The existential threat to Melbourne City

By The Crowd / Roar Guru

When the A-League first started, Melbourne Victory were the only team in the city, but since then two more sides have been added and Melbourne City could be in peril.

As the first A-League team in Melbourne, Victory had a five-year head start and quickly drew large crowds – soon becoming the best-supported club in Australia. This success was followed by calls for a second team to create a derby.

The next team to join was Melbourne Heart. The resulting Melbourne Derby was an instant success, but the problems for Heart began as soon as they were founded in 2009. Playing out of the same stadium as Victory and lacking any sense of identity, they struggled to attract fans outside of the derbies and this was matched by their struggles on-field.

After several years of poor results and poor crowds, Heart were taken over by City Football Group and rebranded as Melbourne City. As well as a change of name, the new owners also went about changing their kit to a shade of light blue – similar to Sydney FC.

Unfortunately, this change means City will never be able to represent Melbourne when they basically look like Sydney.

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Imagine if a club like Girondins de Bordeaux took over Sydney FC and changed their colours to navy blue with a white chevron – would their fans stay with them? The absurd change of colours by CFG alienated a number of former Heart fans, who drifted away from the ‘Melburnian smurfians’ and their subsequent slide in crowd numbers was in large part a result of this.

But the club’s problems have become even more complicated with the introduction of Melbourne’s third team, Western United.

The new club are trying to emulate Western Sydney. Like the Wanderers, they went to their supporters to decide their name and colours and they also represent a clearly defined geographic area.

On top of that, they are also in the process of building their own football-specific stadium, which they won’t have to share with a rival club. So far, these simple things are paying dividends.

Western United have announced on social media that they now have over 4000 members, which puts them hot on the heels of Wellington Phoenix and the Central Coast Mariners, who have 4489 and 5349 members respectively. It’s still a way to go to catch City’s 8262 members, but that figure could actually be lower if some of those have now defected to the new side.

When it comes to attendance figures, City average 6462 compared to 6163 for Western United. The derby may have boosted the latter’s numbers, but in Round 5, City drew 5547 compared to 4558 for Western United.

For a top-placed side that’s been around for ten years now, City’s numbers look terrible. The way things are going, Western United could actually displace City as the second-best supported club in Melbourne, which could then lead to more of their fans walking away.

Yet things could get even worse for City as the A-League continues to expand. The Team 11 bid are still around and are one of the top contenders for the next round of expansion, with a series of strong points in their favour.

The region they seek to represent includes Dandenong, Casey, Cardinia, Mornington Peninsula, Frankston and Monash, as well as the Gippsland region. These have a combined population of 1.5 million people, making it larger than the population of Adelaide.

The area is highly multicultural, with two-thirds of all residents born overseas and coming from 160 different nations, most of which have football as their number one sport. It’s also working class, with a lot of social disadvantage thrown in, with incomes half the national average and an unemployment rate that is over double, which has led to high crime rates.

It also has an industrial identity with over 92,000 people employed in the manufacturing sector, making it the largest manufacturing zone in Australia and contributing $66.1 billion to gross regional product.

To top it all off, the Casey Football Centre of Excellence now has four pitches complete, and the plan is for a rectangular 8000-seat mini stadium to be be built at the same site for temporary use while their main stadium is constructed next to Dandenong Station. This would have an initial capacity of 12,000 but with the ability to expand later to 20,000.

With geographic separation from the CBD, demographics conducive to football culture, close access to rail and 4400 parking spaces from their proposed stadium – as well as a distinct, working-class and industrial identity – Dandenong are a formidable bid.

Victory wouldn’t be too fussed about Western United or even Dandenong coming in when they already have a clear identity and an established base. But it could be a different matter for City, and if they end up becoming only the fourth-best supported team in Melbourne, fans could walk.

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City have never had it easy – but when their biggest unique selling point of being the only team to have a derby with Victory is now gone, there’s much less reason for fans to follow them.

Perhaps the biggest question is how CFG will react. Will they try and stick it out at AAMI Park and do nothing, or will they move to a new location?

There has been speculation that Melbourne City could one day build their own stadium and it’s hard to think of a better place than Dandenong. For Team 11 however, the biggest hurdle might be their financial backing. So, with City potentially needing a location to build a stadium and with Team 11 needing financial support, perhaps there could be common ground for a merger.

It’s hard to say what the future has in store for Melbourne City, but they are potentially facing an existential threat as the A-League expands and new clubs begin to take off.

The Crowd Says:

2019-11-14T22:26:06+00:00

Fadida

Roar Rookie


Again, we are talking currently. MV have no youth, Lauton aside. MC are playing half a dozen.

