Buyer beware: Who won the James Harden-Ben Simmons trade?

By Yattuzzi / Roar Rookie

Firstly, the headliner deal had a few more elements to it.

It included Seth Curry and Andre Drummond for Brooklyn and Paul Millsap for Philadelphia. Brooklyn also snagged a 2022 first-round pick and a top-eight protected first-round pick in 2027.

Daryl Morey looked like Sylvester the Cat after he just swallowed Tweety Bird. He knows he won. He got his man and unloaded that troublesome non-shooter Simmons. And he has Harden now, not at season’s end. The Sixers are 35-23 and they are going for the ultimate prize.

Joel Embiid has been staring this year. He is a powerhouse in offence. He is a menace in defence. He has almost played a guard’s role, enjoyed a few triple doubles and hit the threes from way beyond the arc.

But he is probably the only player who is starring. The Sixers don’t have a real point guard. Curry was used occasionally, but he is gone.

Tyrese Maxey has been lauded for his play and is presented as a star of the future. But almost all his plays are made by him alone. His signature move is a fast layup with a final burst. His assists are relatively low. He is not a point guard.

James Harden, the prize recruit, is a point guard. His assists this season are hovering around ten per game. But I guess if you have Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving on tap, it should be.

(Photo by Sarah Stier/Getty Images)

He also has the three-point sharp shooters in Patty Mills and Joe Harris superbly spaced. Harden is not fast. He doesn’t break fast and deliver.

This will pretty much limit the team to a slower set play, which is quite alright for Embiid with his powerful offensive prowess and the ‘Beard’ with his step backs. But it will become very straight forward to the defenders.

Harden is famous for his three-point baskets, albeit at a bit lower volume this year. He always scored his free throws from the many fouls beyond the three-point line.

But these have been reduced after the league cracked down on angled jumps, kicking legs and deliberate drawing of fowls.

The other Harden speciality is the dribble through the key and the one-handed loop over the defender or the traditional layup.

He is consistent and will reward the Sixers. But Harden is getting old. He is unfit. He is definitely carrying extra weight.

He has a hamstring issue (not just a pretend one). All this results in a slow player becoming slower.

Philadelphia have lost the key three-pointer in Seth Curry. This will hurt. Danny Green, Furkan Korkmaz, Tobias Harris and Matisse Thybulle can hit threes but not nearly as reliably and not nearly as fast with the shot.

Millsap is short and old and looking very much like a set of steak knives.

With Drummond gone, Philadelphia have lost their back-up centre. When Embiid is benched, they are going to have go the small, fast brigade. That is not a particularly good option for Harden.

The trade was almost a shock for the Nets. The coach was insisting that James Harden was staying. Obviously Moray has Harden’s second mobile number, not Steve Nash. But Nash must be smiling at the deal.

The Nets are laden with superstar shooters but are known for their lack of defence. Ben Simmons has been taken apart by his former team and the press. But not for defence.

He is a magnificent defender to all heights and types of players. And nobody has ever complained about his fast-paced movement and pinpoint delivery to teammates.

The objection was his reluctance to jump shoot. He can keep that reservation with Durant, Irving, Nic Claxton, multiple three-point guns and dependable centres.

But hopefully he has spent six months practicing, particularly with his foul shots. Simmons has always been able to deliver next to the basket.

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Patty Mills has excelled with his three-point shooting this season. He hurts teams late in matches.

Seth Curry is going to be a serious threat. He is at least as good as Mills. Joe Harris is also good and will be back from his injury. There is some serious three-point ability and depth in this team.

The Nets have been a bit low on the big-boy talent. LaMarcus Aldridge is alright, but I guess just weary.

Blake Griffin gets involved in some close-to-basket play but seems a bit short, slow, and lacking in spring.

Andre Drummond will add depth. His only issue is that his free throws are only just better than young Simmons’.

In summary, the Sixers have sold out their flexibility to get their gun scorer Harden. I can see it ending in tears.

Remember Harden still hasn’t made a commitment beyond 2022 yet. The Nets have made huge bounds with the defence.

They have a large array of scoring options being pinpointed by the fast, aggressive Simmons. Their biggest risk is the part timer Irving.

If New York don’t change their vaccination rules and they excel without him, sit him out.

The Nets have won the deal this year. The upcoming draft picks are a future bonus.

How the season and the playoffs pan out for these teams will be fascinating.

I can’t wait for the Sixers-Nets match-up. And there is sure to be a playoff series between the two teams.

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The Crowd Says:

2022-04-11T18:59:53+00:00

Ad-O

Guest


Milwaukee LOL!

