Paine reveals Langer's reaction and says he wants 'ultimate high' of playing in home Ashes win

By The Roar / Editor

Tim Paine, who quit the Australian captaincy on Friday in the wake of publication of historical lewd texts sent to a co-worker, has revealed national coach Justin Langer wanted him to continue in the job.

On Friday, a tearful Paine read a brief statement admitting his part in the text exhange from 2017, before he became Australian captain.

Cricket Australia cleared him of wrongdoing at the time and appointed him to help lead a review of the game’s culture after he replaced Steve Smith at the helm.

On Sunday the Herald Sun – the same paper that exposed the text exchange – published a joint interview with Tim and his wife, Bonnie.

Paine, who said he wants to continue to push for selection as a player for the Ashes says he never contemplated retiring from the game.

“Resign, or don’t resign – they were the alternatives I was tossing up,” said Paine.

Tim Paine and wife Bonnie Paine arrive ahead of the 2020 Cricket Australia Awards last year. (Photo by Daniel Pockett/Getty Images)

“I wasn’t going to retire, I’d been pretty clear I wanted to keep playing, and potentially finish after this Ashes series. I see that as the ultimate high, to be able to finish your Test career after winning an Ashes series in Australia. That’s the dream. That’s what I want to do. To go and represent my country, well, and help win the Ashes.”

Paine said he wasn’t pushed to resign his post.

“It was mine and mine alone,” he said of the decision. “It was hard, but I know it’s the right thing to do. I feel completely gutted, but it’s all my doing, and I know resigning is the right call.”

He acknowledged no one at Cricket Australia tried to talk him out of the resignation but added: “I had plenty of people that I talked to, that I respect, who wanted me to stay in the role, and thought I should have, but for all the reasons we’ve talked about, I thought, no, I knew, it was the right thing to do by everyone.”

He said his teammates and Langer had been “unbelievably supportive.

“JL told me he’s devastated. He was pretty firm that he wanted me to continue as captain, and again, once I explained to him the reasons that I thought resigning was the best thing to do, he was with me all the way,” said Paine.

“I’ve got messages from all my teammates saying they’ve got my back, and that we all make mistakes, and we move on.”

Paine said he thought none of his teammates knew about the incidemt.

“I only told a couple of people, but with most things where I have been wrong, or done the wrong thing, I’d just held it all to myself, and tried to fight my way through it all, which is actually bloody unhealthy. I’ve learnt that isn’t the best way to deal with these things,” he said.

However, he has been expecting details to emerge at some stage.

“Yeah, I did, absolutely. I thought the issue was dealt with, but it always popped up around a big series, or at the start of the cricket season,” said Paine.

“Over the last three years, there have been numerous times where media agencies have put to us that they had evidence, yet they never chose to write it. As to why, I’m not sure, but nobody else had chosen to write the story, but I knew it was going to come out at some point, as much as I didn’t want it to.”

He said he understood he was cleared by code of conduct enquiries because “it was two consenting adults exchanging private messages.”

Paine said the revelations ha made him “feel terrible, to be honest. Although Bonnie and I have both known about all this for three years, to have it played out like this is really distressing, and upsetting, and I’m really embarrassed.

“Really embarrassed. I feel sick for Bonnie, and for my family more than anything else.”

Paine said he told Bonnie about the incident when the investifgation was launched first by Cricket Tasmania in 2018.

She said she was shocked then, and believes it’s unfair that it has come to public light four years later.

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“I have had my time of getting angry, and venting, and to get upset, and we fought and we talked, and then we both decided to move on with life, and do it together,” she said.

“I feel a bit frustrated that it’s all been brought up and aired in the public when we’d put it to bed years ago. I have moved forward since then. I feel like there is a lot of injustice for it being dragged out again.”

She thought the incident was behind them.

“We thought so. We had all dealt with it. Tim had dealt with the repercussions from Cricket Australia, being scrutinised and investigated, and then he had to tell me and deal with me being upset. Now, it seems unfair that it’s being aired out to everyone else to view and judge.”

At the time, she said, “I was shocked. I remember feeling angry because we had a little girl that wasn’t too old. At the same time, Tim and I had been in a long relationship, it’d been 10 years, and God knows we had had our ups and downs, and I don’t claim to be perfect, but I was still completely rocked.”

The Crowd Says:

2021-11-25T23:38:45+00:00

Christo the Daddyo

Roar Rookie


Paine was the right choice at the time - perhaps the only option really. It's an interesting question though, isn't it - what makes a great captain? And how would we rank Australia's captains? I'd actually put Border and Taylor (from the last few decades) as the best we've had. For different reasons.

