Nine reasons why I'm not on board with Justin Langer's appointment

By Stephen Vagg / Roar Guru

Justin Langer has been named the new coach of the Australian men’s cricket teams. But don’t pop the champagne just yet.

Here are ten reasons to be circumspect about this appointment.

1. The four-year term
Players don’t get this sort of security. Not many employees in the modern world do, but Langer does.

Four years is a long, long time.

2. One coach in charge of three formats
Cricket Australia had a great opportunity to shake this up, but no – we’re stuck with Langer in Tests, one-dayers and T20s.

Why?

Darren Lehmann struggled coaching all three formats – our international T20 side only performed well in one series, our ODI team has been shockingly weak since the World Cup, and our Test team has been poor overseas for over a decade.

Come to think of it, Mickey Arthur and Tim Nielsen weren’t too crash hot in handling all three formats, either.

It’s unrealistic to expect one coach to stay on top of things in the modern game. You’re going to get a sameness of ideas and players, and a dissipation of energy.

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3. He’s publicly pushed his favourites like a PR firm
Langer has lobbied his agenda with NRA-level skill. No coach can match him when it comes to generating positive publicity.

Remember at the start of last summer when he pushed for Cameron Bancroft to replace Matt Renshaw, and Shaun Marsh to replace (presumably) Glenn Maxwell? Next was a push for Mitchell Marsh over (presumably) Peter Handscomb for the third Test. And he asked selectors to show faith with Bancroft, as opposed to going back to Renshaw.

“So what?” you might ask. “He’s state coach. Shouldn’t he promote his players?”

No other coach is so relentless.

And I found the lobbying-by-media depressing, as I did the criticising-non-WA-players.

What made it even worse was that it worked – the selectors chucked Renshaw, Maxwell and Handscomb, then presumably wondered why Australia’s batting still kept collapsing in South Africa.

James Sutherland said Langer partly got the coaching job because “Western Australia has more nationally-contracted male players than any other state for 2018-19.” In part that’s because of Langer’s incessant lobbying. Cricket Australia’s media arm could learn a lot from him.

4. His spin to the press
Not all of them buy it, but there is a segment who swallow everything Langer says uncritically, trotting out the same narrative about him turning back Western Australia from the brink of destruction in 2012, the four daughters, the martial arts, the steely determination.

And the quotes. Oh dear God, the quotes.

And it’s depressing to read all these writers doing PR for Langer.

Having said that, I do think he’s going to find it a leap going from facing the mostly sympathetic Perth press to the more critical national media.

5. He’s bagged players in public
When Marcus Harris left WA Langer called him “mediocre with flashes of brilliance” in public.

His fans would argue that it was honest – I would counter it was just mean and depressing.

6. The No Asshole Rule
Langer keeps a book with this title displayed in his office.

“It is a reminder that we don’t want knobs in our organisation,” said Langer.

What’s a knob? Who gets to decides who is and isn’t a knob? Is there criteria? Is it Langer alone who decides? What if Langer is a knob? Does anyone tell him?

At state level, this isn’t as dangerous because players can always move to another state. But you can only play for one country.

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7. He seems to get angry a lot
Whether it’s about being called a brown-nosed gnome or being questioned on bundling or losing players for finals, or being sledged by the Barmy Army, or losing Craig Simmons from the Scorchers.

You might argue that everyone has bad days, but do you read about any other coaches consistently losing it?

His fans excuse this as ‘passion’.

This will make some post-defeat press conferences interesting.

8. Is his track record that awesome?
It’s pretty good at state level – WA have won a bunch of T20 and one-day titles under Langer, and made two Shield finals.

But they haven’t won the Sheffield Shield.

And none of the current WA players who made the Test team (or got back into the Test team) under Langer’s watch have locked down their spots – the Marshes (even them, even after all this time), Ashton Agar, Hilton Cartwright, Bancroft.

Going further back, Langer wasn’t that successful as Australia’s batting coach – the team would collapse all the time. Australia’s T20 team lost to Sri Lanka under him as coach in 2017.

He’s had successes, absolutely, I just think more careful scrutinising of his record wouldn’t go astray.

9. It shows Cricket Australia weren’t all that serious about cultural change
Many of us suspected as much after Pat Howard and James Sutherland kept their jobs, but it was still kind of a drag to have it confirmed.

They didn’t wait for the culture review to come through, they didn’t appoint a temporary coach, they gave a four-year-all-formats contract to a person who was already Darren Lehmann’s anointed successor and who seemed to have a lot of influence around the selection table.

And, just to ensure everything’s all smooth and seamless, Langer’s going to be part of the review process.

Langer works hard, was a great player, has had success in WA, talks a good game, and some players absolutely love him.

But I think the whole thing is going to end badly.

The Crowd Says:

2022-02-10T13:16:48+00:00

Rich

Guest


Sadly very prescient, particularly #7 which most commenters at the time seem to suggest as irrelevant.

2018-05-13T20:54:35+00:00

Duncan Smith

Roar Guru


You raise some fair and reasonable points. I laughed at the following, which could be applied to a few other people and organisations. “It is a reminder that we don’t want knobs in our organisation,” said Langer. What’s a knob? Who gets to decides who is and isn’t a knob? Is there criteria? Is it Langer alone who decides? What if Langer is a knob? Does anyone tell him?