2019-11-14T19:43:06+00:00

Stevo

Roar Rookie


Sorry for this late reply but as for the future of the club, under CFG, their system of satellite clubs around the world are there as feeder clubs. These smaller clubs revolve around the focus of CFG which is Manchester City FC. My 'gripe' with CFG is that their view of football as a global business run from corporate HQ in Manchester and Abu Dhabi has overtones of a colonialist mentality, at least that's the way they approached the take over of Melbourne Heart. Coming in and stripping a team's colours is guaranteed to p!ss supporters - and it did. Melbourne City will continue no doubt and this season at least, the appointment of Erick Mombaerts and seeing the younger brigade come through is creating a bit of excitement. Compare that with the almost 'chaos' under Wazza and the public falling out he had with star players and at least this season we can focus on getting the football right.

2019-11-14T09:17:22+00:00

Anonymous

Guest


Well some should ask about parking at MOPT venues, access to public transport & scheduling of matches due to Foxtel as to why people don't attend matches at Aami Park. Stop treating fans & members as cash cows & offer incentives to attend the venue. Noone likes to see a 30000 seat stadium mostly empty. Never mind heavy handed tactics by security staff as a turn off to return. Maybe it's more than the team but rather the match experience that's at fault!

2019-11-14T07:04:35+00:00

Football is Life

Roar Rookie


Oh and an A-League title might just make a wee bit of a difference. I hope they give to Sydney

2019-11-14T07:01:06+00:00

Football is Life

Roar Rookie


Stevo You have nailed it mate. What do we have to do to get some positive commentary. A-League crowds are good do far this season, all teams are competitive we have some great quality internationals across the league. What about the Matildas 20, 000 at the Chile game and what about that pay deal, the girls now have a serious reason to play football and watch the big names come to the W-League. It all vontributes9 to a stronger football

2019-11-14T03:44:45+00:00

Micko

Roar Rookie


As long as those arabs keep sinking their oil money in!

2019-11-14T02:49:09+00:00

fabian gulino

Roar Rookie


disagree AR melb city are doing ok for now.

2019-11-14T02:47:44+00:00

fabian gulino

Roar Rookie


Melbourne city are doing fine fo now.

2019-11-14T02:47:11+00:00

fabian gulino

Roar Rookie


a very silly comment

2019-11-14T00:26:13+00:00

Nemesis

Guest


But you've asserted City have a great Youth Programme. Deng, Theoharous, Pasquali, Waring, Nigro, Jeggo, etc etc all were in the MVFC youth system well after City had their youth system. So, who are the great City youth who've taken the step up?

2019-11-13T23:44:43+00:00

Nemesis

Guest


If MelbCity & ManCity are plastic toys, what does that make: AFL Dockers, AFL Suns, AFL Giants, AFL Swans, AFL Crows, AFL Lions? They're all owed & created by central sporting bodies. Many are owned by the same organisation that runs the sport of Aussie Rules & runs the AFL competition. And all 18 AFL franchises, colours, badge, branding, IP are all owned by the one organisation that runs the sport & runs the competition. Disposable plastic outlets with operations that can be transferred interstate or overseas when the franchisor owner thinks the franchisee's metrics aren't satisfactory.

2019-11-13T23:34:03+00:00

Micko

Roar Rookie


England has 92 professional teams...pretty hard to be original. Heart were original for the A League.

2019-11-13T23:08:34+00:00

AR

Guest


Hang on...to clarify - the fans themselves are not a plastic toy. But the franchise they follow absolutely is. A big, top-selling, shiny, very expensive toy. Same w Melb City, except that is a cheaply made bargain-basement plastic toy.

2019-11-13T22:10:35+00:00

Fadida

Roar Rookie


Football is played in summer to align with the international calendar. Not a problem for AFL! All clubs are founded because of a personal interest. Old clubs are no different. The reason they were founded gets lost over time

2019-11-13T22:07:22+00:00

Fadida

Roar Rookie


Give them time. They are 19/20

2019-11-13T22:06:36+00:00

Fadida

Roar Rookie


Who gets them "confused"? Do fans of Stoke, Brentford and Sunderland get confused because they have red/white stripes?

2019-11-13T21:08:05+00:00

Tigranes

Guest


Micko I thought Melbourne Heart were supposed to be differentiated on their style of football to appeal to Europeans? In any event, I thought it was sad that Melbourne City killed off the identity of Melbourne Heart. I guess existing Manchester City fan in Austealia would support Melbourne City....there's a ready fan base.

2019-11-13T10:55:38+00:00

Micko

Roar Rookie


The difference is soccer is their national sport, you realise that? The A League is played over summer to get away from the other football codes. The Victory already united fans for a new neutral/non-ethnically aligned team for Melbourne in the new league which started in 2004. What the hell did the "Melbourne Heart" offer in Melbourne as a point of difference to Melbourne Victory? Literally nothing! The WSW offer a natural geographical difference. Those clubs you mention are parts of their community: literally founded by locals as grassroots clubs, not some top-down corporate thing like here in Australia.

2019-11-13T09:43:46+00:00

Fadida

Roar Rookie


You realise when they started out there was no history don't you? That's kind of the point

2019-11-13T09:43:40+00:00

Micko

Roar Rookie


Never understood why petty Man. City owners forced the jersey/colours change since they were unique and looked good. Why be confused as another sky blue team in the A League?

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