Five hot takes from AFL Round 13

By Josh / Expert

AFL might not have taken centre stage this week with the World Cup and Wallabies drawing away some of the limelight, but there’s still plenty of interest to talk about. Here’s my five hot takes from the weekend.

Tenacious Tigers take back top spot
It was a close contest for the most part at the MCG on Sunday but it ended the way we have seen many Richmond games end this year – with the Tigers outlasting their opponents and running away with it in the end.

Geelong had the stronger start with four goals to one in the final term but Richmond were quick to respond in the second. There was just two points the difference in the game at half time, only one at the final break.

Goals from two returning players in Dustin Martin and Daniel Rioli as well as from Jack Riewoldt and Jason Castagna however gave Richmond and strong advantage in the final term and what looked like it could have gone down to the wire was in the end a fairly comfy win.

With West Coast having fallen short against Sydney on Friday night, this match gave Richmond the chance to reclaim top spot and they took it with gusto.

Of course, the Tigers have the bye next week while the Eagles have a game in hand – so they might not want to get too use to life at the top.

Still, I feel like this result cements once again the truth that most of us would prefer to just avoid: Richmond are flag favourites.

You can nitpick as much as you want and ask questions of their interstate record, but if they finish in the top two then it is not going to matter.

They haven’t lost a game at the MCG in nearly 12 months… who knows when they will again? Even if they don’t win interstate all year long, it might not hurt at all their chances of going back to back.

(Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Media/Getty Images)

A lesson the AFL can learn from the World Cup
I hope it won’t come as a controversial shock to those reading this column that I am not exactly the world’s most dedicated (association) football devotee.

Nothing wrong with it. Loved playing it in school. My best position was, well, the bench, but I still remember the day I scored three goals and broke my nose. Never found it exciting to watch, though.

AFL on the other hand I could watch until my eyes fell out and after that I would just turn on the radio – so it was to my own surprise that I found myself choosing the World Cup on Saturday night.

Look, there’s been a lot of talk this year about the quality of football and what changes could be made to improve it.

It’s not really my type of conversation because honest, I don’t feel anything needs to be changed. The game has evolved year after year and it will continue to do so.

I won’t deny that things have been a bit less watchable this year than they were in the past two – but I reckon that’s more due to an absence of close games than it is the style of play necesarilly.

Because the funny thing about watching last night’s World Cup games is that they reminded me exactly why it is that we all like sport – and it’s got nothing to do with starting positions or bigger goalsquares.

Instead it was the chance to be a part of a rare and engaging narrative as a side like Iceland, coming from a nation of 330,000 people and coached by a part-time dentist, manage to frustrate and deny one of the greatest players in the world, playing for one of the greatest football nations in the world.

One in ten Icelandic citizens is in Russia right now supporting their team at the real cup. What passion that is.

That’s the thing about sport – it’s like a movie, except it’s real. It’s unpredictable, it’s gritty, and it’s meaningful to us.

I guess that even if there were thrilling contests going on the AFL might battle to displace the Socceroos at a world cup occasionally clash schedules.

But what I would say to the AFL if they are looking for ways to improve the game is something I’ve said many times before. It is the passion of the fans which makes the game great – take good care of that as your first priority, and the rest will work itself out.

(Photo by Robbie Jay Barratt – AMA/Getty Images)

Carlton needs their ‘culture’ back
The big achievement of Brendon Bolton’s first two years as coach of the Carlton Blues was the restoration of the club’s pride and a sense of indentity in the way they played.

It was defensive footy, essentially the training wheels of football identity, but it worked. Carlton snatched more wins than expected because they could surprise teams who took them lightly, and Blues fans turned up each week knowing that while they wouldn’t win most games, they would usually be competitive.

The AFL seemed to be fans of it – the gave them Rising Star nominations and they gave them Friday night fixtures. Perhaps most importantly, opposition fans (sometimes) gave them respect, because they could see the strength of effort and appreciate the promise of young players.

This is why I was confused at the start of the year when Bolton telegraphed a chance to a more offensive style of play in the 2018 season. Don’t get me wrong, I was a fan, as I usually am of things that surprise me, but it didn’t make a whole lot of sense.

Most teams who learn defence first do eventually graduate to a more balanced style of playing the game, but with the Blues having lost a senior leader in Bryce Gibbs and getting younger again, it just didn’t seem like the right time.

I would have loved to see it be successful and in the preseason and Round 1 it looked like it might well be, but unfortunately those are distant memories right now.

We’ve seen a shift away from defense in that the Blues are no longer restricting teams as much as they once were… but it hasn’t been balanced out by the kind of offensive improvement you need to justify that. Instead of making that step forward, they’ve just taken a step back.

That was readily apparent in this week’s game where they were considered a good chance to get their second win of the season but instead got smashed twelve goals to none in the first half.

