When we were kings: Is there still room for rugby’s Quade Coopers?

By Nicholas Bishop / Expert

It is an age-old question argued over by rugby followers across the world, sitting in front of their pints of ale and pounding their fists on oak tables, as the flames of an open hearth lick the pub walls behind them: who do we want running our game from the pivotal number 10 position? The idealist or the pragmatist? The magician or the navigator? The cavalier or the roundhead?

Although the argument goes on, it has lost some of its vivid colours in the professional era. The great debates between Mark Ella and Michael Lynagh in Australia, Stuart Barnes and Rob Andrew in England, and Carlos Spencer and Andrew Mehrtens in New Zealand have lost some of their bloom as the selection battle has been resolved relentlessly in favour of the pragmatist.

In recent times, Danny Cipriani has found himself out in the wilderness in favour of either Owen Farrell or George Ford with England, and even in the home where all rugby romantics go to die – Wales – the roundhead has been firmly in the ascendant via the choice of Dan Biggar.

Only in Scotland does the cavalier survive, although even here he (in the shape of Finn Russell) has been cast out by the coach who nurtured his professional development, Glasgow’s Gregor Townsend.

Finn Russell. (Photo by Stu Forster/Getty Images)

In Australia, the same great battle has been fought out for many years between Bernard Foley and Quade Cooper, at least up until the 2019 World Cup. As Cooper’s star faded in the Michael Cheika era, so Foley eventually matched Quade’s total of 70 national caps, and it took him three fewer seasons in gold to do it.

Coaches love consistency, and they love to know exactly what they can expect from each one of their players. That is how they predict outcomes, and adding x-factor to the mix can be a volatile experiment. X-factor players tend to sharpen the ups and downs on the risk-reward seesaw, and that does not do many coaching careers – or nervous dispositions – a lot of good in the long run.

Even the stand-off half with perhaps the most extravagant natural gifts of all – Mark Ella – provoked controversy during his four years and 25 caps as a Wallaby between 1980 and 1984.

Ella started at number 10 for the Wallabies in their first Bledisloe Cup series win for 31 years in 1980, but he was also picked in the series defeats against the All Blacks in 1982 and 1984. By 1986 the realist Michael Lynagh was at the helm, as the Wallabies won the cup back again.

Mark Ella’s unusual, remarkable array of talents can be viewed on this highlight reel:

With Ella standing no more than five to seven metres from his halfback and frequently passing short outside, the Australian backline attacks of the early ’80s were both straight and condensed. First phase rarely moved much beyond the far post before either the openside winger received the ball or the break was made inside him.

Half of the field still remained available for support play and second touches within the same sequence, and in this aspect Ella was quite literally untouchable. The reel contains no less than six scoring second touches within the same move by the Wallaby number 10, with another five threats of second touch causing fatal uncertainty in the defence.

It was no accident Ella was at his magical best when there was a strategist to do the navigating (and goal-kicking) alongside him. The Wallabies of that era reached their peak on their 1984 Grand Slam tour of the home nations with Ella at 10 and Lynagh at 12. In the Bledisloe Cup losses of ’82 and ’84, Michael Hawker had been Ella’s foil at inside centre.

The magician needs a strong supporting cast around him, but when Cooper made his final bid to reclaim the number 10 jersey in 2016, his insurance policy was Foley, who had never played number 12 for the Waratahs or the Wallabies previously.

Quade Cooper. (AAP Image/Dean Lewins)

When Cooper was provided with the right support, his talent stood a greater chance of fulfilment. On the one occasion I was able to watch him in the flesh, against Wales in Cardiff back in 2013, that back-up came from the solid Christian Leali’ifano.

With Leali’ifano supplying the extra pair of eyes and hands and doing the goal-kicking, Quade was able to relax fully into his attacking game, and it was an electric sight to behold.

