Somebody call Mr Chow, there’s a fourth version of The Hangover playing out.
All four teams who took part in the NRL’s Las Vegas extravaganza to kick off the season have been below their best since returning to home soil.
The Rabbitohs have been downright dreadful, the Roosters and Broncos are also out of the top eight while Manly have been hot and cold at best, splitting their four matches in Australia to be the best placed of the Hangover quartet in seventh.
Clubs are currently jockeying for positions to be the four teams who will kick off the 2025 season in Vegas. They should be careful what they wish for.
The Vegas gamble may not be worth it.
Penrith were also flat when they started their third straight premiership defence in Melbourne after they also flew to the other side of the planet for their World Club Championship final against Wigan. A long way to go to be denied by a dodgy refereeing decision.
South Sydney’s decline has been rapid since they were run down by Manly in the second half at Allegiant Stadium.
Injuries, lacklustre form by everyone not named Cameron Murray and now the suspension to Latrell Mitchell have contributed to their swift spiral into last place.
Perhaps this drop-off was always on the cards but nobody saw it coming when it was time to put in pre-season predictions.
The signs aren’t good for Jason Demetriou who could end up the Zach Galifianakis in this Vegas plotline.
With the Bunnies having the bye after this Saturday night’s clash with Cronulla, the outbreak of reporting that suggests Demetriou’s time could be up is not coincidental.
Joseph Manu runs the ball at Allegiant Stadium. (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)
The silence has been deafening from South Sydney’s top brass amid talk that Demetriou could get the punt – that usually happens when executives at a club don’t want to look like hypocrites by giving a beleaguered coach “the full support of the board” before the inevitable occurs.
Brisbane have gone 2-2 after losing first up to the Roosters and injuries have again been a contributor to their modest returns so the Vegas venture can’t definitively be blamed for the slide to 11th spot for last year’s runners-up.
They might get Reece Walsh back from his facial fracture this Friday against the Dolphins and they should be fine in the long run unless Payne Haas and Adam Reynolds continue to be dogged by injuries.
So there’s no real cause for concern in BrisVegas just yet.
Manly have also been hot and cold since returning to this side of the Pacific Ocean.
They redeemed their reputation last week by putting the Panthers away but their losses to Parramatta and particularly St George Illawarra could prove costly later in the year when the playoff seedings are determined.
Of the teams who are in the chasing bunch behind Penrith, they are probably the hardest to get a gauge on. When they have Tom Trbojevic firing on the back of Daly Cherry-Evans’ creativity, they look like world beaters but the following week they look like also-rans.
If all goes to plan they could challenge for the minor premiership but you could also see them missing the playoffs altogether if they can’t at least establish some semblance of dependability.
Like their 1908 rivals in red and green, the Roosters have also been in a malaise for the most part since their Stateside sojourn.
They were impressive in getting the better of Brisbane in the US but have since lost to Manly, a Panthers side without Nathan Cleary and the lowly Bulldogs.
They racked up a thumping win over the Rabbitohs in Round 3 but that formline doesn’t hold much water in light of South Sydney’s ongoing woes.
There has been plenty said about the Roosters’ culture of success in recent years and how they have high standards that everyone in the club on and off the field has to maintain. The Roosters’ Way, in title case, if you believe the PR spin.
It’s all well and good to say those things but the guidelines appear somewhat rubbery.
Latrell Mitchell of the Rabbitohs and Tom Trbojevic compete for the ball in Vegas. (Photo by Ezra Shaw/Getty Images)
When the forward pack needs a boost, someone with the background of Matt Lodge can be brought in. And then punted when it all turns sour.
If there’s a bunch of injuries in the outside backs, Michael Jennings is welcomed back with open arms despite the convicted performance-enhancing drugs user being ordered to pay a civil settlement to his former wife for multiple allegations of sexual and emotional abuse during their relationship.
The NRL has made the right call by cancelling any form of celebration for Jennings for his 300th match when the Roosters take on the Knights in Newcastle on Thursday night.
If the Roosters’ culture was all that it is made out to be, there wouldn’t have been a decision to make because he wouldn’t have been allowed back to a club with real standards.
Rosie
Roar Rookie
Sorry I meant in the forwards
jimmmy
Roar Rookie
Fair point . Truthfully I have no idea but you would have to say it hasn't hurt.
Panthers
Roar Rookie
At least every team playing each other once , before any second games against one side. ( Then a draw for the clubs who you play twice that year before the season starts ), those teams you then play after playing everyone once. Makes for a more even draw overall. As it’s unlikely that there’ll ever be playing every side twice. Then the teams that you play twice also varies from year to year. Who cares if all Queensland sides don’t play each other twice every year.
Panthers
Roar Rookie
Has it helped? Or did they just win for a few years regardless? . The same as Melbourne are up there every year regardless.
farkurnell
Roar Rookie
So that would explain Trells recent form - still blinded by the Bright Lights
Gamechanger
Roar Rookie
They shouldn’t go to Vegas next year. Too many distractions. Go to New York , play there and in their spare time help out the homeless. Instead of gambling away their earnings.
Gamechanger
Roar Rookie
Depends on how much money they blew in Vegas BG. There could be some financial pain
Gamechanger
Roar Rookie
Las Vegas was always going to be problematic. Particularly for young players with a developing Emotional IQ. Players were blinded by the bright lights and saw wine women song and poker machines to blow their substantial earnings.Distractions aplenty. Football was an afterthought. A hangover was predictable. The Hangover Quartet isn’t producing a football symphony at this point. It’s more like an out of tune pub band.
jimmmy
Roar Rookie
Paul assures me it's hoc ex eo sequitur, but I reckon he could be Sillius Soddus.
jimmmy
Roar Rookie
I agree with most of that . I had them 8th. But surely Wighton was their big signing.
jimmmy
Roar Rookie
But the ' tough' draw seems to have helped Penrith. Four GFs in a row and three wins plus a love chance in 24 . Other teams should be saying ' hey our draw is not tough enough'.
Redcap
Roar Guru
I'm referring to a logical fallacy, not a chronology.
Horses for Courses
Roar Rookie
Either that or he's watched the first season of The West Wing.
KenW
Roar Rookie
In fairness plenty had speculated beforehand that going to Vegas could disrupt the start of the season, based on the experience of WCC combatants. So not completely post-hoc.
KenW
Roar Rookie
The Broncos and Rabbits have played 3x finalists from last year and 2x non-finalists. The Roosters and Sea Eagles have played 2x finalists from last year and 3x non-finalists. That's about as even as it gets.
KenW
Roar Rookie
I always find the hard draw argument pretty weak. Who is strong or weak changes week-to-week yet alone season-to-season. matth is pretty much right that only a full home and away is fair, even then though we have form, injuries, travel, SoO, etc that mean you can get a better shot at different times. Manly just beat Penrith in round 5 was a good result by any measure but it was a good time for it too. Form and injury clouds over a few players, a certain halfback missing, a locked in contender in accumulation mode early in the year. It was a good win regardless but there would be far worse times to take your shot.
Slammin_Sam
Roar Rookie
Did he just compare the roosters situation the same as the rabbits? Is Paul Suttor really GB in disguise or even ash Klein!!@
farkurnell
Roar Rookie
That’s NRL speak for - what a load of crap
Dumbo
Roar Rookie
It’s reassuring to see at least one of our fellow Roarers has had the benefit of a classical education.
matth
Roar Guru
Unless all teams play each other home and away we are always going to have uneven draws. Especially when the NRL wants (for example) to have all the QLD teams play each other twice. In some years that could lead to an easy draw and in others a hard draw, but what it never is, is a fair draw.