Warning signs for Tigers, Eagles, Pies

By Samuel Ord / Roar Guru

The old saying goes that bad news comes in threes and that was certainly the case AFL’s top three premiership contenders in Round 17.

Tigers look lost on the road
Richmond suffered their fourth loss of the 2018 season on Saturday night, defeated by Greater Western Sydney in New South Wales by two points.

As a consequence of said loss, the supposed daylight separating the Tigers from the remainder of the competition has been shredded – allowing the yellow and black to hold top seed but now share premiership points with West Coast.

The Tigers’ loss to the Giants marked four consecutive losses interstate in 2018, with the reigning champs yet to win a game outside of Victoria.

The first interstate defeat came in Round 2 (Adelaide by 36 points), the second in Round 9 (West Coast by 47 points), the third in Round 12 (Port Adelaide by 14 points) – and now we have GWS.

Each loss is easy to dismiss in a vacuum.

Adelaide was a grand final rematch and the Crows got it done in front of a home crowd. It’s difficult to read much of anything in the first five rounds. West Coast were deserved winners against a Richmond side that had never played at Optus Stadium before. Port Adelaide a loss of just two goals against a side missing Dustin Martin, Bachar Houli, Dion Prestia and Jack Graham. The Giants loss was by less than a goal. Jason Castagna kicked five behinds. Five! And it was less than a goal.

Like I said – easy to dismiss. But when all four losses come together, they form a mighty, observable trend. Richmond is finding it difficult to seal the deal away from home.

Trends like this, so easy to spot, could rob the Tigers of their confidence and in the event that they are forced to play interstate during the finals, this trend will weigh heavily on the minds of the team’s youngest players.

Richmond plays one more game outside of Victoria this season – the Gold Coast Suns at Metricon Stadium in Round 21.

Photo by Quinn Rooney/Getty Images

Eagles bid farewell to The queen piece
West Coast recorded one of their most important wins of the season on Sunday, defeating Collingwood by 35 points at the MCG.

The win came at a great cost however, with ruck Nic Naitanui tearing his anterior cruciate ligament for a second time in three years, likely sidelining him for at least 12 months and without a shadow of a doubt scrubbing him from contention for this year’s finals campaign.

Despite his status as on the rebound from an injury that deprived him of playing for 19 months, Naitanui has been central to the Eagles’ march up the ladder. Naitanui has been paired with Scott Lycett all season and is averaging more than 30 hitouts a game to go with 4.3 tackles, 3.7 clearances and plenty of other intangible offerings.

Together, Naitanui and Lycett formed the competition’s most fearsome ruck combination. Without Naitanui, it’s difficult to envision West Coast winning the premiership.

Naitanui’s five-year contract with the Eagles expires at the end of next season. With plenty of long months of rehabilitation ahead, it’s looking more and more like it’s going to be remembered as a career of ‘what could have been’.

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Do Collingwood really stack up?
Despite Collingwood’s status as the footy world’s long-loathed tyrant, a huge percentage of onlookers have enjoyed their shock rise to relevance in 2018.

Heading into this season, senior coach Nathan Buckley was a marked man, the club sliding further down the ladder in each season he’s been in charge.

But this year, the Pies have rocketed up to third on the ladder, winning 11 matches and losing just five.

Who doesn’t love a bit of an underdog?

One of those losses came on Sunday – getting done in by a comfortable margin by the previously discussed West Coast, by 35 points.

The other losses? Hawthorn by 34 points in Round 1, GWS by 16 points in Round 2, Richmond by 43 points in Round 6, and Geelong by 21 points in Round 8.

The common theme is that these teams are top-of-the-table squads – Richmond (first), West Coast (second), Greater Western Sydney (seventh), Geelong (eighth) and Hawthorn (tenth) – pushing for not only a spot in the finals but also a premiership.

The Pies have dropped the ball five times against sides they’ll need to be capable of rolling come September. But, for now, it’s not worth holding that against them. After all, they’ve only lost one more match than Richmond and West Coast – the only sides higher on the ladder.

Collingwood face a handful more finals fancies as the home-and-away season draws to a conclusion.

First North Melbourne (Round 18), then Richmond (Round 19), Sydney (Round 20) and Port Adelaide (Round 22).

If Buckley’s boys are serious about going all the way in 2018, they need to win the majority of these encounters.

The Crowd Says:

2018-07-21T01:47:26+00:00

BoB

Guest


With a bit of guts and determination Magpies will go well pie supporter for 50y never wavered

2018-07-18T11:00:37+00:00

Pieman

Guest


Good article...reality is pies have proved very little...my prediction is they wont win majority of those games you mentioned. Next year yhey will chase a ready made full forward to buy a finals series...8th year and still wont have it together. Most decent coaches would have won a flag by now...cant wait for excuses when pies scrape into finals....injuries etc the usual rubbish. West Coast lost nic nat early but many dont seem to remember that and still won by 6 goals. At MCG !!!

