I'd rather watch Carlton work hard than Collingwood coast

By Gordon P Smith / Roar Guru

Neither Gold Coast nor Melbourne look like world-beaters Saturday, and Sydney and Essendon showed a similar lack of polish on Friday night.

In the end Carlton was completely outclassed over the last few minutes by a Collingwood side that knew it was a cut above them and could simply flip the switch, as they did.

None of those five teams are going to do any damage in the finals if indeed any of them make it at all, but I’ll watch them play any day if they play as hard as they did this weekend.

Because what is it we’re looking for from our sports clubs, individuals, national teams or our own progeny playing youth sports? Effort!

What frustrates me more than anything is a lack of effort. It was much harder to watch Collingwood than it was Carlton, because you could tell the Blues were working hard. Sure, the Magpies were seven-goal favourites, so they figured they could play the game in second gear and still win, but guess what? It turns out they can’t beat these Blues in second gear; they had to turn Jordan de Goey and Jaidyn Stephenson and Scott Pendlebury loose to take the four points.

And while these Navy Blues are still 1-7, there’s a completely different sense about them – in fact it doesn’t seem as if there’s any team in the league that can be guaranteed to roll over for a supposed 46-point favourite this season. Nobody gets a walkover in any game.

Which is just how I like it.

Here are this week’s games.

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West Coast Eagles vs Melbourne Demons

Melbourne

West Coast

Outlook

Neither team makes me comfortable. The Eagles are not only average, but they’re unpredictably average both home and away. The Demons are terrible, but they’re 2-0 interstate. I’m taking the Eagles to win but Melbourne to cover, and then I’ll cover. (My eyes, that is.)

Dom Sheed of the Eagles (Michael Willson/AFL Media/Getty Images)

Collingwood Magpies vs St Kilda Saints

St Kilda

Collingwood

Outlook

Boy, I still think there’s life in these Saints, but the Pies learnt a lesson – I hope! – about taking an opponent for granted last Saturday and should put the hammer down as swiftly as they can manage. Take your cue from De Goey and Stephenson, boys, because the Saints will not go down in the fourth as Carlton did. Still, Collingwood plus the points.

Jordan De Goey (Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

Brisbane Lions vs Adelaide Crows

Adelaide

Brisbane

Outlook

Yeah, I hate to say it, but the Crows are better and they’re riding a four-game streak of proving it. Crows plus two goals, as much as I want to tip the Lions here.

Taylor Walker of the Crows (Daniel Kalisz/Getty Images)

Western Bulldogs vs Geelong Cats

Western Bulldogs

Geelong

Outlook

Geelong of course. Although I’d love to see Aaron Naughton find a niche in that stellar Geelong backline and grab another nine contested, let Marcus Bontempelli do what Marcus Bontempelli does and see if they can keep the pressure on the Cats for four quarters. Still, I’m taking Geelong and the points, because I don’t see that back six denting.

Tim Kelly and Gary Rohan of Geelong (Quinn Rooney/Getty Images)

Essendon Bombers vs Fremantle Dockers

Fremantle

Essendon

Outlook

I’m not sure what Bombers games they’re watching, but I don’t see Essendon as a better team than Fremantle right now. Unless the ninth-game switch is about to be flipped – and a one-season precedent isn’t all that reliable – I’ll take Fremantle outright. Home-field advantage hasn’t meant much to either team so far in 2019.

David Mundy of the Dockers (Paul Kane/Getty Images)

North Melbourne Kangaroos vs Sydney Swans

Sydney

North Melbourne

Outlook

Which team do I have more faith in? Honestly, Sydney, in the sense they’ve played eight games that have all been bottom-six level. North’s played six bad games with two ‘where did that come from?’ games against Adelaide and Carlton to account for their wins. Do we know when those will show up? No, but this is their first game in the fortress known as Blundstone Arena, and on that basis alone I’ll take the Kangaroos. And when the spread’s less than a goal, you might as well take the points too.

North Melbourne’s Ben Brown (Michael Dodge/Getty Images)

Gold Coast Suns vs Port Adelaide Power

Gold Coast

Port Adelaide

Outlook

I’m sorry, but this season I can’t take the cardiac Suns and bet in any way that expects something besides the kind of ending we got against Melbourne last weekend. Port to win but Suns somehow cover. It’s not like Port’s consistently good or anything like that.

Paddy Ryder of the Power (Will Russell/AFL Photos/Getty Images)

Richmond Tigers vs Hawthorn Hawks

Hawthorn

Richmond

Outlook

Hawthorn has the best coach of the 21st century. Unfortunately he’s right when he says he has a “middle-of-the-road” team – they’ve had two highly mediocre wins against possibly the two worst teams in Carlton and North and two wins where they got lucky their opponents were atrocious that day in Adelaide and GWS. (Prove me wrong.) Meanwhile, Richmond’s winning with back-ups that would’ve been starting all along for the Hawks. Richmond covers easily.

