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I’m reminded of a quote from, um, myself: “I didn’t wear a face mask once… it’s in no way mandated nor incumbent upon me to do so.”

What's going on with NRL players flaunting the face-mask rules?

Tough call on McCullough – he was great for Newcastle until he went down injured. Does focus on his defence these days but is a calm, experienced head and can still find the tryline.
As for TPJ, I’ve divided the forwards into props (8 & 10) and backrow/lock (11, 12, 13), as opposed to middles and edges. He’ll likely play a bit of prop, a bit of lock, and some second row if required.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

The term representative player isn’t used at all here.

The Brisbane Broncos have too much talent to come dead last in 2021

A) who’d publish it?
B) who’d read it?
Players have a public profile that makes people – fair or not – want to see them in the media. The people reporting it don’t have anywhere near that profile.
In short, famous people being dickheads sells. Nobodies being dickheads doesn’t.

The NRL needs to sort out its M&Ms instead of worrying about getting Fuller

Would you Characterise this typo as diamettrically opposed to your preferred way of writing?

The NRL needs to sort out its M&Ms instead of worrying about getting Fuller

Right you are Zenn – fair play. Article has been updated (digital wrapping though it may be at this stage).

The NRL needs to sort out its M&Ms instead of worrying about getting Fuller

Mushi: *reads an article and decides he wishes it was about a different topic* “I don’t like all of this article. I’m owed an apology.”

In the NRL, sorry seems to be the hardest word

Mushi: *sees image of Shane Flanagan* “I am so sick of all this Israel Folau clickbait!”

In the NRL, sorry seems to be the hardest word

So you scroll halfway down the homepage, find the Latest Comments column, where one of the five latest comments on the entire site (where 18 stories have been published today) has to have been left on this story, and have mentioned Folau by name (at this point, about one-fifth of the comments on this story have mentioned him).
Reckon that’s a sustainable way to generate clicks?
If my aim was to create Izzy clicks, I’d have him front and centre.

In the NRL, sorry seems to be the hardest word

Since you descended into the personal rather than engage with the issue, I’ll help you out.
Clickbait is what makes you click on the article – the hint is right there in the name. You’re baited to click.
In the case of The Roar, the reader is engaged to click based on the headline, featured image or lede par because they’re all you see of the article before you click on it.
Since he does not appear in any of those three click engagers, this article – by definition – is not Folau clickbait.
You’re looking at four legs and a trunk and seeing waterfowl.
Lastly, if you want to engage in an academic debate, cool. But if you just want to be insulting, I’d ask you to kindly duck off.

In the NRL, sorry seems to be the hardest word

Define clickbait. Maybe describe a duck while you’re at it.

In the NRL, sorry seems to be the hardest word

Folau doesn’t appear in the headline, featured image or lede paragraph.
Can’t be clickbait if you don’t even know he features until after you’ve clicked on it.

In the NRL, sorry seems to be the hardest word

But the matter being discussed in this piece is not whether Mannah knew the cap was breached, but the fact he lied to the integrity unit about an investigation into the cap, which couldn’t be more cut and dried.
Tight ship, JGK, tight ship.

So… what did Tim Mannah say to get Isaac Moses deregistered?

I don’t care about identifying the third-party business. It’s the club and the player I want info on and from.

So… what did Tim Mannah say to get Isaac Moses deregistered?

As per NRL: “All third party agreements must be registered and approved beforehand. This is to ensure that they do not become a way for clubs or players to use sponsors or third parties to undermine the salary cap…”
https://www.nrl.com/operations/integrity/salary-cap/

So… what did Tim Mannah say to get Isaac Moses deregistered?

Fitzy has been starting 11, but the Knights recruited a “unit” from the Dragons who’ll wear that jersey this season.
And with O’Brien flagging a move for Watson to 13, Barnett will move to 12, and Fitz will be on the bench.

Could Mitchell Pearce be forced out of the Knights? If the shoe Fitz

Also, as per the NRL website: “The Rookie of the Year is voted on 3 points, 2 points and 1 point basis by the Dally M judges at the conclusion of Round 25.”
So winning the major gong doesn’t necessarily guarantee you also win rookie of the year status, which is where my understanding they are supposed to go to different players comes from.
Well, that and Mick Potter not getting both.

Bradman in line for Dally M honours as the Best young talent in the NRL

Based on my research, there hasn’t been a double up before.
There was one year when it was possible, when Mick Potter won the major award in ’84 (he had played one match in ’83, so by current definition he was still a rookie), but Greg Alexander took out rookie of the year.
My understanding is that rookie is reserved for an up-and-comer, whereas the Dally M means you’ve ‘made it’. No point giving both to the same person.
But if Harry takes both out this year, I’m happy to be proven wrong.