2018-07-18T09:59:16+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Dunno about The Gov to Freo. Tommy Lynch might be Freo's target. Purple and white...a destination guernsey.

2018-07-18T09:54:54+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


You have to face a Purple Pulverizing too.

2018-07-18T06:33:42+00:00

gameofmarks

Roar Guru


I wouldn't be surprised if WCE win every game from here. They showed great maturity, as a side with a lot of first and second year players, to pare back the Pies lead in the first quarter. Then to outscore Collingwood 12 goals 12 to 5 goals 9 in the next three quarters was a massive sign the side is growing in confidence. With Barrass and Sheed to come back into the side, and then maybe a third Brayshaw to debut in a couple of weeks against Freo, they should be able to lock in a top 2 finish. Hamish Brayshaw looks like he is going to be a gun. Put in a good performance on the weekend in the WAFL and should be good to go ina couple of weeks. Would be good to see he debut against his younger brother in the midfield in a couple of weeks. Sheed is really lighting it up in the WAFL and it will be hard for Simpson to leave him out this week. The only problem is who to drop.

2018-07-18T04:19:40+00:00

Jungle Jim

Guest


What a tardy piece of journalism re Nicnat. "It's difficult to envision WC winning the premiership" (without him)? Difficult if you have limited vision or understanding of the game and the WC team! Prey on the negatives and make a nothing story from it.

2018-07-18T03:53:45+00:00

Nigel Dias

Guest


Peter, agreed Mcgovern, Kennedy, Darling, Yeo are irreplaceable. As we saw when Kennedy and Darling were out of the team we went from averaging 100 points a game to 63 points a game

2018-07-18T01:37:09+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


WCE, after being at the game McGovern is surely the key signing. He is a freak and would be a massive loss for the club if he does indeed go to Freo.

2018-07-18T01:36:07+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Will be devastating to miss the finals from here Doran. What a crucial game this week after the bad WCE loss. I know we didn't have Cox plus a host of missing injured players but then we should have capitalised when Nic Nat (sadly) went down, instead it was the turning point for their form reversal.

2018-07-18T01:30:24+00:00

WCE

Roar Rookie


as already mentioned by a few other reads, WCE would be strengthened with NN's presence that's no question and its a massive loss, however, Lycett has become a real asset to the club and together with Vardy I'm sure the ruck area can be compensated. The bull work that NN does can be taken up by Ah Chee, Sheeds, Venables etc.. I admit Nic's a massive loss but we have to find a way without him which I'm sure we can.

2018-07-18T00:58:06+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Apparently Seano he was told by the Dees they had no pace for him moving forward. Pies wanted to move on premiership player Nathan Brown who was solid but a quiet personality. They needed leadership support for Howe in defence and ironically we ended up with two defence leaders both from Melbourne. Dunn also had the advantage over Brown of his huge clearing kick. Dunn is one of my favourite players at the Pies and will continue with the Pies next year.

2018-07-18T00:57:49+00:00

peter chrisp

Guest


Doran same as me have been 4 ages the next 4 games are crucial to our top 4-8 aspirations North Richmond Sydney & Port this will test us for sure and it did not surprise me the loss against West Coast should be quite interesting the next 6 weeks

2018-07-18T00:53:21+00:00

peter chrisp

Guest


Nick Nat is a great loss but there are always players in each club that can replace certain players and as you say it's not a one man team never has and never will be, a number of players have certain impacts in each team but either way can step up to the plate could not agree more Nigel

2018-07-18T00:46:39+00:00

Doran Smith

Roar Guru


I am a Pies supporter, but I am worried we can still miss the finals if we lose this week. If we win we can still make top 4; that’s how tight the competition is; talk about the state of the game; it’s such a tight ladder it’s interesting to see how it will finish.

2018-07-18T00:30:36+00:00

Seano

Roar Rookie


Does anyone else wonder how Lynden Dunn has been so good at the pies but couldn’t get a game at Melbourne? I don’t like Collingwood but I was genuinely sad to see him get injured, what a great battler!

2018-07-17T23:03:18+00:00

Nigel

Guest


We can win the flag without Nic Nat he is one player and does not make the team. Yes it hurts but to sugggest that we are a one man team is ridiculous.

2018-07-17T23:01:51+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Yeah rounds 17-20 were always going to be the test for the Pies, so far 0-1, not a great start.

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