Super Rugby tipping panel Week 13: We meet again

By Brett McKay / Expert

Well, I look forward to watching whatever games top either final from the weekend! We saw two brilliant games that had you on the edge of the seat – even watching along at home on the couch was a tiring affair.

These games are the reasons we love the game so much.

So then… we meet again, Kiwis. It’s no rest for the wicked and we’re now straight into Super Rugby trans-Tasman. A Saturday night triple-header feels like a great way to complete Round 1, as well!

And I, for one, will be intrigued to see just how big or otherwise this supposed gap between the competitions really is. I don’t think it’s nearly as big as plenty would like to think it is.

It’s great to be back in the chair steering the panel again, I can’t wait to rip into this weekend’s games.

Last week: Harry, Dan, Geoff, and The Crowd 2; Brett and Digger 1.

Overall: Dan 33, Harry 32, Geoff and The Crowd 31, Brett and Digger 28.

Dan

Highlanders, Hurricanes, Crusaders, Blues, Chiefs
If we do persevere with the model of standalone domestic comps followed by a crossover Trans-Tasman tournament, a week off between the two is a necessity.

We need to avoid the situation the Reds have found themselves in – naming a weakened team to avoid having too many players back up six days after a taxing final. I was fully intent on tipping Queensland, but with their XV I can’t see them getting past the Highlanders in Dunedin.

How well will the Reds back up? (Photo by Bradley Kanaris/Getty Images)

The next two matches are straightforward: the Canes will cruise to a win against the ‘Tahs (dare I say the margin will be plenty?), while asking the Brumbies to back up against the Crusaders is a cruel bit of fixturing – although in some ways it’s not the worst thing for them to get their trip to Christchurch out of the way nice and early. At any rate, the men in red are impossible to overlook in this one.

The Kiwi sides also deserve favouritism in the late Saturday night games, although both could be close-run encounters.

The Rebels are capable of matching it with the Blues and the Force have the defensive starch to frustrate the Chiefs, but I can’t see enough attacking prowess in either of the Australian sides to outscore their opponents.

Sure thing: There will be an Australian upset or two during the competition. Just maybe not this week.

Harry

Highlanders, Hurricanes, Crusaders, Blues, Chiefs
Get out the broom.

Think of words like ‘whitewash’ and ‘collapse’.

The gap grew. Derbies fool us.

Just like the Six Nations made some people think half of the Scottish team is ready to win on the High Veldt. And that Jonny Hill is the new Lood de Jager, just because he has a baby face. And that Duhan van der Merwe has a chance in hell touching Cheslin Kolbe.

The Reds will worry the Highlanders for a half, but the ruck-reload speed indoors will stagger the visitors, who just spent a tonne of energy getting on top.

The battle of the harbour towns: I worry about the Tahs keeping the Canes under 50, and I don’t see them doing it.

Cameron Roigard. (Photo by Mark Tantrum/Getty Images)

The Brumbies have the least enviable trek: to Christchurch, to play Richie and Will. Crusaders by more than plenty.

The Rebels will see a lot of Blue flashes and bashes. Auckland by 25.

The Force will be brave. The Chiefs will score at will.

Sure thing: Australian rugby needs one thing more than anything else: pure, raw, unadulterated speed. Speed on the ball. Speed of thought. Speed to the ruck; and clear. This is what we will see, illustrated.

Geoff

Highlanders, Hurricanes, Crusaders, Blues, Chiefs
In all of the euphoria of getting a trans-Tasman competition up, it’s only now that some of the detail has presented itself to be picked over. And there are more holes than a block of Swiss cheese, a crocheted blanket and the General Belgrano combined.

The Reds drop straight into seven degrees in Dunedin, off a six-day break, two of which have been spent on the piss. Unlikely.

Waratahs players have undertaken counselling mid-week to overcome their sadness at news chairman Roger Davis is moving on. Unlikely.

The Brumbies did themselves proud, even though they came up short in a gripping final. They’d ordinarily be the best chance of an Australian win, but they just happen to draw the Crusaders in Christchurch first up. Unlucky. And unlikely.

The Rebels are well rested and focused under interim coach Kevin Foote. They’d be a chance too, against a slightly underachieving Blues side. But they have Trevor Hosea, Isi Naisarani and Pone Fa’amuasili watching on from the naughty chair. Unlikely.

The Force are also at home, have improved throughout the season and still have upside. The Chiefs are skinny at lock, but I like how coach Clayton McMillan says how he won’t allow his boys to be distracted by the antics of their bus driver, and will have them up for the game.

Sure thing: The News Corporation presses are already primed, set to run. A 5-0, or even a 4-1 split to the New Zealand sides, will instantly draw a plethora of “We told you so” and “Australian rugby back in the doldrums” stories.

Digger

Highlanders, Hurricanes, Crusaders, Blues, Chiefs
Have been really looking forward to getting stuck into our cobbers across the pond and finally that time is here.

The Reds and Highlanders clash has had me tossing and turning all week, certainly the hardest decision in my view from the opening round.