Like Ella, Cooper had an extraordinarily fine nose for space in the wide channels – both how to preserve it and how to exploit it:

Here is the classic Ella double touch in a very different professional scenario. Wales have the width of the field well-covered and there is nothing really on when Cooper executes the wrap play around James Slipper. But the second touch achieves an important aim – it repositions Quade opposite a Welsh forward (Sam Warburton) defending just inside his winger (George North).

By running at North and delaying the pass to the last moment, Cooper sucks both men in to create space for Joe Tomane down the right sideline.

Quade had already performed the same trick to light the fuse for Australia’s second try of the game. This time the shot is from overhead:

The left-arm fend keeps the inside defender away from the ball, and Cooper waits until the last man (North again) stops and turns in towards him before releasing another offload:

As this example illustrates, one of the most difficult aspects of defending Cooper was presented by his ability to anticipate opportunities from a long way off in the backfield, but only exploit them right in the teeth of the defence. This is probably why Robbie Deans first had the idea of deploying Cooper at fullback in certain situations at the time of the 2011 World Cup:

In the first instance, Cooper receives a kick and saunters towards the chasing line. On this occasion, he uses the threat of the offload to the winger to create space down the five-metre line for a break. He only makes his decision when he is in contact with the defence, not before.

In the second example, Cooper’s kick-off hangs up long enough in the air for Adam Ashley-Cooper to reclaim it above Halfpenny. Cooper is already running from halfway, picking his side to attack and gesturing for Folau to come up on the in-pass option underneath him:

It is a game of cat-and-mouse for the defence, educated guesswork to understand when Cooper will make his run to the line from behind that screen of forwards:

Quade is fully ten metres behind the line when Scott Fardy first bends the line on a short carry off Will Genia. After the dent has been made, he is suddenly at the line on next phase, squaring up the defenders in front of him and floating a long pass out towards Tomane on the right:

The game in Cardiff was also one of Quade’s best with the boot, whether it was stitching Halfpenny into coffin corner or finding space from his own half:

At the same time, the game finished with Cooper fluffing a drop-goal attempt (all along the ground from in front of the posts) and receiving a yellow card for an early tackle on a player without the ball. That left Australia hanging on for dear life in the final ten minutes for a 30-26 win earned the hard way.

Maybe the insurance policy for Cooper should have extended to his replacement by Foley in the last half hour.

Summary
With both Quade Cooper and Bernard Foley now finished with international rugby, there will be a new king at number 10 for the Wallabies in 2020. Whether he is a cavalier (Isaac Lucas or Noah Lolesio) or a roundhead (Matt Toomua or Will Harrison) remains to be seen.

The debate between the pragmatists and the idealists at stand-off will continue, if not quite as a fiercely as before. But a nagging feeling persists that Australia never quite extracted the best from Quade Cooper, despite his 70 international caps.

(Photo by Stu Forster/Getty Images)

Was he given the right support from inside centre, a strategist to complement his talents playing in the teeth of the defence? Was the policy of substitution ever as fully worked out as clearly as Wales formulated it in the 2019 Six Nations, with the risk-taker (Gareth Anscombe) starting the game, and the hard realist (Dan Biggar) finishing it off in the last 30 minutes?

Back in the 1980s, Mark Ella was at his best as the ball-in-hand magician with Michael Lynagh to do most of the other spade-work outside him. After he retired, ‘Noddy’ took over the reins in full.

Perhaps keeping that balance is the only way to resolve the historical debate over a pint in a new age. We do not want to lose the magic from our great game.

The Crowd Says:

2020-05-12T22:03:14+00:00

Rhys Bosley

Roar Pro


In reality James O’Connor was always a better all round footballer than Cooper, he could play any position from 10 to 15 at a professional level from age 17. His issues were entirely off field, once those were sorted it was obvious that we should get him back. Like I said on Cooper, he did do well in 2016 but reverted to his mistakes in 2017. Some people just have it in their makeup to not be able to handle pressure and that doesn’t change very quickly, unfortunately I think Quade was like that. He appeared to me to put himself under a lot of pressure trying to be everything to everyone and then fall in a heap when things went wrong and attracted attention.