Rhys Palmer, who spent a single year at the Blues in 2017 before retiring (at the age of 28) tweeted something a bit cryptic during the game.

If Rhys Palmer’s mid-game tweets are anything like my mid-game tweets then it’s fair to say there might not be a whole of depth of thought behind this one, but it did get me thinking a bit about culture and identity at football team and what shapes those.

Generally speaking they tend to rely heavily on the mature and veteran players in the side but so much of Carlton’s list build strategy has been to ship those players out while brining in mature talent from other clubs at the same time.

But that ‘mature talent’ tends to be more accurately described as ‘blokes who could not get games elsewhere’, and many of them – like Palmer – have only hung around at the Blues a short time before their careers wound up due to lack of talent.

In truth what the Blues need is for mature leaders to develop out of their young talent. And it will probably happen – word this week was that both Patrick Cripps and Charlie Curnow are ready to commit to the club for the long term.

But perhaps the Blues need to revisit how they’re playing the game and look at the best way to build a strong football indentity among the playing group they have now. It’s not as easy as just putting the training wheels right back on, but maybe an innovative solution can be found.

(Photo by Adam Trafford/AFL Media/Getty Images)

We can no longer be silent about the Sydney Swans
I reckon we’ve all been a little guilty at times of underrating the Sydney Swans this season.

Why? It’s hard to put a finger on it exactly. Maybe it comes down to margin sizes – where teams like Richmond, West Coast and Melbourne have shown they have an ability to blow poor sides away, Sydney have generally just gotten the job done.

And sometimes they haven’t. They’ve lost to Port Adelaide, Adelaide and North Melbourne – all at home. It’s the sort of thing that can make you question a team.

For some reason or another, they just don’t seem to be a popular pick when we start talking about teams who might feature in the grand final.

But they’re also the only side in the league to beat top-of-the-table West Coast. In fact as of this week they’re the only side to beat them twice – something we might not see any other side equal this year.

They’ve got themselves onto a six-game winning streak ahead of the bye. The fact that Lance Franklin is back in the side after missing a few games earlier in the year is no doubt a big part of them achieving that consistency.

Perhaps most impressive has been a demonstrated ability to win on the road. They’ve knocked off West Coast at Optus Stadium and Geelong at Kardinia – both feats that no other team can claim to match this year.

And yes, they’ve had one of those all-important wins at the MCG, beating a solidly good Hawthorn side there by eight points earlier this year.

Their first two matches back after that bye will tell us a lot about where this team is at – going up against Richmond and Geelong in consecutive weeks.

But on current form and where they are on the ladder right now, there’s no good reason not to consider them just about as deep in the flag race as any other side.

(Photo by Brett Hemmings/AFL Media/Getty Images)

Fourth quarters are a problem, but not Gold Coast’s biggest
Gold Coast’s last four fourth quarters have resulted in a grand total of zero goals, four behinds being scored for the club.

It wasn’t that interesting a stat until this week. In the three weeks prior, it was just yet another disappointing part of overall comprehensive losses.

This week instead it was the reason they lost their game – a match that, up until the final break, they had looked like winning, if not winning comfortably.

On Saturday they had a fairly even first term against the St Kilda Saints before racing out with five goals to one in the second to set up what should have been a decisive advantage.

They lead by 31 points at the final break… but then went completely scoreless in the last term, and St Kilda snatched the win.

Clearly this is a pattern for Gold Coast, so what explains it? Perhaps it’s their all-over-the-place fixture to start the season. Perhaps the players are being worked too hard at training. All speculation of course – who knows.

But the truth is that poor fourth quarters is not Gold Coast’s biggest problem: their biggest problem is that fact that – and apologies if this is a bit harsh – no one really seems to care what their problems are.

Talk about the size of fanbases of clubs is something that I’ve never found particularly interesting (typical of a North fan, eh?) but I can’t help but wonder if the intangible benefits of having a passionate crowd is something the Suns are missing.

It’s often said that a team like West Coast can benefit a lot from the ‘noise of affirmation’ swaying an umpire decision, but instead what I’m talking about is the pressure that passionate fanbase puts on a team to take pride in itself and make effort to be better.

Perhaps you need a bit of that fire and burden of expectation to really reach the elite standard, and perhaps that’s why it’s only the teams who had existing Victorian fanbases that have managed to be successful playing outside traditional AFL territory – something to think about.

The Crowd Says:

2018-06-20T00:14:33+00:00

The Joy Of X

Guest


@IAP 20.6 9.27am Union (and League) requires much SKILL to be played at the top level...and yes, COURAGE. Fear can produce a considerable impediment to executing skills well. Soccer requires little courage to play. It is a subjective preference as to whether one derives enjoyment from watching skilled athletes showing courage, and being able to overcome the obvious physical risks in their sport. Each to their own. Soccer certainly is an international sport, the world's biggest. "Biggest" does not mean best, or most entertaining. Nor are a bowl of rice, or a cheeseburger, the most common meals in the world, necessarily the best meals. I suggest you might wish to consider the widely discussed and researched concept , the Australian "cultural cringe". You are a classic example of it.

