Why do the Raiders stick with Ricky? Musings on coach job-security

By Joe Frost / Editor

It’s always fun to indulge in a bit of schadenfreude, so let’s talk about sacking coaches.

This season has been relatively quiet on the coach-sacking front, primarily because we’ve got such an unexpected ladder at the halfway mark of the season.

As a result, there’s a decent chance we’ll see the regular season out without a single sacking.

But that’s no fun. Instead, let’s put all 16 NRL coaches into categories based on the likelihood of them getting booted before the finals series begins.

Obviously safe as houses
First off, let’s rule out the guys who – barring some kind of disaster or scandal of their own making – simply aren’t in the conversation for losing their job.

Craig Bellamy, Shane Flanagan and Trent Robinson are good as gold – not only have they recently won premierships, they’ve got their teams humming along in the top eight. A combination of track record, current ladder standing and respect of their dressing room means they’re fine.

I had a whole argument ready to go about how Wayne Bennett was in trouble if Bellamy signed with the Broncos for next season and Benny’s boys stopped playing for him, but with reports out of Melbourne suggesting Bellamy is staying put, Bennett isn’t going anywhere either.

Oddly enough, the boss of one wooden-spoon fancies, North Queensland, is similarly safe. The Cowboys rate Paul Green enough to have signed him on a fat deal only two months ago, so he’s not going anywhere… this year.

Anthony Seibold has South Sydney playing like the team they’ve threatened to be since their 2014 premiership triumph – and during his first year holding a clipboard – so he’s sleeping easy.

Ivan Cleary took on the poison chalice that is the Wests Tigers, but has the team playing with pride again. And, let’s be honest, their chances of signing Nathan Cleary hinge on his dad being the coach.

I’m not saying it’s the only reason he’s safe – Ivan clearly knows his stuff – but Nathan’s signature is a mighty fine carrot for the club to keep Ivan on the books.

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Finally, while the blowtorch was on all three ahead of this season, Paul McGregor, Anthony Griffin and Stephen Kearney respectively have the Dragons, Panthers and Warriors in great shape. They’ll see 2018 out.

Okay, boring stuff out of the way, let’s get into who’s head is potentially on the chopping block – and to what degree.

Likely safe, but stranger things have happened…
This week, the Knights announced they had extended Nathan Brown’s contract, with a view to making him the club’s longest-serving coach, so it would appear he’s going to be fine.

However, the structure of his contract puts the slightest bit of scrutiny over him.

Brown is now on an open-ended deal, with set payout amounts factored in should he be regarded as surplus to requirement.

Now, the Knights have been decimated by injury to key players, yet they are having their best season in years – but all that really means is they’re not planted firmly to the bottom of the ladder.

So while it isn’t likely to happen – not the way the Eels, Sea Eagles and Cowboys are playing – were Newcastle to see the wheels fall off and be headed towards a third consecutive wooden spoon with a few weeks to go, you’d have to think the club would activate the payout clause in Brown’s contract.

Garth Brennan is making a decent fist of things on the Gold Coast Titans, with his side still a shot at making the eight.

What’s more, with the club having sacked and paid out their last coach, and Brennan only in his first year, it would surely take something pretty drastic for the rookie coach to be shown the door.

Of course, this is the club that backed an underperforming player on big money rather than support their coach last year, leading to Neil Henry to cop the sack, only for Jarryd Hayne to decide he was leaving too.

This club is a coach killer, so Garth isn’t quite safe just yet.

Another coach who’s lucky (depending on your point of view) enough to be in his first year is Dean Pay, who is starting to remind me of Nathan Brown in 2016.

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Pay has inherited an ageing side with a small group of players on massive contracts, and a few more having theirs back-ended, meaning while the club struggled to fit under the cap this season, the side they’re fielding are running second-last.

The poor bloke is now tasked with putting a broom through the joint and rebuilding, which is going to take – as we’ve seen in the Hunter – at least three years, probably longer.

Again, being a first-year coach who took over from a bloke who was unceremoniously cut and may yet receive a seven-figure payout, the Dogs will be hesitant to dump Pay without giving him a fair go.

But this is a club that demands success. How long they’ll put up with being at the back end of proceedings remains to be seen.

The men most likely
Brad Arthur has the biggest target on his back at the moment.

After 2016 was decimated by the club’s salary cap scandal, throughout which Arthur stood tall to hold things together, the Eels were a top-four side last year and the only team that pushed Melbourne in the finals.

So 2018 was supposed to be their year, yet they’re languishing at the bottom of the ladder.

Losing Semi Radradra was obviously a big blow, and injuries haven’t helped, but the whispers that the team’s halves don’t get along and – more worryingly – that Arthur has lost the dressing room have the coach in the hot seat.

The finals are a pipe dream this year, but a strong back-end of the season would save Arthur’s job. However, a guaranteed wooden spoon before August is out and he’ll be yet another coaching casualty at Parramatta.

Trent Barrett was reportedly being told by those close to him at the start of the season to walk away from his gig at the Sea Eagles.

