Leniu to face judiciary over alleged 'monkey' racial slur, heated hotel confrontation revealed, Tuqiri blasts Robbo

So, in other words, nothing.

There's a lot of 'shades of grey' so to speak.. I was surpised to hear Tom Elliot on 3AW call them both black. If thats not casual racism then what is..

Thats building up slowly, as it used to be full on in the old days, I'm going back to the late 60's early 70's :laughing:

Unfortunately, GB the 'liberal hivemind ideology’ is part of the course in universities around Australia as these kids have no idea of Marxism or what they are being taught, as their institutions are run by these ideologies and are keeping quite while the billions of foreign money and influence is funding them. Our university institutions have been completely taken over right across the board in Australia by Marxists and woke ideologies that is as bad or worse than what its in Europe or America.

Here we go with the usual "I’m going to take a punt here and say that you’re Caucasian, aren’t you?" Why would you say that and take a punt that its a white fella? is it because being a Caucasian is the norm to racism, as todays racial environment is filled with total nonsense that whites are the racists and have all the white privilege and if ever "god forbid" any white person is ever racist all hell will break lose, which is very sad and wrong! Let the NRL sort this out as no matter what they decide unless its a complete ban for the 2024 season, no one will be happy, let's see what happens? As far as I'm concerned, a 10-week suspension is a good line in the sand, especially when there is no definite proof or sound that Leniu said those words.

I am not sure how monkey on its own is a racial term, he didn't say he was an [insert colour] monkey, which would be offensive. HTFU.

The term 'Liberal' is not in reference to its Australian political meaning, referring to conservative policies and values but rather to the association of that term in American politics and the 'lunatic left'. Hivemind (urban dictionary): Someone that will agree to whatever a group of people say because they want to fit in and can't think for themselves. The 'liberal hivemind' phenomenon is analogous to the psychological phenomenon 'Groupthink'. Wiki: Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Cohesiveness, or the desire for cohesiveness, in a group may produce a tendency among its members to agree at all costs. This causes the group to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation. Groupthink is a construct of social psychology but has an extensive reach and influences literature in the fields of communication studies, political science, management, and organizational theory. The 'liberal hivemind ideology' is cultural Marxism masquerading as social reform and an 'enlightened' value system that seeks to silence and marginalise all dissenting voices and contrary opinions. It seeks to control free speech, censor public discourse and critical thought and impose its own value system on Western civilisation. Does that answer your question Tim?

What's a liberal hivemind ideology?

Manly especially

Its needs to be high enough to suggest that players should never go there. I hope he gets 12 weeks. Lets face it its easier to stop making racist comments than avoid high tackles.

Hangings too good for him. Seriously this is a huge test for the NRL. Many eyes will be watching on how they react. A precedent needs to be set to show that this sort of behaviour can no longer be tolerated. Leniu wanted to shrug his shoulders and say its just a bit of harmless onfield banter . But its neither acceptable and will no longer be tolerated - so hats off to Mam and the Broncos players for calling him out. Sounds like the Roosters have found another nut case to join JWH and Victor Radley.

Where did Leniu learn that behaviour, though, LP? You sidestepped that, didn't you? That behaviour was sanctioned at the Panthers with their win at any cost, laugh in a player's face and get under their skin style of Ivan Cleary influenced behaviour. They call it 'swagger' but really they are just D***heads.

"How does it change if the victims are told to simply ignore it?" The answer, I'm sure you are aware of, is... it doesn't!

"Sorry but it is still simple name calling and is easily ignored." As someone, like you, who is non-indigenous, I can understand why it is impossible for us to put ourselves in the shoes of someone who constantly has to feel persecuted and singled out just because of the colour of their skin. Surely, in 2024 as a society, we have progressed beyond such Neanderthal concepts? I don't go into all this 'white privilege' woke nonsense, especially having listened to plenty of black conservatives in the US who decry these false claims that are a manipulation of statistics, not supported by facts and are always driven by a woke agenda and a liberal hivemind ideology. However, there are limits, and you don't need a Mensa IQ to work out that Spencer Leniu crossed a line that should never be crossed.

"Being teased about your hair colour is a lot different to being called a monkey" 100% :thumbup:

Growing up in Redfern in the 70's and living there until the mid 80's if you tried that BS on an indigenous person back in the day, you would get your ass handed to you, and rightly so. Racial vilification is beyond the pale (outside the limits of acceptable behaviour or judgement). The same goes for vilifying someone for their s3xual preference. Bagging the heck out of Roosters and Panthers supporters is perfectly fine though and should be actively encouraged. :laughing:

You are a class act and consistent with your views as always, Dutski. Frankly, if Leniu was playing for Souths, then I would think that was punishment enough without invoking the end of the Rabbitohs season. :silly: I agree, players should be punted from the game if these allegations have sufficient proof or witnesses to support the claim. Often there are a handful of players from both teams who would be in a position to verify these claims.

It was a play that made regular dumb look smart! Firstly, there is NO excuse for it. But then there was also no need for it, where the only likely result was to tarnish a win for the Roosters if it didn't first result in firing up the Broncos to finish over the top of the chooks. At the end of the day, Leniu owed the club, the fans and his teammates more than just winding back the clock and pretending he was a Panthers' player who could get away with murder without repercussions.

It seems that only the 'NRL Triumvirate Plus One' (including the Broncos if Reece Walsh gets off) are granted a free pass on these occasions. Can you imagine the outcry in the comments section if Latrell Mitchell had been guilty of either of these offences (Leniu/Walsh)? Admittedly, a racial vilification charge against Latrell would be hard to imagine. But you get my point.

IF true, I would think around 4 wk ban. Innocent until proven guilty. This needs to play out through the judiciary in a proper process.