Cummins wants video system reviewed, Agar not so horrible, No pink ball for SCG, Proteas optimistic: Talking Points

By The Roar / Editor

Pat Cummins says there has to be a better way for the third umpire to adjudicate on catches after Richard Kettleborough was forced to make three contentious decisions during the third Test.

SCG match umpires lodged reviews for three catches taken low to the ground in the slips at the SCG,.

On each occasion, third umpire Kettleborough found evidence the ball had touched the ground before the fielder was able to control it.

Consequently, none of the catches were paid.

Cummins’ teammates Marnus Labuschagne and Josh Hazlewood previously suggested the first step to changing the way such catches were officiated would be to scrap the on-field umpire’s soft signal, given the third umpire overturned it on two of the three occasions.

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“I don’t really know the answers but there has to be a way to try and improve it somehow,” Cummins said after the Test against South Africa ended in a draw.

Australia celebrate with the trophy. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

“As it currently stands, it’s really hard to give a batter out. If there’s any kind of benefit of the doubt, it goes the batter’s way.

“I think with a couple of camera angles really slowed down, it’s pretty hard to not find doubt somewhere. I do feel for Ketts a little bit up there.”

In making a decision, the third umpire only has access to footage from the host broadcaster, Fox Sports and not from Seven Network cameras.

“Maybe there’s more cameras we can use down the track,” Cummins said.

Proteas captain Dean Elgar was visibly frustrated when his side was on the receiving end of the first non-catch call but at stumps said he was pleased the umpires remained consistent throughout the match.

“The way the umpires conducted the three was pretty good. I think it was brilliant,” he said.

“Once you’ve set the bar with the first one, you can’t really budge much from there.

“Those things are always going to be a grey area, some guys will say out, some guys will say not out. At the end of the day, their decision is final and as players we respect that.”

Agar to get ticket to India

Ashton Agar is guaranteed a spot on next month’s tour of India, but Australia are no certainty to play two frontline spinners throughout the four-Test series.

Agar endured a difficult return to Test cricket after five years out in Sydney, bowling 22 wicketless overs as Australia failed in their bid to force a win against South Africa.

Captain Pat Cummins insisted afterwards on Sunday that the match was not an audition for India, particularly given the surface did not break up as expected after lengthy rain delays.

Australia will name their squad for the tour this week, with Agar expected to be one of four spinners alongside Nathan Lyon, Todd Murphy and Mitchell Swepson or Adam Zampa.

“I’m sure Ash will be there,” Cummins said.

“This wicket was a bit different to India. It wasn’t spinning out of the middle of the wicket. 

“Indian wickets sometimes really break up, even from the middle of the wicket. And left-arm orthodox becomes really effective against right-handed batters. 

“It was 800 runs (for the game) and three wickets for spin for the game (in Sydney). It wasn’t easy but I thought he bowled really well.”

Agar’s selection in Sydney indicated he had become the country’s second spinner ahead of Swepson, who debuted in Pakistan last year.

Australia played two spinners throughout their 2017 series loss in India, with Steve O’Keefe and Nathan Lyon each taking 19 wickets.

But the emergence of Travis Head alongside Steve Smith and Marnus Labuschagne could change that thinking.

Cummins admitted he had under-bowled Head at the SCG, with the offspinner Australia’s most threatening at times.

Australia played three pacemen throughout their last series win in India in 2004, with a heavy reliance on reverse swing.

Nathan Lyon. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

“Each game in India we might need to chop up differently. Maybe one game it is three quicks, another it is one quick,” Cummins said.

Cameron Green will be crucial to that as pace-bowling backup, with both he and Mitchell Starc hopeful to be back from fractured fingers by the second Test in Delhi.

Australia are adamant they have the best possible build up to the four-Test series starting on February 9 in Nagpur, after a 1-0 series win in Pakistan last year and 1-1 draw in Sri Lanka.

“We’re as good a chance as we’re ever going to be,” Cummins said. “No-one’s going over there blind … having the experience in Pakistan and Sri Lanka last year has put us in really good stead.

“It’s been another fantastic summer. This bowling attack, weathering the storm at the Gabba, then the MCG and then coming here (to the SCG), it’s different again. 

“The way our batting group have stood up has been fantastic.

“Other than this game in the shortened time frame, we’ve been able to get 20 wickets each Test match in different circumstances. I feel like we’re adapting really well.”

Pink ball not answer in Sydney, says skipper

Pat Cummins has discouraged Cricket Australia from reimagining the Sydney Test as a pink-ball fixture despite bad light contributing to the draw against South Africa.