2021-11-24T09:07:41+00:00

U

Roar Rookie


Is it a bigger high than sending dic picks to middle aged subordinates?

2021-11-23T19:17:29+00:00

Clear as mud

Guest


No. You don’t. it’s outrageous that this post is still up. I am not going to argue. I feel like vomiting. You aren’t worth it. I’m out of here.

2021-11-23T09:16:01+00:00

Peter Darrow

Roar Guru


So what is it if not sexual? That's what it is totally all about. It does not shame women in general, just the vindictive ones or do you believe they are all angels? See, it is ok to criticise certain people (not genders), it doesn't mean they are all bad. Same goes for men. You really have no idea.

2021-11-23T07:47:18+00:00

Clear as mud

Guest


You really have no idea what you are talking about and should leave the sexual and gender politics out of it And take down that awful and vindictive post. If you can’t see how it tries to shame women in general, you are blind. Or wilful. So take it down

2021-11-23T05:51:49+00:00

Peter Darrow

Roar Guru


You're giving the impression you are some sort of moral arbiter, and yet you approve of someone having an affair with a married man?

2021-11-23T05:11:10+00:00

Peter Darrow

Roar Guru


They wrote the post. Women. So if you are cleared of something, why would someone turn around and take it further? This just raises a lot of questions. And I would guess the details were leaked prior to the Ashes to hurt Paine as much as possible?

2021-11-23T03:40:04+00:00

Clear as mud

Guest


that post is. take it down. it's irrelevant, and revolting.

2021-11-23T03:37:34+00:00

Clear as mud

Guest


He scored, 26, 19 and 50 in his 3 digs in the Wanderers games

2021-11-23T01:10:57+00:00

Peter Darrow

Roar Guru


So the women who write for Mothers of Sons are mysoginists are they? https://www.facebook.com/MothersOfSonsMOS/

2021-11-22T22:48:19+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


Not sure how I feel about Clarke - I don't hate him but don't really like him either. He obviously didn't read the dressing room very well early in his career but matured a bit later on.

2021-11-22T22:30:34+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


I don't think it was jealousy. If you are in the Australian Cricket team your focus is the team; everything else is secondary. That or don't put ya name up. It was sort the same thing that got up my nose with Greg C. Lara was a car crash IMNSHO. What rubbed me up the wrong way with Clarke was he was sickeningly chummy with everybody.

2021-11-22T22:24:18+00:00

Mick Gold Coast QLD

Roar Guru


"rubbed a few people up the wrong way" An entertaining way of spelling universally disliked in cricket for good reason, yes. He would have been better off in the Olympics single skulls, but not competing as part of a team. "one of our better captains" That is just as amusing. A good captain doesn't leave his touring team to fly back home because Li'l Miss Needy wasn't getting enough attention. :stoked:

2021-11-22T22:11:04+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


Clarke had the glamour lifestyle and the glamour girlfriend which didn't set well with some of the players - I suspect part of the players' response was jealousy - and a reaction to someone who would rather be with his girlfriend or somewhere else rather than having a few beers with the boys after the game. Clarke had his roots in the Western suburbs of Sydney and despite appearances had a tough competitive streak. He wasn't a toff.

2021-11-22T22:01:22+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


You are right it was two tours - given it was the apartheid era a tour of Australia in between was cancelled if I recall

2021-11-22T21:54:12+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


Aries are great leaders but they can lack people skills. It’s no coincidence that they are the first sign. Tactically he was a good captain and he loved a fight. But he didn’t have the shed and that counted against him. He is not in the class of Benaud, Chappelli, Border, Tubby or Tugga. But he is better than Ponting, Smith or Paine.

2021-11-22T21:45:15+00:00

Clear as mud

Guest


yes. all of that. also as good a batting captain as any, the SA 2011 solo effort etc. terrible people manager, at the same time. oh well...

2021-11-22T21:43:44+00:00

Clear as mud

Guest


he did go on a wanderers in 76 i think?

2021-11-22T21:36:38+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


Despite the fact that Clarke rubbed a few people up the wrong way - I thought he was one of our better captains of recent years. He was always proactive onfield with his innovative field placements and wasn't afraid to find ways to unsettle batsmen or exploit a weakness. He never let the game drift like Ponting did at times. Not sure Paine had the same level of tactical acumen.

2021-11-22T20:57:48+00:00

Clear as mud

Guest


awful. hateful. unwarranted. unsupportable. mysoginist. and your post should be removed. just my thoughts.

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