2018-06-19T23:27:53+00:00

Doc Disnick

Roar Guru


So now you're incompetent. Once Kodi is setup, it's straightforward. The problem is, it's of rubbish quality. If you want to use Kodi, call Geeks2U. I hear they are very good with old people. My uncle couldn't afford Optus either.

2018-06-19T23:27:02+00:00

IAP

Guest


Sorry, I didn't realise that it was a requirement to respond to some anonymous person on the internet. I'll try harder to placate your rants next time. Footy is physically harder than soccer, so what. You sound like a rugby person, whose only interest in their game is that they run into each other hard. There's more to sport than just blokes belting each other. There's always more tension in world cup soccer than a game of footy for 4 points. That's what makes the world cup so great; the stakes are the highest of any sporting contest in the world.

2018-06-19T09:09:14+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


Streaming service is more convenient, less steps involved than Kodi. That's why I subscribe to Foxtel. Kodi being smooth and crystal clear was more about demonstrating how good my internet is.

2018-06-19T08:53:42+00:00

Doc Disnick

Roar Guru


Still doesn't explain why you needed to ask about Optus, especially since you allegedly already have crystal clear, free access to the World Cup via Kodi. Why would anyone pay an extra $15 bucks, just for the World Cup, when they already have access? After all, this is what you said: "I watch live on Kodi. Works well." Now your story has changed to it being a bother. Which is it?

2018-06-19T08:07:19+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


I have Foxtel because I don't like to bother with Kodi. Last resort for me. Was really smooth and crisp with no buffering on my super fast internet connection.

2018-06-19T04:37:28+00:00

Doc Disnick

Roar Guru


Like I said, makes we wonder why you asked about Optus to begin with when you allegedly can access a site for free that does the same thing. Makes no sense, anon, especially when you've been using it already. Logic tells me, you had Kodi already, but it was rubbish. You wanted a better quality service and were willing to pay $15/mth. Optus has failed to deliver that to people with poor connections, and as such, you haven't bothered with it. Sound about right?

2018-06-19T03:21:58+00:00

The Joy Of X

Guest


@ Rick Figjam 18.6 6.45pm Your comment that "...Auskick participants. We all know that means nothing..." is incorrect. The AFL is completely entitled to count its AusKick participants -ALL sports (including soccer) have introductory programs etc; and all count these numbers in their Official Registered participants. Your comment re kids "not kicking a ball around once at Auskick" is incorrect. I assume you are not aware that most parents pay for their children to play AusKick (which can go for between 6-18 weeks). Kids have plenty of kicks, either in the Skills' sessions, and/ or the following game. The importance the AFL attrributes to AusKick (which is subsidised by the AFL) is amplified by the fact that Australian Football does NOT have H & A competitions for kids 5-7 y.o. Unlike soccer, it would count extremely few kids who are 3 or 4 y.o. Other sports, however, do have competitions and/or modified Rules and/or "in-house" only sessions for kids 3-8; and rightfully count these kids in their Official Registered numbers. Your comment " ...(Auskick) means nothing, especially when it comes to kids actually playing the game" is incorrect. I understand you live in Sydney. I assume you have no involvement, or knowledge, with any junior Australian Football Club. If you did, you would be aware there is a direct flow-on from kids playing AusKick at the Club, continuing when leaving AusKick into the Club's H & A competition. This is demonstrated by the strong growth of junior Australian Football in Sydney. GWS Zone 2012 67 teams GWS Zone 2018 180 teams Swans Zone 2012 210 teams Swans Zone 2018 438 teams The biggest growth in teams in both areas of Sydney is at the YOUNGEST age groups, 8 and 9 y.o. kids -who have transferred over from AusKick. Sydney AusKick numbers are bulging and also growing well -which guarantee the Club growth. A similar development, re booming AusKick numbers transferring to junior teams, has also occurred in SE Queensland. It is significant that Australian Football Registered participant numbers are on par with those of League in SE Queensland. In both NSW and Queensland, Australian Football has a significant presence in primary and secondary schools -both state and private. In Sydney, Australian Football competitions were introduced in 2013 in GPS, CAS etc schools -and numbers are growing strongly. In the ACT, in 2017 Registered Australian Football numbers are at their highest level since 1984. You are incorrect in saying "...Melbourne, Adelaide etc, the amount of kids 'playing' soccer...is 4-1". Kids playing Australian Football easily surpass those playing soccer in Vic., WA, SA, Tas., and the NT. You are correct in Sydney (actually soccer is much greater than 4-1). The anecdotal evidence is that, in 2018, Registered Australian Football numbers will hit a new record -with good growth in virtually all areas/States. I note you have not commented on my assertion above that soccer, compared to Australian Football, is far more likely to have the same participant counted twice.