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2020-05-12T14:48:48+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


:thumbup: :rugby:

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2020-05-12T06:18:55+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Yes I would agree with your last paragraph, there is tendency to rely too heavily on players who can offer star quality in some areas, while often being very ordinary in others. Often it can be the easiest thing to 'observe' as a media commentator or supporter, so it tends to get too much attention. The issue of getting that touch of genius in to your team somewhere, without making too many concessions, remains. As far as Quade Cooper goes, the essential disagreement I have with your initial post lies in your assessment of his 2016 comeback. I think he showed a lot more maturity and evenness of performance, and that made him worth persisting with in the latter part of the year. Other guys like James O'Connor have also made the same jump forward, and it's important to recognize it when they do.

2020-05-11T16:36:16+00:00

Rhys Bosley

Roar Pro


Somebody has gone to a lot of effort to make fun of a player's flaws in the video and I guess you could characterise that as pathetic, but it also underlines the serious point I am making. In international rugby teams just can't carry a player like that. The margins are so tight that one stuff up will lose a game and the best oppositions are adept at finding ways to minimise the impact of individual brilliance. The net effect is that teams can't rely too much on one talented and but flawed individual, it is week rounded team players who get us the big wins. An obsession with "stars", Cooper, Folau, Beale, even Pocock to an extent, has been a weakness in the Australian mindset for the last decade. We would do well to learn the lesson.

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2020-05-11T06:10:43+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Thanks Rhys. I stopped watching after the first 30 seconds - for a highlight (or lowlight) reel it's a pretty pathetic collection! The collection itself, that is.

2020-05-10T08:50:47+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


It was one of the podcasts, Nick, sorry. But from memory (and sorry if I am misrepresenting him), he was saying he didn’t think Harrison had done enough to earn all the praise he was getting from some.

2020-05-10T06:32:01+00:00

Rhys Bosley

Roar Pro


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBbbyjSgJ5w

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2020-05-10T06:02:31+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Glass half empty :happy:

2020-05-09T14:42:45+00:00

Rhys Bosley

Roar Pro


I do agree that Cooper was hard done by in 2016, but it doesn't change my overall appraisal of his career. He made another high tackle and copped a three game suspension with the Reds in 2017, it ruined any chance of them achieving a respectable result that season. He just couldn't get it together.

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2020-05-09T12:35:10+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Given the limited options trying an experienced playmaker in Foley at 12, instead of one of the raw recruits, wasn’t the worst idea that Cheika ever had. I recall highlighting at the time on The Roar how it wasn't working and the two had no feeling for the partnership at all, and it was certainly a mystery why Cheika hung on to Foley and dumped Cooper for end of year tour, because QC had played the better of the two and deserved another chance. Whatever it was, form was not the guideline.

2020-05-09T07:23:03+00:00

Rhys Bosley

Roar Pro


Just a correction, Cheika bought Cooper back from overseas in 2016, he did however give him a good run back from injury in 2015 after he had been out with injury for the entire 2014 season. It also needs to be remembered that Foley was only used at 12 in 2016 after Giteau, Toomua, Horne and Hunt were all ruled out with injury. Lealiifano was out because of his leukaemia and Beale was in England, so that only left Kerevi as the only player with any test experience at 12, while Hodge was capped but only on the wing and Godwin was uncapped. Given the limited options trying an experienced playmaker in Foley at 12, instead of one of the raw recruits, wasn't the worst idea that Cheika ever had. There are also no guarantees that Cooper would have done any better with any of the other available players beside him, so I don't think that season tells us anything about his lost potential.