AUTHOR

2022-02-24T05:43:08+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


All good now. Go Nets at least.

2022-02-24T03:47:50+00:00

2dogs

Guest


All good here mate :thumbup: I hope you and your family are doing well! Go Blues and Go Nets now :silly:

AUTHOR

2022-02-23T21:53:27+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


Thanks 2D. Hope you are well.

2022-02-23T21:36:18+00:00

2dogs

Guest


Nice article Yattz :thumbup:

2022-02-22T23:48:43+00:00

astro

Roar Rookie


Yeah that's fair enough...Harden is a bit of a risk too! But the pick and roll of Harden and Embiid should be hard to stop, and I have more faith in that than Simmons being a competent FT shooter now...although I really hope it is!

2022-02-22T14:56:24+00:00

Bell31

Roar Rookie


I think you're under-playing how good a player Simmons is, even if he hasn't played for half a year (yes, he has to make FTs though!), and over-playing how good a fit Harden is - there's quite a lot of talk about Harden and Embiid potentially not meshing that well in terms of playing style and potentially, even in terms of egos, not to mention Harden isn't in great shape this year --- I agree though that it could go pear-shaped for the Nets really easily, but I wouldn't be surprised if things go a bit pear shaped for the 76ers as well (losing Curry will hurt come play-off time)

2022-02-21T23:13:14+00:00

astro

Roar Rookie


Because, the contract wont matter if Harden helps them win a title. And the Sixers aren't over-paying yet, anyway...Harden is still worth the money at this point in time. What happens down the road, is anyone's guess. Just in the last few years, we've seen guys with 'immovable' contracts be traded, so Harden's contract doesn't mean the Sixers 'lose' anything in terms of the trade itself...

AUTHOR

2022-02-21T05:00:07+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


How can you overpay for a player and still win? Sixers have become two dimensional. It will cost them.

2022-02-21T02:05:00+00:00

astro

Roar Rookie


And just quickly, this line made me laugh: "But hopefully he has spent six months practicing, particularly with his foul shots" You'd think Simmons had been shooting 1000 FTs a day, but we've been saying this now for 4-5yrs and he's never imrpoved...The idea that he'll come back under even MORE pressure and be an improved shooter, doesn't seem realistic. I really hope I'm wrong about that, though!! Would be awesome to see him improve. But its a major problem for the Nets if Simmons comes back and starts bricking FTs and avoiding getting fouled. That's a worst case scenario for them.

2022-02-21T02:00:53+00:00

astro

Roar Rookie


I actually think Philly won this trade...although they did overpay for it...but I don't think Morey cares. Simmons was a distressed asset. It wasn't that long ago, people were talking about a Simmons for CJ trade and saying Portland shouldn't do it. To go from there to Harden is an amazing win for Philly. Yes, Curry and the picks hurt (I personally think Drummond isnt that important - backup centers are easy enough to find), but Harden is brilliant and helps Philly immediately, as at least on paper, he is a perfect fit. The only real issues is if they sign Harden long term and the size of his contract at the back end, but again, Morey doesnt care about 4yrs time, he wants to win now. As for the Nets, their success is too dependent on too many variables for me. KD's health, Simmons FT shooting and confidence, Kyrie's behaviour and general strangeness (and that Brooklyn haven't offered him a new contract), too many old centres who are washed up, not enough defence outside Simmons and KD and Harris being out for the year. It all feels a little 'out of control' and could go pear-shaped pretty quickly...

AUTHOR

2022-02-20T22:13:44+00:00

Yattuzzi

Roar Rookie


Just saw Smith's rant now. At first, everybody was pro Sixers winning. But now I see it turning. You are on the money with the three favorites. Nets need a NY vaccine rule change (or to forcibly jab Irving) to be there.. if chemistry happens and young Kevin is back. I am still going to enjoy any Nets and Sixers games.

2022-02-20T15:03:53+00:00

Bell31

Roar Rookie


Nice one @Yatuzzi - I think it's a clear victory for the Nets (did you see Stephen A Smith's rant about Morey being fleeced by the nets!) --- I could understand adding Seth Curry to the trade, but not the two first round picks as well... if Simmons can just address his FTs, they will be a very good team. However, I think both Nets and 6ers are really very good 2nd tier teams this year - the mid-season nature of the trade and lack of conditioning / chemistry with each of Simmons / Harden will hold them back this season - they will give Warriors / Suns / Bucks / Heat etc a run for their money, but I don't think either team will be champions this year.

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