A day-and-a-half’s worth of play was lost to wet weather and bad light at the SCG and Australia ran out of time on Sunday to bowl the Proteas out twice, despite looking on top for most of the match.

Day one was overshadowed by two bad light stoppages, the first of which came at only 2.15pm.

The delays led SCG Trust chair Tony Shepherd to suggest reconfiguring the annual SCG fixture as a day-night pink-ball Test could be a way to avoid future stoppages.

Shepherd also floated the possibility of simply substituting red balls for pink in the midst of a daytime Test if bad light made playing with the red ball untenable.

Pat Cummins. (Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

Cummins admitted the prospect of missing cricket was never ideal, but said it was not as simple as switching to a pink-ball contest.

“Pink ball is a huge change. It’s not like for like,” he told reporters. “I think here at the SCG it would be hard to play a pink ball just with how abrasive the wicket is. It moves really differently to the red ball. Personally, I would still like it to be a red ball. We don’t like missing overs. Maybe, if there is any chance of missing overs late, start earlier.”

Visiting Proteas captain Dean Elgar also urged caution.

“I think it’s taking the mickey a bit if you start with a red one and you change to a pink one,” he said. “Test cricket is known for the red ball. That’s why you grow up playing Test cricket, you want to play with the red ball. I still think authenticity and the uniqueness around the format needs to be respected.”

Elgar said playing on through darkness was not the answer, either.

“There were times (at the SCG) when honestly we couldn’t see the ball. That’s not over-exaggerating,” he said. “I know it’s a tough one and no-one has come up with a concept yet but player safety for me is important.

“Just imagine that happens, a guy gets hit at gully on the head and it’s dark, it’s raining. I mean, common sense needs to take over there.”

Proteas coach says they’re not far off best

South Africa coach Malibongwe Maketa believes the gulf between his side and the top Test nations is not as wide as it appears but the Proteas will have few opportunities to play catch-up because of a sparse red-ball schedule.

South Africa return home after a 2-0 series loss to Australia was wrapped up with a draw at the SCG.

Lacklustre batting thwarted the Proteas with highest score posted by a South African player being 65.

With the ball, South Africa took 38 wickets across the three Tests, compared to Australia’s 52. 

The Australian team was considerably more seasoned as well, having brought 258 more games of Test experience into the series finale, but interim coach Maketa said South Africa were not that far behind the Australians.

He was encouraged by the performance of his bowling unit and suggested that had the Proteas batters been able to form a solid partnership on a bowler-friendly Gabba wicket in the series opener, the match could have panned out differently.

“I can’t say it’s difficult, they’ve beaten us 2-0, to gauge the gap,” Maketa said.

“How big the gap is, it might feel big because of how we went about it in the first two Test matches but I don’t think it’s that big.

“If you look at our bowling attack and you look at the fact that we competed here, I really do believe (if) two batters put their hands up in that first Test, we win the game.”

But Maketa conceded as things stand, it would be difficult for his inexperienced side to begin taking steps to improve unless Cricket South Africa began scheduling more Test matches.

(Photo by Jason McCawley – CA/Cricket Australia via Getty Images)

The country’s new IPL-backed SA20 T20 league is due to begin its inaugural tournament in the coming days and South Africa is set to prioritise white-ball internationals in the months that follow it. 

In the next 12 months, South Africa is scheduled to play only four Tests. In that timeframe, Australia will play at least 12.

“I know Cricket South Africa is working hard on getting more and more Test matches for us,” Maketa said.

“It’s been said enough that we’d like to play more for us to grow and for these players to grow, they have to play. They need to be exposed.

“I felt we had enough first-class experience but that’s nowhere near enough to compete at this level.”

The Crowd Says:

2023-01-10T08:57:42+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


So, to sum-up: Ashton Agar should be in the test team because he was a squad player for some national white-ball squads earlier in the season which denied him the opportunity to not only play shield for WA but also run through opposing lineups, despite the fact that, even when available, he's rarely been picked for WA in recent years, and that when selected his form over the last four-to-five years has actually been worse than his already underwhelming career first-class record. Well, glad we got that cleared up. In other news, I'm off to collect my Nobel Prize for Literature in the morning. The Nobel Committee agreed that my day job has prevented me from becoming the next Gabriel Garcia Márquez.

2023-01-10T03:41:29+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


I think India will open up England for him too. It really depends on Cummins getting some tutelage about how to deploy spin.

