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In so many cases I go to a Roarer's profile and find people with amazing, and relevant, experience to be a commentator, or something witty and sharp. Someone called Muglair should have a spectacular profile photo as well. Sadly empty handed which is giving me some insight to my continued failure on internet dating. I think I will ask Honest Max to draft one up.
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This started as one article but became a bit too long and this is the first part only, hopefully clarifying for readers how private…
Some of the commentary in the last couple of weeks reminds me how little has changed in rugby, despite of, and during, a period…
There are a lot of problems confronting our game in 2020. Some of them are a result of money intruding into our sport, many…
Raelene Castle cannot be forced out as a sacrificial scapegoat to save the board and other management. No business can so consistently ignore and…
Agreed that they effectively become liable for the losses but post Rebels, that can only go so far. I think we are a long way from the right financial governance model for Australian rugby. At all levels.
Commercial common sense dictates that RA needs to have greater oversight and control. On the flip side, get too close and you become a defacto director. Although the Rebels is an ugly deep hole I guess RA directors and executives probably sleep easier at night than the Rebels directors are.
Unless they were a lot more involved than they claim.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
I would think, but don’t know for certain, that RA owns all logos, trademarks etc and then licenses them under the Participation Agreement. If they do not, then that is one problem for potential PE investors. I think that is how the other codes operate, and it would make commercial common sense. That makes a nonsense of claims that SR franchises can easily find their own PE investors.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
Although they are likely insights into the management or mismanagement of the competition, the insolvency issue turns more on whether RA or its officers acted as defacto directors, taking control or giving instructions.
Say, the Rebels wanted to appoint a VA late last year when the DPNs were issued, but a senior RA said don’t do that because of xyz, and we will advance you some money to cover ATO payments, then reneged.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
That is possibly a risk for RA, its directors and officers although nobody has put on the record any influence of RA on the Rebels decisions and operations.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
Sure, but five 2nd tier teams and no 3rd tier is not working and will likely never work. Worse case is the gaps between our 2nd tier and both test and club rugby just keep getting wider.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
I don’t believe you can anchor the teams like that. It will need to be more complicated to operate simply and consistently over time. Also would you trust half of our elite players, and all of the attached revenues to a JV of 2 or 3 state unions?
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
There would be a big difference in salaries paid for players in the domestic competition, smaller staffs etc. Plus increased revenues hopefully. RA and co need to figure out how to sell rugby game tickets to rugby supporters. I don’t think they know, don’t think they care and they certainly don’t try too hard.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
Look at the Waratahs. 30k+ crowds were regular pre 2010 and rarely under $20k, which would probably be some poor game or bad weather. No matter how attractive the rugby, or how winning the rugby, those crowds did not come back in 2014.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
I don’t know if anyone would buy it, but if they can run at a surplus and get some BIL/RWC cash then my guess would be they will repay themselves and the directors, and not really care what happens after that.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
To be fair, I think TWAS made that comment on the basis of Crawford’s statements about the consortium’s plans, which did not mention bailing out the Rebels. The whole thing is turning into a giant stinking t&#d.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
I don’t think so. PWC were appointed to establish the quantum of liabilities so I am guessing no annual audit. remember also the report that no ASIC returns had been lodged since 2017. Just occurred to me that if you lodge the annual return to ASIC you have to confirm solvency. On that basis there is another wisp of smoke.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
The Administrator did not say that, and he is not urging anyone to do anything. It is the responsibility of the directors to propose a DOCA, and the responsibility of the Administrator to put it to the meeting.
It is not the role of the Administrator to opine on the feasibility of the DOCA or the likelihood of it succeeding. He is recommending it to the creditors on the basis that if it was successful, then it would be better for creditors than the likely return of a liquidation.
It will be interesting to see how the meeting goes.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
Womens game is key. The biggest untapped pool of rugby supporters, remembering that unless you have played, or are close to someone who did, you are unlikely to become a supporter.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
100% D, just looking at the financial position today of each corporate entity will not ever identify the financial contribution of each. RA just pays an equal amount to each state once it decides what amount of the gross broadcast and sponsorship revenues it will pass on to the states. That was Hamish’s “centralisation plan”, he wanted to receive all of the states revenues as well, before deciding how much he would give them.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
Sponsors and broadcasters want national coverage and Victoria is a big market. It is next to impossible to properly evaluate which states contribute the most value, and the arbitrary accounting sharing of total revenues by RA certainly won’t provide any clue.