Tom Lynch of the Tigers (Dylan Burns/AFL Photos/Getty Images)

Greater Western Sydney Giants vs Carlton Blues

Carlton

Greater Western Sydney

Outlook

The Giants come up with stinker games like last week’s more often than any other good side does. However, they never emit odours like that twice in a row unless there’s something fundamentally wrong. expect Jeremy Cameron to kick a bag and make up for lost time in the Coleman race while the Giants cover by late third quarter.

Last week

Oddsmakers: six from nine last week, 43 from 72 overall.
ELO-Following Football: seven from, 46 from 72 overall.
Percentage/home-field advantage system: This managed a measly four from nine and fell to 38 from 72 for the season.

The Buffalo didn’t make up any ground either, hitting only four from nine and sitting at just 32 for the year, so if you’re trusting me for betting advice, you’ll get what you’ve paid for. Gamble more responsibly than that, please!

The Crowd Says:

2019-05-17T04:08:55+00:00

User

Roar Rookie


Percentage is important but imo wins are the most important, if percentage was more important then Carlton aren't that far of a log jam of teams 3rd-7th which though they've naturally improved is also a complete fallacy to say they are that good because of percentage. I hope that makes sense.

AUTHOR

2019-05-16T23:58:57+00:00

Gordon P Smith

Roar Guru


OK, if you two are done... TBH, I pay more attention to the percentage than I do the records at this stage. To me, West Coast is 12th in the league, for purposes of comparing the relative strengths of teams through the season (without going into the detailed breakdown of who they've played and not played so far). Mind you, having five wins out of the first eight is a valuable commodity. But their play hasn't inspired confidence that they'll get five out of their next eight games. (Our ELO numbers have them sixth, which seems high to me; the combination rating also has them sixth, up two spots from last week.)

2019-05-16T04:26:31+00:00

Fat Toad

Roar Rookie


Ho Col, Great stat. I have been slowly entering data into a spread sheet to do a rating like that for last season and see if I could do a program for it to do a week by week analysis for it this year. Its not happened yet, but thanks.

2019-05-15T11:35:43+00:00

User

Roar Rookie


At the moment yes they are but the point I was making in regards to what was written within needed that to be broken down some more. I do realise wce are seventh due percentage but do have the se amount of victories as the third placed Adelaide which is quite important to consider.

2019-05-15T11:31:25+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


On the ladder that matters they are 7th, you can't change that fact.

2019-05-15T11:26:54+00:00

User

Roar Rookie


Fair enough and I won't skip the path of I'm superior that you're so fond of traversing, actually you show more trump like traits than myself, I'm certain you'd get the ag to try and keep you from facing Congress:) win wise wce is equal third and you can't change that fact :) but keep trying.

2019-05-15T11:19:38+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


That’s fine, I’ll just call them the 12th place Eagles because that’s where they rank percentage wise and that suits my narrative. Or perhaps the 16th placed Eagles based on Points for.

2019-05-15T10:31:24+00:00

User

Roar Rookie


Shall we employ Mueller to investigate me? We are talking footy, spinning a yarn, possibly engaging in Australian like activities and it does tend to include spinning things to suit your narrative :) I'm comfortable with it you keep arguing the pointless all you like.

2019-05-15T10:17:30+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


You and Trump would make fine bedfellows

2019-05-15T09:10:06+00:00

User

Roar Rookie


:) I can spin it how I want to as I was making my point- emphasis on my, just like you're allowed to argue something that is pointless to give yourself some misguided superiority, your not alot of fun at parties I'm guessing :) toodles

2019-05-15T09:01:31+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


And as I said choosing what you want to suit your narrative rather than the actual truth

2019-05-15T08:59:59+00:00

User

Roar Rookie


Nah I can read it but as I said above to suit my point I chose to highlight the W column, something you can keep arguing about or hop a long Cassidy because my point is valid to what was said in the article :) toodles

2019-05-15T08:53:52+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


You seem unable to read the column that has POS above it. It is also the default sorting of the ladder.

2019-05-15T08:51:16+00:00

User

Roar Rookie


You seem to be unable to read that column which has a W above it, keep trying you'll manage to get there.

2019-05-15T08:46:53+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


I look at the ladder and it shows WC sits 7th not 'equal 3rd' ... thought that was pretty simple, straight forward, accurate and honest.

2019-05-15T08:22:09+00:00

User

Roar Rookie


No because if you use wins as the metric of choice then even you can see wce are equal with third placed Adelaide, again I'm quite shocked you are unable to see this as it's there and it's on the rather basic side to understand, but cheers on corrections you didn't need bother with :)

2019-05-15T08:17:21+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


So you’re basically making it up to suit your narrative ... got it.

2019-05-15T07:48:46+00:00

User

Roar Rookie


But for the sake of my point I chose to focus on the metric that puts us at equal third, not a concept that was needing explaining I would've thought :)

2019-05-15T07:19:37+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Yes by both - which puts you seventh

2019-05-15T04:54:16+00:00

User

Roar Rookie


Why not, we'd still be premiers.

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