Both sides look down on personnel and the Highlanders will have to make do without the use of Tony Brown’s house for this section of the calendar. In the end I have settled on the Highlanders due to the Reds having just a six-day turnaround after such an intense final. (I mean, how do you get yourself back up straight after that).

They take on a well-rested Highlanders side at home. I would also be nervous about the Reds kicking game which I thought was a bit average in the final, a repeat would be ill-advised against Kiwi opposition.

Big question mark for me over the Rebels and how they line up after losing their head coach and I think the Blues have too many guns for them to get up, while the Force are perfectly suited to spoil and frustrate the Chiefs free flowing game, but I just don’t see how they will score enough points.

I am picking the Chiefs will be stinging a bit after losing in the final so the Chiefs for me in Perth.

The Brumbies too will be stinging after their final loss and one would think it’s a perfect scenario to get right back on the horse and put that result in the rear view mirror the very next week and they will be well up for the Crusaders challenge. However, given their own injury concerns, I do not believe they can put 23 up that will do the job, am picking the Crusaders will pull away in the last 20 based on what I believe will be a stronger bench.

Richie Mo’unga. (Photo by Kai Schwoerer/Getty Images)

And for the match of the round, the greatly anticipated battle of the respective wooden spooners, Canes by plenty please based purely on the fact that I cannot bear the idea of Machooka’s crowing if the unthinkable transpires, I am sure he would agree with me on this occasion.

Sure thing: Pretty certain at least one of the Kiwi captains will mistakenly ask for a referral during this opening round and Jordie will kick a maximum at the SCG.

Brett

Reds, Hurricanes, Crusaders, Blues, Force
Well, this is all a bit disappointing, isn’t it? First week back in the chair and I’m surrounded by sheep. Baaaaa, you blokes. Bbbbaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa…

Anyways, to prove this, I am hereby backing the Reds, the new kings of the rugby world, to produce the first almighty headline of Trans-Tasman. Six-day turnaround after two days on the sauce and a flight to the bottom end of the South Island? No problems! Four bucks for the win? I could be tempted, yes indeed.

Hurricanes do look a bit strong for the Waratahs, but will it be by plenty? Honestly, it’s enough to keep a Digger up at night.

The Brumbies kick off their three-week tour of hell in Christchurch, and it won’t be much easier once they get to Hamilton. Might even be worth saving everything up for the Smurfs the following week. Not sure the Brumbies start trans-Tasman with a win, but I look forward to being wrong.

I never look forward to being wrong about the mob from Auckland, but here I am giving them to the benefit of significant doubt and starting trans-Tasman from a clean slate. This is actually a hard tip, what with the science of a new coach being on board for the Rebels as well. You shouldn’t go against science, so you’re on notice, Smurfs.

Akira Ioane. (Photo by Kai Schwoerer/Getty Images)

And I said on Tuesday that the Force will and should fancy their chances against a Chiefs side reacquainting themselves with their passports. They’ve had to pick up a couple of locks en route, and get a fresh supply of crutches and the like to aid their walking wounded. And also, because of these sheep around me. Baaaaaaaa…

Sure thing: I don’t think the Tahs win this weekend, but something tells me they get a win somewhere. And as I wrote on Tuesday, imagine being the first side to lose to the Waratahs in 2021!

Harry Brett Dan Digger Geoff The Crowd
HIG v RED HIG RED HIG HIG HIG RED
WAR v HUR HUR HUR HUR HUR HUR HUR
CRU v BRU CRU CRU CRU CRU CRU CRU
REB v BLU BLU BLU BLU BLU BLU BLU
FOR v CHI CHI FOR CHI CHI CHI CHI
Overall 32 28 33 28 31 31
Last week 2 1 2 1 2 2

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The Crowd Says:

2021-05-15T11:59:13+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


Just checked, there is some screwball tie up between UOW and Crusaders. Four of the Rd 3 games are at Napier, Wollongong, Queenstown and Townsville which I had heard from the same rumourmonger was a 'take it to the regions' thing. Of course the Blues are at Eden Park so I guess nobody wants them.

2021-05-15T11:53:42+00:00


Yeah Im not sure of the Townsville rugby scene but its spreading the games around. I just presumed that Suncorp was tied up with NRL.

2021-05-15T11:48:16+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


I was not thinking so much about ticketing, just securing some support for the Reds and rugby in Nth Qld. I heard the Crusaders have some tie up with the University of Wollongong.

2021-05-15T03:40:29+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Ahhh Mzil, Villi Karoi?????

2021-05-15T02:57:12+00:00


Its the shared revenue round so Chiefs have to be being paid a fair amount. I heard that the Saders were paid more to play away that weekend than if they had hosted so Im hoping the QLD Gov may be garranteeing the costs...

2021-05-15T02:48:59+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


Although it is a magnificent game to take to north Qld. If they get a great crowd then it will be a worthwhile investment for QRU.

2021-05-15T02:44:27+00:00


Yeah cant argue that, its just a real shame that the Chiefs game is in Townsville instead of Brisbane..A wasted opportunity but I guess the NRL has something to do with it.