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Between the salary cap drama hindering his ability to sign players, the biffo between club captain Daly Cherry-Evans and youngster Jackson Hastings, then injuries cleaning out his already relatively bare cupboards, there were fears Barrett’s career as a coach would come to a premature end if he stuck things out.

Basically, quitting would have been regarded as an act of self-preservation. But he stood up at the start of May and declared he wasn’t going anywhere, which the players, fans, and board must have deeply appreciated.

Then with a pair of wins over the Broncos and Storm in the following weeks, suddenly everything looked rosy on the Northern Beaches.

But Manly have since copped four losses on the trot to sit third-last, just one win clear of the Eels.

It probably didn’t help matters when former club champion Anthony Watmough came out this week and declared Cherry-Evans to be “a f***wit” who “has probably p***ed one too manly people off in the game”.

Sure, he’s not slamming Barrett – just the man Barrett decided was the best candidate to lead the club on and off the field.

(Just quietly, that’s what rugby league punditry should all be about – people talk about how refreshingly honest Paul Gallen is, but I’m yet to hear him brand a single former teammate as a “f***wit”.)

For all these off-field issues, no team containing DCE, the Trbojevic brothers and Martin Taupau – with a smattering of current and former rep players in there for good measure – should be playing this badly.

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Barrett’s saving grace may simply be that the board really are as dysfunctional as the papers suggest.

Finally, we come to Ricky Stuart.

He’s one of Canberra’s favourite sons, but while the Raiders were the surprise packets of 2016, the last two seasons they have forgotten how to win, with a seeming inability to close out tight scorelines.

They’ve got a talented roster, arguably a better one than 2016, which must make the losses all the more frustrating for their fans.

But perhaps the most ominous prospect for Stuart is his employers taking the time to look back at his record.

Because, while he did win a premiership in his first season as an NRL coach, the intervening 16 years have been pretty tumultuous.

He was sacked by the Roosters, quit the Sharks in acrimonious circumstances, then left the Eels in the lurch after one season in Parramatta, during which time he obliterated their roster and led them to a wooden spoon.

None of which would matter if he was getting results on the field, but since his run of three straight grand finals with the Roosters in his first three years at the helm, he’s taken his teams to the playoffs just twice: with Cronulla in 2008 and Canberra in 2016.

That means in 13 completed seasons, Stuart’s teams have played September footy on just five occasions. By comparison, his sides have collected one wooden spoon and run second-last three times.

Basically, a Stuart-coached side is almost as likely to finish in the bottom two as the top eight and far more likely to miss the finals than play in them.

He’s rarely mentioned as having his head on the chopping block, but unless he can get the green machine into finals contention by season’s end, surely his role would have to come under scrutiny?

The Crowd Says:

2018-06-18T03:33:51+00:00

DP Schaefer

Guest


Very good points Ken.

2018-06-18T02:53:36+00:00

KenW

Guest


'The side they have on paper would challenge for the premiership' Shouldn't Mary get at least some of the credit for that though? Under his watch: - Astute additions like Hunt, McInnes, Sims, Vaughn & Graham have come in. All are rated more highly now than when they were finishing off with their old clubs. - Overseen the team while players like JDB, Frizell went from fringe first graders to reps. - Brought young players like Aitken, Dufty, Host into the team as regular first graders and blooded the next generation (Lawrie, Host, Lomax, Leilua, Robson, etc). I certainly haven't agreed with everything he's done but the big picture looks pretty good, while his team has basically been in position 1 all year. You're a hard marker to say his job is still in question.

2018-06-17T21:22:16+00:00

Dutski

Roar Guru


Had this discussion on another article, but worth floating here. Stuart cops a lot of flack for his inability to develop players, but can you think of anyone apart from Vaughan who has improved under someone else's coaching?

2018-06-17T20:40:41+00:00

Womblat

Guest


I liked your description of Stuart (pig headed, stubborn, short, but a good bloke, made me laugh) but there's more to it. Ricky is a local boy, and was doing ballboy stuff out Captain's Flat for the Red Ants 40 years ago. That's gotta count for something in a mercenary world. Mal Meninga counts him as the toughest bloke he's ever played with (Mal? THAT'S gotta be worth something), and Ricky Stuart Foundation in Canberra is the only reason many parents with autistic kids can even get through the day. The bloke is everything you say but his reputation and his work off the field makes him worth five Neil Henrys, who chose to walk. His stats are sobering but he's simply too important and integral to ditch. And he's not the brother of the boss, either. The Green Machine will turn it around. Paul Green is the bloke most likely I think. He inherited a magical winning side with every reason to keep going and look at what's happened. They clearly aren't happy. Maybe JT played on too long, maybe whatever, but a good coach surely would find a way to lift a superb team to great heights instead of presiding over their doom and an ignominious exit for a great. Nice bloke, but there by default and not latching onto bright points in a dark time. He should go. And I think Bennett is just too old. His history is astounding and not likely to be repeated, but everyone's time comes and his came years ago. More taciturn, more staccato, he's like the grumpy grandpa no-one in the new world can relate to any more. The game needs fresh faces, ideas and media profiles, and Wayne isn't any of those. Time's up for the bloke. Hand the reigns over dude and enjoy retirement.