You probably need some smart consultants to provide a proper financial comparison of each of the five states. Then you really need to look at strategy and investment. Would the Rebels have larger crowds if they had the support the Waratahs receive via contracting of topped up players?
NSW might be in a much better financial position than the Rebels, but they should be sitting on a cash cow, with every advantage as far as public interest and existing rugby infrastructure built over 100 years at no cost to the current administration.
Note that barring some catastrophic financial outcome in the 12 months to 31 December 2023, NSW are a breakeven type operation with minimal net debt.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
Because they are lazy and don’t want to make any difficulties for their day. It is the same for most insolvent taxpayers, the ATO just let them trade on until they run out of cash. Like the Rebels did, cannot pay wages.
The ATO should be forced to take action as soon as they are aware a taxpayer is likely to be insolvent. This is usually the case when they cannot pay the amounts owing on their BAS, and are unable to negotiate a repayment plan.
Business owners think they have had a “win” by avoiding direct action from the ATO. It isn’t a win. Identifying insolvency immediately usually allows most debts to be repaid and some value salvaged from the business. Instead creditors lose almost all their debts, employees lose super and will often have significant delays receiving anything, and the business owner usually loses everything they own, often including their homes and families.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
Yes and no. The group is not wrong, but the only way forward is to do it within the existing Constitution. RA need to be doing these things now, not in two years time after they keep failing while doing the same things.
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
The best investment in a successful future for the traditionally male football sports is female participation. The distant hope of FT Wallaroos and competition with NZ is just that, distant. Each year we must be falling further behind the other nations. We need a substantial increase in the PT remuneration of all Super W players and a full home and away structure with ten games. Right now.
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Interesting that Thorn’s ruthless response changed Werchon’s attitude and approach to professional rugby.
Putting the fans at the centre is not the answer. It might work at SRP global level, but not until some of the organisations down the line put players at the centre. That is not professional players, although they should be treated equally, but all players.
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The big lesson for young players. Beale has absolutely extravagant talent but to play the way he did on the weekend required extraordinary dedication to strength and conditioning, and extraordinary focus and determination. Hundreds of games played did not go astray either.
The real takeaway, what might have been for so many similarly talented players over the last twenty years.
If Australia is looking for big men, let's not neglect the old and the fat
I am having disappearing comments again, first time for quite a while. We need two tiers, one with the existing five teams as a 3rd tier, and a separate 2nd tier to play in SRP. Don’t know how you structure it, but we should have gone with it in 2021.
NSW, Qld and one other team is just not going to be viable.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
They should have gone to two or three teams when NZ asked in 2021. With two teams you would be a good chance to be both finalists. With three teams, surely challenging for semi finals.
The challenge is that you have to preserve the equal status of the five states, and then add on top the three teams with the best players. Reducing to NSW, Qld and one other is rugby and commercial suicide.
That was way too hard for McLennan. Three years later and we don’t seem to have moved forward. Improved performances in SRP, yes, but as they are also considering in NZ, is that Australia improving, or NZ falling back?
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival
These same people control an entity which is intended to be an association of Australian rugby clubs. They have not sufficiently expanded that association to be an effective influence, or indeed be a template for reform. This is just opportunistic and lazy.
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
Hanning is associated with McLennan and should already have resigned.
'Easy to throw stones': RA chairman hits back at mudslingers' 'hypocrisy' after calls for AGM board cleanout
I agree that it is the right thing to do, but so has been more financial support for Pacific rugby over the last 50 years.
However I also think it is a financial imperative to secure the support and participation of women and girls. It is the largest untapped source of potential rugby supporters. Not that RA & Co are very successful at attracting the bolted on rugby community to games anyway.
Also every young girl that plays another sport increases the risk of her parents and brothers following.
UPDATE: RA say they were blindsided over Rebels' finances, reject private consortium claim as administrator backs club's survival