2021-05-15T02:38:38+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


Agreed, I couldn't figure it out last night. I now think Thorn is playing the long game, good performances going all the way against the Chiefs and Crusaders will do more for Queensland in the short and medium term than a win against Highlanders followed by two losses. That is the only rational explanation I can think of, they cannot all be injured!

2021-05-15T02:29:51+00:00


Could be done and dusted by week 3 if they arnt careful…..Lose to the Saders next week and they wont be near a final. This week was important.

2021-05-15T02:23:13+00:00

Muglair

Roar Rookie


It wouldn't matter how promising things were, this first week was always going to be a step up in speed and accuracy. I thought the Reds went OK even though it was not the Australian champions that went on the field. Interesting call by Thorn but he may have figured he wanted his best time firing for the Crusaders and Chiefs rather than take the points against the Highlanders. By the end of week 3 we should have an idea of how far we came in 2021.

2021-05-14T06:37:44+00:00

Viva Moss Vegas

Roar Rookie


Anything is possible :silly:

2021-05-14T06:16:52+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


wow don't know about Moss Vale as I always knew Elvis was still alive but thought he ran that fabulous pizza joint along Botany Bay. I guess he might live in Moss Vale and work in Brightlon Le Sands. :silly: http://www.jailhousepizza.com.au/about-us

2021-05-14T06:09:18+00:00

Viva Moss Vegas

Roar Rookie


Too right Thugby, where else would he rock n’ roll?! :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

2021-05-14T05:03:54+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


You do know there is only 25 games, don't you? Your estimates have aussie sides wining at least 10, but Kiwi sides only losing 8. :happy:

2021-05-14T04:57:53+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Eowwwwwwwwww! Comparing Whittaker to Cadbury is like stewed mutton to a quality lamb roast. One is for the dogs, the latter is for royalty. :happy:

2021-05-14T04:54:41+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Viva, great name there. Play on Elvis now lives in Moss Vale? :silly:

2021-05-14T04:45:17+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Bu99er, am not the flag-waving type but after reading lots of the posts here, am going to pick another Aussie team to win. hmmm.. einee, meanie, minie, mo ...... Reds class to club the baby seals/penguins so. So new tips: Reds, Hurricanes, Crusaders, Unmentionable Colour, Force. :silly:

2021-05-14T04:40:34+00:00

Viva Moss Vegas

Roar Rookie


I’m not surprised Sir Machooka :stoked:

2021-05-14T04:30:08+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Adrien, You can make big dosh on the Tahs and Rebels' starts. Way too high considering Highlanders came last in their competition (and no ArdieS) and that Unspoken Primary Colour team always manages to lose their way against easy opposition.

2021-05-14T04:14:38+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


2 from 2 last week but then everyone got 2 except rusted on pony backers scored big time. Onto this week. Penguins play a nice brand of fast pressure rugby, which should be too much for the Reds who likely will still be trying to remove the euphoria and XXXX from their bodies. Big Brad is also resting players but that's slightly offset by S.Frizell in the naughty chair. Canes to pip Them Noble Tahs (TNT). This match should be promoted as a Game of Thrones episode, called The Battle of the Cellar Dwellers. In 80 minutes you will get: .... mystery of some actions and the outcome, loads of action and slaying of beasts and men, betrayal as idiot players let down their mates with brainfarts and finally a disaster or two to lead to an ending of one or more main characters. The only thing missing is the incest. I disagree that Digger's mob will flog TNT. The Tahs backs are starting to believe in themselves and will put heaps on the Cane's young halves. Add that the Canes pigs are rudderless without ArdieS. I expect a draw in the forwards battle but the Canes' classy backs will burn in a couple of tries off broken play and that should be enough. Crusaders to rap while eating horseflesh burgers. I just can't see how the Saders, even without Wonder Will, can lose to the Brumbies who are missing C.Neville and N.White. Saders by 18. The Wabbles at home vs The Colour that should NOT be spoken. I thought the Rebels played some good footy at times and its always on that RT's mob will do what is in the blood and manage to lose the unlosable. Rebels are banking on a speedy tough back row to attack the COLOUR's rucks and starve them of ball. Normally I would pick Rebels here but no T.Hosea, I.Naisarani and P.Faamausili pushes me (and Brett it seems) to the unthinkable of picking that Primary Colour of about 440 nm wavelength! And now the big one. Force to beat a downcast and sore Chiefs. Common you Aussies, we have to pick at least ONE Aussie team. Chiefs are going to be sore, travel weary and down after losing the Big Dance against the Borg. Force will be up for this one. The main downside for the Westies is losing S.Timani, although I really am perplexed with starting Jake McIntyre?? In Short: Highlanders, Hurricanes, Crusaders, Blues Force. Sure Thing: After the 5 matches, the Roar to be flooded with people located on an island near Oz to wave their rugby rosary beads in front of us and proclaim that they are God's Chosen Rugby Nation; followed by the usual NRL/Foxtel/A.JonesBeliever trolls proclaiming to all and sundry that rugby is dead in Oz. yawnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn ...

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