2023-01-10T03:03:03+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


Unfortunately for Agar, the remainder of his career may well depend on how injury prone or not Cameron Green is.

2023-01-10T03:02:34+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


I think that's the reason too. However, when ball tracking is available, leave the rest and go straight to it. Incentivise the boffins to do better.

2023-01-10T03:02:15+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


My point exactly matt - we really needed a 3rd seamer as Agar is not a frontline spinner for mine. If Boland or Morris had played instead of Renshaw Agar's contribution would not have been as much under the microscope - but being the 4th bowler the spotlight was on him and he frankly failed to deliver. If Boland or Morris has taken no wickets for the match there would have been serious questions asked about their future.

2023-01-10T03:00:26+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


If he's used properly, it's quite likely. He is a skilled bowler.

2023-01-10T02:47:10+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


I think it’s partly a stalling tactic as it takes some time for ball tracking to load?

2023-01-10T02:42:36+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


I miss the January 50 overs tournaments.

2023-01-10T02:40:43+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


“ His last 7 overs went for 11 runs after being the 2nd most economical in the first dig.” It’s almost as if he bowls like a containing specialist limited overs bowler… in terms of results it reminds me of Xavier Doherty. For me I’m happy for Agar to bat 7 and be the fifth bowler, but I don’t see him taking enough wickets to warrant his place as a bowler alone.

2023-01-10T02:38:35+00:00

jameswm

Roar Guru


Both. If Cam Green is not fit, one of Handscomb/Renshaw plays, and you play Lyon and 3 quicks, and Head, Marnus and Smudge are the 5th bowler.

2023-01-10T02:30:38+00:00

matth

Roar Guru


Or is Renshaw the back up?

2023-01-10T01:08:16+00:00

The Bush

Roar Guru


Good memory Grand. We're a similar age and that one does stick out in the memory, but as you say, it was a dead rubber. New Zealand won a live test against us in 2011-12, but as it was only a two test series, no one went on to 'win' the series. We must have lost dead rubbers earlier in the 2000s that just don't stick out in my mind. I still don't feel we've lost a test at home and then gone on to win the series since the '90s, but I'd love for someone to recall a more recent example.

2023-01-10T00:25:18+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


No Don. Its highlighting Agar's inadequacies as a spin bowler and the poor decision by the selectors not to play a third seamer. The fact that Agar even played highlights the lack of depth in our spin bowling stocks. And it also highlights that the SCG isn't the spinning minefield that warranted a second front line spinner.

2023-01-10T00:09:57+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


You've answered your own argument; such an obvious answer it didn't need to be argued. Agar was not the reason they didn't win in 3 days. He bowled well...despite not being bowled in his role.

2023-01-10T00:02:51+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


Agar is not the sort of bowler required when you need to take 20 wickets in a day and a half. But to be fair - Agar's selection would not have been questioned as much if Boland or Morris had played instead of Renshaw. And if so much time hadn't been lost to rain and bad light.

2023-01-09T23:49:39+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


It's why he should be released...as should have Harris. If you're not going to play, get a game for your state to stay in touch.

2023-01-09T23:48:08+00:00

Don Freo

Roar Rookie


Of course Agar is a defensive bowler. That's his role. Head replaced Lyon at the crease.

2023-01-09T23:32:00+00:00

Geoff from Bruce Stadium

Roar Rookie


I used to really enjoy watching Graeme Swann bowling for England - the way he used to set batsmen up with variations in flight, spin and the use of the arm ball. He used to get a lot of batters caught at slip or bowled or LBW - very smart bowler. Tim May had a great arm ball as well. The use of the arm ball as a bowling weapon for off spinners is something Lyon has never really grasped - despite all his experience. And Derek Underwood should be the model for Agar to follow - bit quicker than most spinners but deadly on pitches offering a bit of assistance. Always put the ball in areas that challenged the batsman rather than just trying to contain them.

2023-01-09T23:30:04+00:00

Redcap

Roar Guru


But Agar hasn't been playing much first-class cricket for a few years now - I'm not sure blaming the selectors really works in this case.

2023-01-09T23:29:49+00:00

JamesH

Roar Guru


Swepson's figures in Pakistan didn't exactly suggest he was bowling hand grenades either. It's almost as if the surface plays a role... I'm a fan of Cummins' captaincy to date. I just don't know why he was preferring Agar to lefties and Lyon to right-handers. It might have been that he felt they could get more turn back into the batters from the rougher areas towards the edges of the pitch. But I think it's a valid question to ask.

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