'Really disappointed in myself': Bryce Gibbs reveals regret at defence of Crows camp that 'ended careers'

By The Roar / Editor

Former Adelaide and Carlton star Bryce Gibbs has expressed his regret at previous comments defending the Crows’ infamous camp, becoming the latest player to reveal what occurred in early 2018.

Gibbs famously claimed he had been to ‘a lot worse camps’ at the Blues in an interview with The Age in 2018.

However, speaking to SEN SA, the 33-year old, who played 268 games across the two clubs before retiring in 2020, has admitted to being ‘really disappointed’ in himself for not speaking up against the camp at the time.

“Probably the most disappointing thing for mine was the post-game in the wash-up, when we were reflecting on it and guys started to speak up who had issues with what had happened and talking about their experiences and that this wasn’t great,” Gibbs said.

“This is where when I reflect; I feel like I was really disappointed in myself, because this is when I started to take a back seat.

“Watching guys stand up and say ‘this is not on, we need to address this, we need to tell people what happened’, they seemed to get shut down pretty quickly. And for me to see these guys, as brave as it was to get up there and try and have their peace and to get shut down – these guys had been at the club for a number of years, had a lot of respect within the group.

“I felt like if I was to get up and say something, how was I going to have much pull or much weight in it as I‘d only been there for five minutes?

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“On reflection, I’m disappointed I didn’t [speak up] because there was an opportunity there to support some of my mates as they went through a lot harder experiences emotionally than I did. So maybe it was easier for me just to sit back and not say anything.

“But reflecting on those comments or ongoing conversations, when we‘re trying to flush it out, I do regret not speaking up when I probably should have been a more experienced and senior player of that group.

“And it did fracture the playing group and fractured relationships in the football department, players lost trust with members in that football department.”

In the wake of Eddie Betts and Josh Jenkins‘ revelations during the week that the camp exploited their psychological trauma, Gibbs said his comparatively ‘great childhood’ gave him a completely different experience of the camp.

“Like others have stated during the week, I also took a call from a counsellor to talk about my childhood and past experiences. I actually thought this was a bit of a red flag as well from my point of view,” he said.

“During this interview process I actually didn‘t really disclose too much. I was pretty lucky enough to have a pretty good upbringing, a really great childhood, which I‘m very grateful for. So I didn’t have a lot of trauma, so to speak, growing up.

“Even still, knowing that, I was still pretty calculated in what I was telling this person – I didn’t trust them. I didn’t know them.

“I thought it was unusual to be doing that leading into a camp, so I was very calculated in what I said and didn’t really give too much away.

“I was disappointed with the way I handled it post the camp. I felt like I could have been a voice, I could have supported these guys more in a group environment in challenging some of the decisions that were made during this time.

“And if I had my time again, I would do things differently.”

Bryce Gibbs of the Crows looks dejected after a loss during the 2018 AFL round 01 match between the Essendon Bombers and the Adelaide Crows at Etihad Stadium on March 23, 2018 in Melbourne, Australia. (Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Media/Getty Images)

Gibbs provided further detail into the infamous ‘harness ritual’, saying the level of abuse he received during the process was a world apart to others.

 “I had my time on the harness and experienced what I experienced and it was completely different to what some of the other guys experienced on the harness,” he said.

“And it probably related back to me being pretty reserved in that counselors’ meeting. I didn‘t give too much away and I probably wasn‘t attacked with some of the stuff that other guys were attacked with.

“That made the experience for me probably a little bit easier on reflection. But there were certainly people in my face telling me that I left my old club and I was an average player and whatever, but I could cop that, I could get through that.

“But watching other players go through what they went through – that was pretty tough. I didn‘t really know what to do, I didn’t really know how to justify it, what to make of it.”

Gibbs also suggested that the Crows had pressured players into remaining silent about the camp at the time, reiterating Betts’ stance that the group were ‘brainwashed’ into keeping their mouths shut.

“We were educated by the camp people in terms of what to say to family and friends and other teammates. And then I think post the camp when players wanted to come out and speak, we were advised not to,” Gibbs said.

“Things were signed, documents were signed on their behalf by the club about confidentiality. And I think because there was the lack of governance around it, that people didn‘t act, people didn’t speak up – not knowing what would happen if they did.

“I think that’s why a lot of people probably played a straight bat in the media and tried to play it down, because if we’re not allowed to speak and if guys were worried about the ramifications of speaking and talking up, like, that plays a part in it as well.

“It made it extremely hard for guys to come out and actually say what had happened and that‘s why it’s lasted four years I suppose.”

Gibbs is in no doubt that the camp ‘fractured’ the playing group, reiterating Jenkins and Betts’ belief that a strong playing group that appeared in the previous season’s grand final was never the same.