2018-06-17T14:21:08+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


Sorry Taree - Neil Henry chose to go to the Cowboys - no one put a gun to his head. Henry used his time at the Raiders as some job experience on his CV before he was offered the Cowboys job. He didn't hesitate in accepting it. And let's face it his subsequent coaching efforts at the Cowboys and the Titans were pretty ordinary. Dave Furner had a crack and had one good season when the Raiders stormed home - and then the sh&t hit the fan with Dugan and Ferguson. He lost control and had to go. He did a good job as assistant coach at the Cowboys and currently with the Rabbits. Perhaps that's his go. Look I agree with your assessment of Ricky's stubbornness - particularly his decision to continue to use Sezer and Hingano as a make shift back up hooker rather than giving Craig Garvey that role. I'll never understand why that happened. But he has assembled a pretty decent roster. Aidan Sezer has not achieved the consistency as a dominant half back that was expected of him but I'm not sure you can blame Ricky for that. Blame Sezer. And I'm not sure that Sezer is on massive money. The Raiders looked a totally different team with Hodgson back today and Sezer and Austin played their roles in the win. I'm holding back on sticking the boots into Ricky until we see what the team can achieve in the second half of the season.

2018-06-17T10:38:20+00:00

Taree Raider

Guest


Ricky Stuart is a good bloke, he is loyal, opinionated, pig headed & won't admit he is wrong & he's short. Ricky plays favorites & stays with them no matter what. This is to his peril. Seizer is not the half back the Raiders need. But Ricky picked him, payed him heaps & he hasn't got what it takes. You'd think that Ricky of all the coaches could make any half better & better. No Aiden hasn't got better, he may not have got any worse but he doesn't earn us repeat sets. He can't close out games. But that doesn't matter, because they have just re signed him. Go figure. If you look back at the Raiders over the past decade, when Neil Henry was in charge they were on the rise. The Raiders/Furners wanted to give David a gig so they let Neil go early. David did nothing with them & is probably a good assistant coach, but that's it. Ricky's past record is a good indication of his future record. He's had long enough. After 2016, he came out & stated that the Raiders had to play tough like all the other good teams do. So instead of playing an attacking based game where you score more points than your opponents & you win. He tried to be the same as everyone else. They are no good at that. So here's an idea, go back to playing like they did today, attack, offload be totally unpredicatable, that way the opposition can't work you out. Or see if Neil Henry want's to come back to the Green Machine.

2018-06-17T01:51:03+00:00

DP Schaefer

Guest


Trent Robinson may not be so safe if Roosters don't win GF in next 2 years. Seibold is a revelation, (uninteresting fact - the most misspelt name in League history? Telegraph, Wikipedia, NRL, Courier Mail, The Roar, SMH also use spelling Siebold - sometimes both spellings in the same article). Cleary also a great year yet could lose Coach of Year to Seibold, depending on where they both finish. Outside of those two and a couple others, not many are really coaching well. And who is in the 'wings'? Des was hot property a year ago but given recent dramas I don't expect to see him coach again.

2018-06-17T01:30:31+00:00

DP Schaefer

Guest


Agreed Paul, I'd go as far to say that Mary needs to go deep into September, even GF perhaps to ensure his spot long term. He has had a top roster for many years and this current lot are GF material. With possibly new owners in the mix he needs better results. I wasn't a fan last year but he seemed to take stock of his own performance and has established some excellent club structures. Ian Millward - Nathan Pickworth handling important functions, setting himself up for a great dynasty but his coaching and possibly man management still seem to need a lot of work.

2018-06-16T23:07:09+00:00

Forty Twenty

Guest


The least reliable indicator of the future success of a coach is the opinion of passionate fans. Three coaches who many regarded as the worst of the crop, Kearney , Hook and Mary are at the pointy end of the table heading for the finals series. Meanwhile Paul Green and Brad Arthur are languishing at the wobbly end of the table despite having huge wraps on them. The clubs have a very difficult job selecting a coach and knowing when to unselect him (or her). If Barrett wins Manlys first ever wooden spoon it will recorded as gospel that he is an outsider and Manly's worst ever coach by a vast majority of their own fans. Luckily it is not relevant to the clubs future. I seem to recall Trent Robinson leading the Roosters to the spoon or close a few years back but so what. Each new season is a different beast as this one has proven.

2018-06-16T22:25:22+00:00

Paul

Roar Guru


Logic would suggest you're right about Stuart's career in Canberra Joe, but they seem to use a different sort of logic in the nations capital. The other issue they'd need to address is his replacement. I don't have a lot of knowledge about available coaches but there don't seem to be to many quality options out there, who aren't already signed up. Mary McGregor's no lock in my opinion to keep his job at the Dragons. It's an absolute given the side must make the finals, but they need to win at least their first game for him to be safe. The side they have on paper would challenge for the premiership and if they don't and lose badly, I'd reckon the Dragons might go shopping.

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