 2015/16 tests,the results were emphatic.Only the Dunedin test was close. I think you are seeing something that isn't there.

2018-02-01T00:19:25+00:00

ClarkeG

Guest


I'm hoping your son will have less issues than those you apparently have.

2018-02-01T00:10:33+00:00

richard

Guest


Thing is everyone has been predicting the " inevitable downfall' of NZ ever since the game went pro in 1996.And yet it hasn't happened.I have no doubt there will be dips in performance in the future,but I wouldn't count on them being prolonged. And a pom talking about "gutter thugs".Well,you would know,you hero worship grubs like Dallaglio,Grewcock and Johnson.And nowadays you could throw in the likes of Hartley and Vunipola.People in glass houses eh!

2018-02-01T00:03:50+00:00

hello

Guest


I agree FunBus it is a it does seem to be friendlier. I think it is the same in Aus with England they are the team I love to hate.

2018-01-31T22:51:19+00:00

JimmyB

Guest


RAF, must have been a bit salty for a while now?! ;)

2018-01-31T21:33:46+00:00

FunBus

Roar Rookie


I’m a pom, so it doesn’t bother me either way. Just thought I’d stick my nose in where it doesn’t belong.?

2018-01-31T12:48:32+00:00

englishbob

Guest


NZ rugby fans and media are great at getting over themselves aren't they. I'll revel in their inevitable downfall the same way they patronise everyone else. My son probably wont care either way

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