AUTHOR

2018-05-13T11:12:00+00:00

Stephen Vagg

Roar Guru


I think it was a general brain fade. But considering the importance of this scandal for the reputation of Australian cricket, I find it weird that there hasn't been an official report issued for the public.

AUTHOR

2018-05-13T11:09:22+00:00

Stephen Vagg

Roar Guru


It's been the most destructive influence on the Australian team selection policy in my life time.

2018-05-12T14:20:45+00:00

JayG

Guest


I think the obsession with all-rounders still continues?

2018-05-12T14:17:49+00:00

JayG

Guest


From what I can make out, Warner came up with the idea and Bancroft executed it. I do not think it is even CA's content that Smith went along with it. He became aware that something was up ( maybe not the exact details of the cheating plan ) and chose not to intervene to put and end to it. I think Smith is doing the majority of his ban for the botched press conference in Cape Town. I believe he was trying to come clean during the conference - he was after all under no obligation to admit that a "leadership group" knew about the tampering. I am mystified, however, as to why they would lie there. They were already admitting to cheating. To my mind, there is no difference between using a sticky tape to do it or using sand paper - as per extant rules, the punishment would be the same, the degree of premeditation both indicate would be the same. I can think of nothing that would indicate that using sticky tape and not sandpaper would somehow mitigate the offense. When you are already crossing the big bridge of admitting that you indulged in behavior against the rules, why lie about the details??

AUTHOR

2018-05-12T13:08:17+00:00

Stephen Vagg

Roar Guru


I think two years is long enough to get an idea how things are going. After Australia won the Ashes 5-0 in 2013-14 people thought Lehmann was a genius but we got a more well rounded, accurate picture by the end of the Ashes 2015. Australia were strong at home and in the southern hemisphere, poor overseas, there was an obsession with all rounders that never really paid off. This continued up until sandpapergate.

AUTHOR

2018-05-12T13:07:30+00:00

Stephen Vagg

Roar Guru


I'm surprised why they didn't issue the report into what happened. (or have they and I just don't know?) We know some of the basics... it was Warner's idea Bancroft agreed and Smith went along with it... but not in any great detail. Would like to know whose idea it was to let Smith and Bancroft speak at a press conference and to let them lie at it.

2018-05-11T21:34:04+00:00

Bob Sims

Guest


Yeah, yeah, yeah, but quite simply he was the best candidate for the job. Be interesting to see what your attitude is after he's had two or three series in charge.

2018-05-11T15:30:08+00:00

Lara

Guest


We only see what we can see, bad behaviour, poor sportsmanship, childish behaviour, bad mouthing, cheating, Boof admitting he needs to change, Boof admitting that they may need to look at the way NZ play the game, Paine saying under his watch there will be no sledging....just a few minor tell tale signs....we only see what we can see.

2018-05-11T07:16:43+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


I will just repost this Just to be clear when I am talking about the national setup judging these players and coaches, I am thinking about how they look at internal stats and measurements, not just the final outcomes we see for their decisions. And to be really clear, I am not saying that I agree with their methods or picks. Some of their picks workout. Most don't. That is what you get when you build a system totally based on talent identification of 17 year old's.

2018-05-11T06:59:21+00:00

Mj

Guest


Agreed, they needed to bring in someone else if they were serious about a change in culture.

2018-05-11T06:55:18+00:00

Mj

Guest


Shaun Marsh has a batting average of 37. Mitch Marsh has a batting average of 28 & a bowling average of 42. Bancroft averages 30 with the bat. Do these numbers measure up with your expectation of talent management?

2018-05-11T06:39:54+00:00

Mj

Guest


I had more respect for JL the player than JL the coach who puts out press releases with the aim of removing existing test players. What does that say about JL's character?

2018-05-11T05:57:16+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


For the National team they will look at how they think he has managed the Marsh Bothers, Bancroft, all the bowling talent WA has. There are plenty of examples. Plus they would have seen how he fits into the national coaching set up during his time as a batting coaching. Compare that to Vic and what talent has come out of there recently. The national team is not happy with Maxwell, there is issues with Handscomb and his technique. None of the others like Ahmed have kicked on like I am guessing the National set up would like them too. Just to be clear when I am talking about the national setup judging these players and coaches, I am thinking about how they look at internal stats and measurements, not just the final outcomes we see for their decisions. And to be really clear, I am not saying that I agree with their methods or picks.

2018-05-11T05:44:51+00:00

Mj

Guest


Well said.

2018-05-11T05:37:59+00:00

Mj

Guest


Not disagreeing, but it's an empty point when you don't list examples of talent management.

2018-05-11T05:32:33+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


There is a massive failure of our cricket as a whole if we cannot find an Australian to coach the National Team.

2018-05-11T05:29:33+00:00

Mj

Guest


Agree with you, it seems there is an inner circle and the fear keeps people and opinions in line.

2018-05-11T04:39:39+00:00

Rellum

Roar Guru


Winning the Shield is not an important thing. It is about talent management.

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