Ten years ago the FFA and K-Rudd shared a dream

By Munro Mike / Roar Rookie

Ten years ago Kevin Rudd was Prime Minister, having swept to power in the ‘Kevin Oh-Seven’ campaign.

We’ve seen a fair turnover since then that somewhat rivals Italy. However back in 2008 there was a particular sporting ‘vision’ for the future that was to prove a hard sell. The Football Federation Australia had engaged the Australian Government to support a bid to host the 2018 Association Football World Cup.

The preliminary bid unveiling occurred in late February in 2008. PM Rudd would “..unveil an audacious campaign” – at that point to host the 2018 Cup where England were deemed the favourites.

At the time it was reported that the UK were spending between $25 million and $32 million on its bid.

Given that Australia is arguably the world’s most competitive domestic football market, with four professional codes along with an much broader sporting landscape – including cricket, tennis, motor racing, swimming, horse racing – it would be naïve to imagine that any one sport exists in a ‘vacuum’.

And so – even at this point in time there was a ‘reaction’. Caroline Wilson in the The Age newspaper reported ‘World Cup Bid will hasten AFL’s move on Sydney’.

Within days Jacquelin Magnay in the Sydney Morning Herald reported “FFA to meet rival codes to build support for Cup bid”.

Everyone wanted to know how it would all work. It was reported that “..some FFA insiders don’t believe they require a nod of approval from rival codes, the Rudd Government wants to be able to sell its involvement throughout the electorate and avoid other sporting codes undermining the big.”

The ill-fated Come Play campaign (AP Photo/Rob Griffith)

As AFL spokesman Patrick Keane referenced, the AFL had worked previously to accommodate major events “..like the Olympics, the Commonwealth Games…..but we aren’t quite sure what they want or expect of us.”

What was clear was that due to the fragmented nature of the Australian electorate when it comes to the football codes – for the Federal Government to hitch its wagon to the FFA horse at the expense of the other three and other sports more broadly might be, well, electoral suicide.

So – the PR game would begin.

Playing the game first was the late Michael Cockerill in the SMH.

“Football finds a powerful friend, and rivals are quaking in their boots” was published March 19. His lead “Football got dudded at the 2000 Olympics”.

His main assertion that only the $27-million redevelopment of Adelaide’s Hindmarsh Stadium was to show for the presence of association football at the 2000 Olympics: “..the only time tax dollars have been spent on building a football-specific stadium anywhere in Australia”.

Of course – one can’t help but feel he’d missed the point.

Australia is all about multi-purpose and the Olympics had highlighted this.

Large oval arenas hosting athletics, opening/closing ceremonies, and the soccer matches.

Cockerill at least felt that the even if Australia missed out in the short term that “..any proposals that don’t meet FIFA requirements, and don’t take football into account, won’t be benefitting from the public purse”. Already this fledgling bid was seen as the dawning of a bright new future.

Come May of 2008 – Federal Government budget time – and Cockerill crowed “The numbers game is looking good for football, much to the frustration of rival sports”, as Rudd came good on his $32 million four-year pledge to the FFA.

Conversely, the ARU and NRL saw previous Howard administration promises ‘broken’ by the new political regime. Cockerill put it this way “..but right now football is enjoying leading the race. For once.”

2008 though was also the year of the GFC – the Global Financial Crisis.

The news cycles in the sporting sense were refocussed on the winter codes – the NRL and AFL. But come the other side of the footy finals, after Bathurst and before the pointy end of the Spring Racing Carnival we saw an article from WA Today “No new stadium? We understand, says AFL”.

The project at risk was the proposed $1.1-billion new sports stadium in Perth.

The GFC had perhaps scuppered thoughts of a too great a commitment to new spending on new stadia.

The bid as reported by ABC News in November would be dependent upon “Rival codes likely to kick in venues for World Cup”.

At this time the AFL’s demand for stadia in season in Melbourne was “looming as the biggest problem”.

Although a reported meeting that week between the AFL and FFA was ‘understood’ to have agreed on some possible compromises, it was asserted at this time that the AFL would most likely allow World Cup matches at the MCG but retain Docklands for its home and away matches.

Add to that, the new (at that time yet to be completed) 32,000 seat rectangular stadium would be “beefed up in capacity to the 40,000 level it needs to fulfil World Cup regulations.”

That seemed pretty neat.

Adelaide and Perth were the issues at this time – new stadia – as WA Today explored further on December 10.

A senior marketing academic from RMIT University suggested FIFA’s requirements of between nine and 12 stadia and a preference against cities having two stadiums meant that Adelaide and Perth became very import.

