Are Super League really going to refuse entry to Toronto?

By Steve Mascord / Expert

Your columnist has been taken to task more than once here for being an Anglophile.

And it’s true, I am something of an Anglophile. Months-old copies of Open Rugby, blurry vision of Peter Sterling taking on Brett Kenny at Wembley and …. Dr Who loom large in my childhood memory.

Rugby league in England is an outsider sport and I guess I see myself as an outsider. Liking English rugby league, for a kid from Wollongong, was like having your cake and eating it too – you could share an interest with the class bullies while simultaneously setting yourself apart from them.

More recently we’ve seen an issue that stoked passions here and elsewhere that seemed to fit the cosy narrative of the English as the good guys: the Denver Test.

Here were the English players standing up to their clubs to travel to America for an important event in the build-up to 2025 World Cup, while the Aussies did their best to sabotage it. It was something that continued last week with an ARLC statement that reheated some old ideas, told the 2019 British Lions to stay home and went to great lengths to block a repeat of the Denver Test next year.

Tom Burgess in action for England (Image: NRL)

Brits: goodies; Aussies: baddies. It all seemed so simple.

But in recent days I’ve got wind of strong suggestions that the Toronto Wolfpack, the most adventurous and ambitious club in the history of our sport, may be blocked from taking part in Super League next year.

They are expected to be told by the end of this month.

Perhaps it would suit the opposition of Super League clubs towards the Super Eights concept for this year’s instalment to be a sham, with one club taking part the way Melbourne did when they were stripped of premiership points – for nothing.

Imagine the humiliation of legitimately early promotion but it being denied anyway.

The scepticism towards the Wolfpack has seeped out at the worst possible time for them. New Super League chief executive Robert Elstone was asked on the Whippets and Flatcaps podcast if he was excited about the club.

“Really honestly … they probably make me slightly nervous because in one sense they can been exciting but anyone who’s been in the sport a long time can tell you there isn’t a great record in terms of making those expansions stick,” Elstone answered.

“We are ultimately backing the intensions and actions of one individual. His actions to date have been positive. His intentions have been great today but we can’t be certain they are going to be great in five years’ time.

“We can’t afford to turn our back on anybody in that respect. It is clearly very random. You talk about expansion, you would go where there’s a natural footprint or players, participation, audience.

“There isn’t that. But there’a a guy who’s prepared – seemingly – to invest in making sure there is a future there. I think we have to proceed with optimism but a degree of caution.”

He earlier revealed: “I’ve asked for a report on Toronto. I’ve asked for due diligence done today, I’ve asked for projected future due diligence, I’ve asked for what the promised terms are in terms of any future commercial arrangements and I’ve asked where they sit in terms of minimum standards and one of the minimum standards is playing a home-and-away season.”

Hull KR’s Neil Hudgell, on the seriousaboutrl.com site, added this: “It could be fabulous, it could open up the TV markets in North America, what’s the problem with Toronto is the logistics of getting there and fixture scheduling!

“So there’s some due diligence that still needs to be done with Toronto, that should have been done before they were allowed into competition.

“Super League clubs are being asked to deal with some of the issues, that should never have been issues if the due diligence had been done in the first place.

“I’ve met the owner of Toronto, he’s a very passionate guy and he’s a top businessman and there is some potential but at the minute I think the jury is wondering about the longevity of it and how it fits with the Super League competition.

“On the logistic side of it, as on the strategic side of it, there’s no way they can repeat this year’s championship, without compromising the integrity of the competition.

“And if weather-wise, climate-wise they can’t play at home for three months, that really is a serious problem that has to be addressed.

“I have a real long-standing issue about integrity, compromising integrity, and there are things that compromise integrity of the competition.

“Fixtures are one, visas another, so for example Kenny Edwards can get into France, can’t get into the UK, so that’s an advantage.

“There’s a whole range of things that the game needs to tackle on that.

“I don’t want to be downbeat on the Toronto experience, but I do think it hasn’t been given the necessary due diligence, before they were given entry to the competition.”

While it’s easy to see why Super League owners wouldn’t want another Paris St Germain in the competition, do they really expect an organisation that has spent so much already and won two lower division titles in as many years to simply go away and play in the Championship again because there’s no roof on their grandstand or no corporate boxes at Lamport Stadium?

The club has already said publicly it will take games on the road next year when Toronto is too cold – not just London but places like Barcelona and even Shanghai!

Are we really going to turn away a club with this sort of vision, willing to pay for all incoming teams, with the entire North American beach head at stake, which legitimately wins it’s way to promotion?

If so, it may just be the biggest own-goal in rugby league history; only to be eclipsed by blowing the 2025 World Cup in North America (and that will probably happen too).

All of it at a time when Super League itself has become such a depressing backwater and is fighting over crumbs with lower division teams who can’t field 17 players each week?

Those sides hold the aces as they would all have to agree to the Super Eights being ditched.

How can Super League get its way? By blocking someone who wins the Super Eights from coming up, that’s how?

And just so we don’t get our cars egged in Bradford, why not block the Canadians? They won’t picket our offices, they live too far away.

This organisation has signed NRL players, happily started at the bottom of a league where crowds are sometimes counted in the dozens, flew teams across the Atlantic and housed them, smiled in the face of freeloaders and leaches and is now about about to be betrayed at the final hurdle.

I was wrong. The Aussies don’t have a mortgage on self-immolating greed and narrow-mindedness.

Clearly not by a long stretch.

The Crowd Says:

2018-07-25T04:10:18+00:00

Parra

Guest


I don't understand the thinking behind those comments. In Australia there are the NZ Warriors in the NRL; why not the Wolfpack in Superleague? It's a no brainer. Also many clubs in Aust are privately owned just like toronto. Further, they are just what the game needs to grow the game. No impediments there. Get on with it.