He also said the camp and aftermath cut his career short.

“The way it fractured the group and the way the club declined, and our performance declined,” Gibbs said.

“Would I have played more games at the Adelaide Football Club if this camp didn‘t go ahead? Probably. Am I blaming the camp for my career ending the way it did? Absolutely not.

“Was it the start of things to come? Absolutely. It wasn‘t the be all and end all but I felt like the decisions made to do some of these things, it ended careers.

“The backlash it’s had for guys mentally, you can’t erase that from memory.”

The Crowd Says:

2022-08-09T01:29:40+00:00

AdamDilligafThompson

Roar Rookie


My apologies.lol. :laughing: Thats it hey animals are way better than what humans are thats for sure.

2022-08-09T00:58:32+00:00

Alchemist

Roar Rookie


That escalated quickly :laughing: People have very short memories especially when I comes to money. Don't get that with animals :stoked:

2022-08-09T00:29:42+00:00

AdamDilligafThompson

Roar Rookie


People really do have very short memory's sometimes dont they. I have a elephant tattooed on my forearm, one I love em and two like an elephant I never forget somebody thats done me wrong or done good by me plus I have a connection to south africa, just love animals in general and another reason or two that can't be written in a forum like this. TMI right, my bad.lol. :laughing:

2022-08-09T00:18:26+00:00

Alchemist

Roar Rookie


Also very quickly forgotten too. By the club's and AFL alike

2022-08-07T03:34:15+00:00

AdamDilligafThompson

Roar Rookie


Wow so he's staying saying nothing to see here move along basically.? 100% the players and the fans, its the fans that keep football clubs alive. I thought everybody learnt this through Rona and just how important we are to the game.

2022-08-07T02:29:23+00:00

Deneb1973

Roar Rookie


Have people read Graham Cornes on page 37 of the Advertiser (Advertiser.com.au) for August 7, 2022? The outrage that most fans and supporters feel for "The Camp" are minimized and derogated in his homage to times long ago when players endured far worse offenses and humiliations. He describes specific events at the camp without attribution. Who told him that his rendition of facts was correct since it obviously contradicts the public accounts of IDENTIFIED players? Was Mr. Cornes there and a witness to the events? He states that SafeWork SA and the AFL Integrity Unit conducted their own inquiry and "were provided all facts of the players' processes and interactions, including Eddie's." That assertion seems to directly contradict the statements of players, AFLPA and AFL. What part did the "old breed" of Footy players play in The Camp? The players and Crow supporters want to know who authorized The Camp and who is responsible for "The Coverup"? Don't the players whose careers were damaged if not ended have a right to know? Don't the Crow supporters?

2022-08-06T08:36:22+00:00

Charlie Keegan

Roar Guru


I say it like it’s a potential bad thing, I don’t want the unique experiences that were particularly harmful to Aboriginal Australians to be drowned out in the noise

2022-08-06T08:16:51+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


You say that like its a negative. Players were obviously pressured into keeping quiet. Players also felt their careers would be in jeopardy if they spoke out while still playing. Is it really all that surprising that only after a number of players have retired from playing that the speaking out has begun? It’s always hard being the first. It takes so much more courage. Once the dam wall is broke it gets easier and easier for others to tell their side because they’ve already been able to see the fall out or support of speaking out engenders.

2022-08-06T06:40:19+00:00

AdamDilligafThompson

Roar Rookie


The only thing worse than when your teams doing no good on the football field, is when those running it are doing an even worse job and stuffing up things that really shouldn't be that hard. Nearly tore us apart when the so called higher ups thought they knew what was best for the on ground and football side of things.

2022-08-06T06:38:49+00:00

Charlie Keegan

Roar Guru


Oh for sure but I can’t help but feel there is an element of opportunism from different players

2022-08-06T06:22:44+00:00

XI

Roar Guru


If ever there was a time for pile-on this is it. Needs to all come out so that it doesn't happen again

2022-08-06T03:29:09+00:00

Charlie Keegan

Roar Guru


Now it’s definitely a bit of a pile on but I think we need to hear from every player that went on the camp, indigenous, non indigenous, people with previous trauma and those without to get a scope about the malpractice of the Adelaide football club.

2022-08-06T03:08:33+00:00

Rowdy

Roar Rookie


This avoidance in what went down is killing my club. No wonder Gibb's homecoming fizzled. I understand Betts n Jenkins, l came from that end of town. We had an inquiry. A BS one. It's done nothing. We've lost players. We've got a trolley boy for a coach. I now know why there were no names applying to coach the Crows. We've got a new team management that knows about the whitewash and a former champ who's a management chump. I'd love to hear from Lever and Cameron.

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