2018-06-19T02:38:05+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


Kodi works great for me. Always has. Makes me suspect your internet isn't very good if that surprises you.

2018-06-19T01:38:03+00:00

The Joy Of X

Guest


@ IAP 19.6 9.37am You have not responded to my 3rd question to you above (re most Australian parents would be disgusted if their children cheated- ala soccer diving/feigning agony etc.). Do you agree? You have not responded to my comment above that Australian Football requires much physical courage to play -unlike soccer. Do you agree? And if so, does the requirement of courage to play add to "drama" that is experienced by the attendee? Do you find much "drama' in soccer when one team decides to park the bus? I agree with you that a blowout in Australian Football eliminates the" drama and tension" -but not " skill" in a match.

2018-06-18T23:37:12+00:00

IAP

Guest


Yep, I hate the diving and poor sportsmanship; it frustrates me to no end. I'm always proud of the way our boys play though; tough and hard and diving. It's definitely a cultural thing for us to not do it, even though it's always to our detriment at world cups. There used to be plenty of drama, tension and skill in our game, but it's dropped off significantly in the past few years, with this year being particularly bad. Don't get me wrong, I love footy, and have been a passionate player and supporter for most of my life, but I'm not under and delusion that it's any more than a local sport. It will never have the gravity of the biggest sporting tournament in the world.

2018-06-18T21:43:23+00:00

Doc Disnick

Roar Guru


You can have the fastest car in the world, but it won’t make any difference in a traffic jam, which is why your Kodi won’t work. If it does, Optus would probably work for you too. Have your own lane... well you can do whatever you like, which is why some people are not having issues with Optus. If it were a problem at their end, everyone would be getting stuck, which clearly isn’t the case. Optus have to take responsibility - they’ve taken peoples money, but they won’t be the ones solving the problem.

2018-06-18T14:04:26+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


I have pretty fast internet so that's probably why I don't have any issues streaming Kodi, nor issues streaming other products. Optus is acknowledging that they are at fault and not their subscribers.

2018-06-18T13:10:03+00:00

Doc Disnick

Roar Guru


No, I think you’ll find when the dust settles the following: 1. SBS onselling the WC rights due to government budget cuts; 2. Inadequate infrastructure to allow such an event to be broadcast via streaming. Those two critical issues colliding are the problem. Optus will not fix this issue, nor you pretending to have a perfect stream via Kodi. Optus will have two days to liaise with Telstra - the only organisation that can free up the exchange at the node, allowing for a greater amount of traffic to those still limited by their $#!ty copper network (which are most). This of course will require subsidisation, which Optus will blame the government for due to a lack of infrastructure. The only thing I blame Optus for is being blind enough to think they could provide this service. However, the government is the root cause of the issue. Once again, bandwidth is the problem. It won’t be solved in two days, or easily without Telstra’s involvement, just like Sevens Olympic App. Unless your exchange is shared by people who don’t stream live sport, your little fake Kodi won’t work either during heavy traffic World Cup games. Don’t be a slave to the ill-informed.

2018-06-18T10:37:16+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


They had games on the Gold Coast, in Darwin, etc long before the introduction of those two teams. It's not as though those teams don't get anyone turning up they still get 10k people. 2007 we had 42,948 per game. 2016 we had 32,306 per game. That means in 2016 we had an average of 290,574 per round. Discount the 10k in attendance to a Suns or Giants game that's 280,574. Divide by 8 remaining games brings us to 35,094. Not including the expansion clubs there is still a sharp drop off in average attendance. But again, you bring up a great point about how the expansion teams have been a total waste of time and resources. Hundreds of millions spent with nothing to show for it.

2018-06-18T10:28:09+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


Looks as though Optus have admitted they can't offer a quality product and asked SBS to broadcast games for the next two nights. Which confirms what I was saying. That the problem is not as SBS's end, not with the consumer.

2018-06-18T10:17:13+00:00

BigAl

Guest


BLOWOUTS - or shortlasting runons where one team scores wildly thus rendering the rest of the game a borefest is the biggest threat the game id facing ! Forget about individual rule interpretation, more field umpires, third eye goal decisions... Something just has to be done to the structure of the game to overcome this. I have given my ideas about how to do this, this on this forum several times...

2018-06-18T10:03:46+00:00

Kevo

Roar Rookie


Was n’t the bulldogs winning the 2016 flag an Icelandic moment - certainly 4 Icelandic finals games at least?

2018-06-18T09:52:07+00:00

Doran Smith

Roar Guru


The Swans have been outstanding .

2018-06-18T09:29:01+00:00

Macca

Guest


Dingo - watch the video, it wasn't media training.

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