Dr Constantino Stavros asserted “There is no way around that.”

Cockerill revisited the topic on December 11 with “Can Australia really host the 2018 World Cup?”.

Quoting then FFA CEO Ben Buckley, it was pointed out that the FFA had already had discussions with the AFL, NRL and ARU and outlined a ‘broad strategy of our plan’ and would keep the other codes fully consulted along the way.

“I can only say that the feedback we’ve got so far has been nothing but positive.”

From that position – what could possibly go wrong?

Oh – the last word for 2008 to Frank Lowy was to reflect that the “FFA has got no money”. The bid budget was $45 million as provided by the Federal Government.

Sir Frank Lowy (AAP Image/Danny Casey)

Ten years on, we all know what happened to the World Cup bid (or do we?)

Despite this Adelaide and Perth have the bright shiny stadiums that were seen as perhaps the biggest stumbling blocks. The other codes would be fine. As for Kevin Rudd; he got knifed by his own party. The Liberals were clear they would never resort to such internal ructions.

He came back, got kicked out by the electorate and never did get the UN top job.

After Russia (and not England) hosted the 2018 FIFA WC fans of the ‘World Game’ can look forward to the highly anticipated Qatar offering in 2022 that, well, didn’t quite tick the FIFA boxes nor meet the expectation of Dr Stavros.

Backed by the QSI (Qatar Sport Investments), the Qatar bid has held firm despite taking some scalps along the way – due to the FIFA ‘process’. A bid budget of $45 million seemed just to much like taking a knife to a gun fight – once the dust had settled.

The Crowd Says:

AUTHOR

2018-09-23T09:27:02+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


#Chris NO sport is obliged to any other sport. If we agree upon that as a starting point then that is enough for today. I just ask that you apportion blame or rampant naivity where it fits. Not just where you or I would prefer to place it. I'd hope 10 years on we look back with a tad more pragamatism and rationality than perhaps at the time. The irony though is - for the 2009 events - 'battlefield' Melbourne was seemingly chosen (by whom? for what end?). There's a couple of $64 million questions I'd love to ask of messers Buckley, Lowy, Demetriou, Gallop.

2018-09-22T04:37:28+00:00

chris

Guest


Yes we are all biased. You are biased in thinking the AFL are not insecure and attempt to derail all other sports with their bully tactics. Works in Melbourne - not so much in Sydney and Brisbane. Don't forget to mention that Demetriou said something along the lines that the AFL would support the WC bid if they played a WC finals match as a curtain raiser to an AFL match.

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2018-09-22T01:31:13+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


#Chris I point out again - this article is 2008 ONLY. What you're referring to is the 2009 events. And I'll explore that in the next article (so again, please come along with me on that ride). The Melb Rectangular Stadium was capped not at all because of the AFL (why would they even care??). Remember - it was originally meant to be about 20K, and the Storm were fine with that. Victory pushed for 30K. They got that. The foundations were built to go beyond 40K if ever required (and this is an important point to keep in mind when reviewing the 2009 events). The 30K cap though was a Govt deal with the private developers/investors running Docklands stadium. And at that time that was NOT the AFL and wouldn't be until 2025 unless (as is the case now) bought out early. What you have just exhibited is your own anti-AFL bias - adding to a narrative elements that just doesn't exist.

2018-09-21T23:32:22+00:00

chris

Guest


Mike I have been around long enough to know the bias that exists in this country re football. It's like a siege mentality to keep the enemy away from the gates. In Sydney, league and football co-exist relatively harmoniously. Not so harmonious with the insecure AFL and the bubble they exist in, in the southern states. What was reported in the media at the time was Demetriou (AFL) being very obstructionist to FFA's bid. Wasnt Melbournes rectangular stadium capped at 30k capacity because the almighty AFL couldnt use it? Your piece makes it out that after a rocky beginning the AFL came to the party and it was all happy days after that. Thats rot and white washing the AFL's belligerence on the World Cup bid is what the gist of your article has done.

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2018-09-21T06:37:38+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


#chris I think you've got the wrong end of the stick there. First - it's neither positive nor negative. It is what it was - as reported across a variety of outlets. Second - for the year of 2008 the other codes hadn't as yet played any part in proceedings. You're jumping ahead (and I plan to do a 2009 and 2010 review pieces - it was a significant time in Australian sports and cross code relationships). However - by the end of 2008 the other codes had 'said the right things' publicly. The FFA had generally done so also. As I glibly observed - what could possibly go wrong. Effectively at this point - nothing had had to be done - so - to the end of 2008 everyone WAS an innocent bystander. I'm not passing judgement (and certainly not at this stage). But you are. (have you ever challenged your view by looking at all sides of the scenario? - if not, I'll give you the opportunity. Not to try to change your mind one way or another. No one comes out of it as the innocent bystander.)