2018-07-19T06:21:50+00:00

concerned supporter

Guest


Cathar, ''I’m not Concerned Supporter & The Roar can confirm this!'' No need., I am confirming it.

2018-07-19T06:12:25+00:00

concerned supporter

Guest


Cathar

2018-07-19T06:03:08+00:00

Justin Kearney

Roar Rookie


Actually that’s not quite right. Nrl Victoria now has over 250 teams across around 20 clubs. League is stronger up to under 12s. After that union is generally stronger although league now has three seniors men’s grades as well as women’s. Given the lack of support by the ARL this is a good achievement.

2018-07-19T05:58:19+00:00

Crosscoder

Roar Guru


Wouldn't argue with any of your valid points duecer.Winning always brings out the fly by night supporters. Bear in mind the rl fan base is still small in Victoria,yet they are a committed Storm membership lot, and continued to be even though the Storm played for zero points one year. What you must remember ,the ESL has had more than a couple of years to test the financials and provide due diligence of the Wolfpack and their backers.Not just leaving it till they are on the way to the ESL In fact I would much prefer a NE USA/Canada rl comp.To me long term ,sounds more viable. One man's largesse indeed and sponsors(including an airline) and paying fans.

2018-07-19T04:58:38+00:00

duecer

Guest


There's no denying RU has a stronger junior base than RL in Vic, but that doesn't negate the fact that winning adds many fans to a clubs popularity, whatever code it happens to be. As for the article's premise - the super league should do it's due diligence. The Wolfpack exist on one man's largesse - if something were to happen to this main sponsor, what are the guarantees that this team would continue without massive subsidies? It could be argued that this situation exists for many EPL teams, but their 'brand' is worth many millions, the Wolfpack has not been around long enough to gain any such traction.

2018-07-19T03:21:45+00:00

Crosscoder

Roar Guru


Seriously Guinevere you hate rl, we get it regardless of how many names you use. Most of us are on a rl thread with a sport most of us follow closely, as opposed to your appearance on a rl thread for a sport you despise.We criticise when we feel the need and stand by it ditto. Why the need to change your ,moniker so often? Fear? Never in my born days since football foums came into vogue, have I seen a poster having to change his name so often, to appear as a fresh original contributor.

2018-07-19T03:09:09+00:00

Justin Kearney

Roar Rookie


Whoever he is just treat him with contempt. The guy is seriously unstable that’s all I know.

2018-07-19T03:08:41+00:00

Crosscoder

Roar Guru


"Free tickets "Matt oops Guinevere.Please provide source not a stab in the anti rl dark? Sentanta Asia access to 100m has a broadcast deal with the Wolfpack. City of Toronto, Tourism Toronto Canadian UK High Commission Toronto Global all involved with publicising this club.All being "conned "according to the man of many aliases. The origin of all the overseas players is hardly a secret there. The opening of the Toronto Exch,was announced in a stack of news outlets both there and abroad.Google and it's there for all to see. Keep up the guesswork. A small drop in crowds, crisis.

2018-07-19T03:04:48+00:00

Cathar Treize

Roar Guru


It's not Matty, its not Guinevere, it is someone who just uses these aliases to bully in the shadows.

2018-07-19T03:01:19+00:00

Fred

Guest


Even if not knowing the teams, I'm sure more people have heard of Leeds and Wigan as cities than Batley or Halifax

2018-07-19T02:59:32+00:00

Cathar Treize

Roar Guru


Are you now looking into my partner's profile on facebook? Should I be calling the police at this deliberate stalking & incessant?

2018-07-19T02:56:51+00:00

Justin Kearney

Roar Rookie


On twitter he uses ‘Martin Bryant’.

2018-07-19T02:55:39+00:00

Cathar Treize

Roar Guru


Why are you using my partner's name? And how many aliases is this across social media? Why? FYI I'm not Concerned Supporter & The Roar can confirm this!

2018-07-19T02:53:06+00:00

Cathar Treize

Roar Guru


Justin, he got this name off my facebook. It is my partner's name. I will let you guess the rest about the stability of one's mind

2018-07-19T01:13:02+00:00

Justin Kearney

Roar Rookie


It actually does make sense matty. Nice new Id by the way!

2018-07-19T01:11:45+00:00

Justin Kearney

Roar Rookie


Might not yet matty. But a lot will if the Wolfpack make tier one.

2018-07-19T00:49:40+00:00

Justin Kearney

Roar Rookie


You tell em Matty! Great to have you back.

2018-07-18T23:29:58+00:00

Justin Kearney

Roar Rookie


More like 10000 playing in Penrith junior rugby league this year. Well over 700 teams including a massive influx of females. I believe over 13 aged group participants numbers have risen this bucking the trend.

2018-07-18T23:16:50+00:00

concerned supporter

Guest


Crosscoder, ''I despair at times,with some of the thicks running the game.'' Mate, I follow both Union & League, you may or may not know that the ARU/RA Board of Directors, Chairman, Cameron Clyne are currently the subject of an ASIC investigation, commenced by Liberal Senator, Linda Reynolds. Below are links. ''https://www.lindareynolds.com.au/asic-must-investigate-latest-rugby-australia-evidence/ '' ASIC are normally ''lame ducks'' as far as penalties are concerned, they protect the big end of town, they don't usually penalise them., The NRL administration leaves the ARU/RA for dead. Penrith Emus in Sydney this season were culled after 4 completed rounds of the Shute Shield. The Penrith catchment area is massive, young people galore, yet the NSWRU failed, there are 4,500 players in the Penrith Junior: league?

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