2020-05-09T06:40:50+00:00

Rhys Bosley

Roar Pro


You highlight in your article that Cooper gave away a yellow card while playing Wales, under McKenzie’s tutelage, as he did on multiple occasions in McKenzies teams over four seasons. Therefore there is no reason to believe that McKenzie would have been any more successful that Chieka in coaching that critical weakness out of Cooper’s game, had he continued with the Wallabies. Perhaps as a Super Rugby coach who had 15 games to play during a season and a solid backup in Mike Harris, McKenzie could afford to take the risk on a loose 10. However, in internationals which rest on one game far more often than in Super Rugby, it is debatable whether McKenzie would have been able to get the same sort of success out of Cooper. As it is the McKenzie/Cooper partnership was only tested against one good team, England on the 2013 and the Wallabies lost that game with errors by Cooper contributing. The tight 2013 game against Wales doesn’t tell us much, the Wallabies had beaten Wales 13 times with and without Cooper in the cockpit, until Michael Chieka completely lost the plot in 2018. Under pressure against good teams like the All Blacks, I reckon Cooper would have cracked like he did so often whether McKenzie was in charge or not.

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2020-05-09T06:05:42+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


I'd agree with you that Matt Toomua should be the first choice under Dave Rennie (at least to begin with) Rhys, but there the agreement would have to end! I think it's pretty clear that if Ewen McKenzie had still been in charge the use of QC would have been better. Also his performance on recall in 2016 was pretty solid, and not 'rocks and diamonds' at all. That was its main new characteristic.

2020-05-09T02:57:35+00:00

Rhys Bosley

Roar Pro


As much as it pains me to defend Michael Cheika, in 2015 he bought Cooper back to Australia and gave him first crack against the Boks in Brisbane. He also provided Cooper with the most experienced 12 he could in Giteau. Cooper responded with his usual rocks and diamonds performance, most notably with a stupid blind round the corner pass which Tevita Kuridrani dropped and nearly cost the Wallabies the game. He made similar stupid mistakes in several important games that he played in that season, a yellow for a high tackle against Argentina, then one against the All Blacks for the same. This is from a player who had been a Wallaby for eight years at that stage and whose career had been hampered all along by a propensity to fail under pressure. Those issues failed him in subsequent years too, including most recently at the Rebels. Can’t blame Cheka for that. As an experienced professional Cooper should have taken responsibility for addressing his own deficiencies. If he did try but fail to resolve them and we are unaware of that, then that simply indicates a lack of some crucial abilities for him to be considered a first pick international rugby player. Such is life, we all come up on a personal limitation at some stage and have to live with it. As such I don’t think Australian rugby “failed to extract” the best from Cooper. I just think he failed to make a case for consistent selection. The only fly half who I genuinely think was hard done by during the McKenzie/Cheika era was Matt Toomua, who is a better all rounder than either of the other two blokes. He is no “roundhead”, he is a genuine attacking 10 who can do everything else his role requires soon. I hope Rennie gives Toomua first crack and a fair go at the Wallabies 10 Jersey by Rennie, with O”Connor outside him at 12. I reckon in those two we have an under rated World Class playmaking combination that will put the nonsense of the Cheika era behind us.

2020-05-08T09:46:00+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Like him, he's another of the U-20's, he and Tizzano came over from the Force both look quality

2020-05-08T09:29:24+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


Haven’t seen any of him. Good young player?

2020-05-08T06:17:37+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


McDonald the you WA half at the Tahs shows a fair bit of promise as a kicker as well

2020-05-08T05:00:01+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


He wasn’t around for long unfortunately, only a couple of years. Ryan Lonergan at the Brumbies looks like he could be an 85%+ kicker. Shame he plays in a position where he won’t usually be on the field for 80 minutes, even if first choice.

2020-05-08T04:44:37+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


yeah, fair call

2020-05-08T04:19:38+00:00

Oblonsky‘s Other Pun

Roar Guru


I don’t think any of the young 10s are ready for test rugby, Nick. But Harrison, a young guy who plays so deep and rarely takes it to the line is certainly not ready in my opinion. Obviously, it is difficult because team is pummelled in the breakdown every week. But still, you can’t pick a 10 who hasn’t demonstrated a willingness to engage the defenders and then distribute.

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