2018-09-21T04:23:39+00:00

chris

Guest


All in all a positive piece on Australian football (not). Dredging up same old same old. And you paint AFL as an innocent bystander in all of this. Which they werent. Keep up the good work Mike!

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2018-09-21T04:04:30+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


#Chris I actually couldn't care less about Italian soccer players and whether or not Lucas Neill's tackle was or wasn't worthy of a penalty. re the Aussie Media - well - clearly I make no apologies about this article being a reflection of the media reporting of the news thread across the calendar year of 2008. That's the whole point. Sometimes it's interesting (apparently not to you...but if you remove the flippant reference to Italian Prime Ministers - then would you see the article differently??) to look back in time, (let's give that a name...."History"), and learn some lessons or reflect on what may or may not have happened through a different sliding door? or is that concept too foreign to you?? (how much have you traveled?)

2018-09-21T02:31:38+00:00

chris

Guest


Because you are just stereotypical of the usual b*gan aussie media. Im guessing you believe Italians are all divers and that Lucas Neills tackle was not a penalty.

2018-09-21T02:28:49+00:00

chris

Guest


the point Mike is that I was responding to a pest on here.

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2018-09-21T02:06:59+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


#chris And Chris - really - do tell - what's the point of this comment?

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2018-09-21T02:05:31+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


#chris What's the point you ask? I thought it's pretty obvious. It's a reflection on what was the relative calm before the storm of 2009 when, come December of that year in particular 'code wars' exploded in Australia. The simplest tacit question asked by my article is effectively "Could you see it coming?" With respect to the Italian reference - I'm sorry if that doesn't resonate with you however that's your lack of comprehension and my lack of explaining something that on face value to anyone (granted of my generation) should be somewhat obvious. Travelling? What's that got to do with it?

2018-09-21T00:17:09+00:00

chris

Guest


AFL is the butt of all joke in world sports.

2018-09-21T00:16:24+00:00

chris

Guest


pest

2018-09-21T00:06:48+00:00

Mister Football

Roar Guru


Italy is a bit of a basket case, and when it comes to their political institutions, they are the butt of all jokes amongst all OECD countries.

2018-09-20T23:28:57+00:00

chris

Guest


Was there a point to this article? Also, "We’ve seen a fair turnover since then that somewhat rivals Italy." You say that like we are some superior, advanced economy with a fully functioning govt etc etc whilst countries like Italy are not. Have you travelled much Mike?

2018-09-20T22:37:40+00:00

Buddy

Roar Rookie


State government rejected it for being late.......so shortsighted!

2018-09-20T06:43:42+00:00

Nick Symonds

Guest


"Too late though for the Government to back out of current plans/commitments I’d expect." - From the article: Bates Smart has shown the proposal to the Department of Premier and Cabinet but was told “it was too late.” The NSW government has commenced a design competition for the new stadium at Moore Park and works are due to begin in late 2018. - The NSW government might have said it's too late to change the plans but even if it takes a lot of paperwork I think that building a stadium over the rail yards will be worth any small hassle like that when it's for such a long term investment. It would actually make Sydney competitive with Melbourne for the first time when it comes to integrating sports infrastructure with public transport. That's something that any NSW government should want to do!

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2018-09-20T05:04:46+00:00

Munro Mike

Roar Rookie


Would it be an oval or a rectangle? Too late though for the Government to back out of current plans/commitments I'd expect. Adelaide Oval though has shown what a bold precinct redevelopment linked to stadia works in the shadow of the CBD can do.

2018-09-20T03:43:17+00:00

Nick Symonds

Guest


MODULAR STADIUMS - https://populous.com/full-experience-for-fractional-cost-the-modular-stadium [LINK ABOVE] San Diego: 9,500 seats for US$15 million, designed by Populous https://inproduction.net/products/seating/modular-stadiums/ http://www.cladglobal.com/CLADnews/architecture-design/Modular-stadium-sports-architecture-Bear-Stadiums-Rubner-Holzbau/334886 http://midfieldpress.com/2017/08/14/understanding-modular-stadiums-the-future-of-lower-division-soccer/

2018-09-20T03:37:26+00:00

Nick Symonds

Guest


NEWS: Bates Smart proposes stadium over rail yards at Sydney’s Central Station https://architectureau.com/articles/bates-smart-proposes-stadium-over-rail-yards-at-sydneys-central-station/ - 17 Sep 2018

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