Bradman in line for Dally M honours as the Best young talent in the NRL

Do you honestly think that sentence means we’re shifting the discussion from the history of the NRL to literally every single game that’s ever been played in Australia? If so, where do we draw the line? You want to talk about my season with South Newcastle third-grade Under 11s? Technically it is part of the entire history of rugby league in Australia. And if memory serves, Maryland gave us quite the flogging in the regular season before we beat them in the grand final.
It’s been made clear from the outset we’re talking about the top-flight comp. And, again with due respect to the Brisbane comp, the BRL has never been that. It has no common history with the NRL.
The parameters for the discussion were set in the third paragraph. It’s not arrogant or incorrect to use absolutes in a defined discussion, it’s efficient.

My favourite NRL stat proves the Broncos are finished for 2020

Mate, I highlighted three examples and you tried to defend one – and you don’t even seem to realise the one you’re defending is you trying to put words in my mouth, rather than critically engage with the issue.
I set the parameters of last week’s discussion in the third paragraph, with the words “Since the NSWRL started in 1908…” To then take the words “history of rugby league in Australia” to mean every single game of rugby league that’s ever been played – rather than the history of the NRL, which has never had a shared history with the BRL – is a strawman argument. Which is a sure-fire sign of someone who’s not here to engage with the issues, they just want an argument.
It was a piece, backed up with research and data, that argued the Broncos won’t win the comp this year. You didn’t engage with that issue, you tried to find a way to argue a definition.
Also, “you are contradicting a fan who hangs his hat on winning the reserve grade comp in 97” isn’t engaging with the issue at all, it’s pettiness – and it’s a hallmark of the comments I’ve highlighted.
As for this week, I’ve written a piece about going to a game of football, backed up with the evidence of me, y’know, having gone to the football (there’s even photographic proof). Your response was to try delegitimise my membership. That’s not engaging with the issue, it’s just being small.
Look, fair play, you got an argument out of me today. But I think we’re done here.
If you continue to comment in bad faith, yes, you’ll be moderated. If you try being decent, I’m sure you’ll get a lot more out of this site.

In the stands at a post-COVID NRL game

Is it my continued lack of effort that has you coming back to read week after week? Or do you only disagree with an opinion if you don’t feel there has been requisite effort?
And was “Is your membership based on how the teams starts the year?” aimed at stimulating discussion? What about last week’s commets: “Ohhhh, that’s cute. A Knights fan, who hasn’t seen finals footy in 7 years, telling others who will/won’t win.”
Or: “Watch the excuses come now. Although you are contradicting a fan who hangs his hat on winning the reserve grade comp in 97 so if it doesn’t include NSWRL it didn’t happen.”
(FYI, you got a total of one ‘like’ for those three comments – a big hit with the crowd.)
I’m all for critical debate but you’re not providing that, you’re being argumentative and condescending.
Want to offer a difference of opinion, go nuts. But if you can’t manage a bit of decency in your comments, take them somewhere else.

In the stands at a post-COVID NRL game

“Since the NSWRL started in 1908…”
Fair play to the BRL, but since that’s a comp with zero common history with the modern-day NRL – not even the Broncos ever played in the BRL – their history isn’t relevant to this piece.
This is a stat based on the history of the NRL, which was previously the ARL, which was previously the NSWRL. The BRL is the BRL is the BRL.
I’m sure if you go digging, you’ll find a team in the history of New England Group 19 probably had 50 put on them and went on to win the decider. But that’s not the comp we’re talking about.

My favourite NRL stat proves the Broncos are finished for 2020

The Knights membership team asked for pledges two weeks ago and I pledged the day I got the email.
I’m a member of the club that won three straight spoons – as you enjoyed pointing out in my previous piece, about the Broncos – so no, how the team starts the year doesn’t determine whether I pay my dues each season.
Finally, Nat, I clock your comments and they’re all negative. All of them. You’re just itching for a fight.
Do me a favour, stop reading my pieces since they seem to make you so angry.

In the stands at a post-COVID NRL game

What’s Sia’s stance? I don’t want anyone to put words in the man’s mouth, but I’ve looked all over and while Bryce Cartwright has addressed the situation, all I’ve found about Sia and the other Canberra pair is that they said no to the jab and crossed out words in the waiver.
Has he actually said why he won’t take the shot?

I’m desperate for the footy to start but I’ll stand by Sia Soliola

“the money the Queensland government would likely chip in to try and get their own economy going again would be large and should easily allow the NRL to cover any compensation required to be paid to the New South Wales government.”
Realistic solution.
Great read Scotty.

It's time for a Queensland NRL grand final