England vs Australia: 4th Ashes Test, Day 2 live scores

rubbish the toss is always or often huge and england have won all 4 just is what it is they've had that constant advantage of getting Aus in under less favorable conditions several times I'm afraid your wrong naki

head shouldn't have been hooking at that opeo straight to the fielder he was baited once again not smart enough to avoid the set up

morover to the comment you said I wouldn’t want a new wa batsmen in the side which is why I gave you a serve as your the only one with state bias as you keep bringing it up on roar not me

don you took the biscuits there referring back to 2011. thing is I have a headline article on here suggesting he play last ashes on 2019 not comments

Head was actually getting some turn and beat the edge a couple of times but obviously could not control his length. Murphy could have been massive in this match.

He has not had a significant injury because he has not been bowling a lot. He had to bowl more than 10 overs a couple of weeks ago for the first time in ages and he got hurt. If you played sport you would understand that after you get an injury to do not immediately do something more intense than the thing that caused that injury. If you hurt yourself jogging the first thing you do when you are able to jog again is not a sprint. Again, if you have ever played any kind of sport, this would be obvious to you.

Of course he is not being managed. He hasn't had a significant injury since he was a teenager. A 'slight strain' two weeks ago doesn't need management. If you watched it last night you would understand. You are discussing a cricket issue with the frame of reference of a jellyfish. Get some experience. You need to play sport. Perhaps then you'll understand it.

I don't care about Langer. It was fine to replace him. The person they chose was a ridiculous choice...as current leadership is showing. Introducing Langer into this performance is really weird.

"He bowled 6 overs on the trot" It was five on the trot and 10 for the day. He has just missed a match with a hamstring strain after bowling 13 overs. He is being managed. Your quest to criticise the captain is forcing you to clasp at ridiculous straws.

CA INQUIRY needed after this series. There are tensions in the Australian side. Yes underlying tensions, that management are trying to mask 1.continued selection of Warner 2. Selection of Green for this test3. Non selection of Neser.4. Persistent belief in Hoff being fit, when not. 5. Team frustrations with field placements. 6. Marsh not being bowled early enough in this test to Crawley was downright bizarre. 7. A loss of confidence in Cummins captaincy. 8. Conflicts over how to handle Bazball. 9. The significant upset as a result of the abuse at Lords. It was more traumatic than we have been led to believe 10. Was it wise to have a holiday before the fourth test.?All of this points to an inquiry after this test as mandatory.

Yes underlying tensions, 1. continued selection of Warner 2. Selection of Green for this test3. Non selection of Neser.4. Persistent belief in Hoff being fit, when not. 5. Team frustrations with field placements. 6. Marsh not being bowled early enough in this test to Crawley was downright bizarre. 7. A loss of confidence in Cummins captaincy. 8. Conflicts over how to handle Bazball. 9. The significant upset as a result of the abuse at Lords. 10. Was it wise to have a holiday before the fourth test.?All of this points to an inquiry after this test as mandatory.

You're not even close to the conversation. He bowled 6 overs on the trot in his second spell. No one has any issue with his fitness. He can bowl and he can bowl long spells. The issue is that Cummins did not bowl him at all during a 200 run stand. He finally threw the ball to him after 50 odd overs and a 200 run partnership and Green dismissed Crawley immediately and then put real pressure on the remaining batsmen, slowing the scoring.

I was never in favor of handing Captaincy to a bowler, I think Smith or Usman would be much better. But now that Cummins is a captain, he has my complete support. And with Langer, I’m a big fan, but not one eyed. What happened was silly and not handled well by most parties Langer included, but Cummins I thought handled it with lot of grace.

Then why are you making easy for England with your crazy selections ..green playing in this game really . That not smart ..then we could talk about your weak opener David .. oh so picking him all he time ..in the last two years he averages 26 that with a double century lol . So it’s come down to the toss ..Cummings looks burn out .. Scotty has been hopeless .. sorry but there been cracks in your line up now been exposed ..got nothing to do with the toss ..

A rough day. As the grade cricketer podcast said, we got Bazballed f’n hard. And Crawley got lucky at first then went on with it. Aussies looked tired, very odd. And why did Marsh not get a bowl when the ball was still hard? England will only need 4 sessions to finish us off, Aussies almost look like they’ve bought into the weather forecast too much. Maybe King Charles ordered the weather people to falsely say there would be rain to lull Aus into overlooking a spinner and not playing hard? Those darn colonial oppressors!

Green has just returned from injury, no? Binary thinking is really hurting you. The choices are not between Green bowling 25 overs in a day or him never playing cricket ever again. He can be bowled a bit, and see how he pulls up. If there are no problems he can be bowled a bit more in the next test, and so on. You really do not understand sport, do you? I doubt that you ever played. Silly.

Nup. Where does that fit into your argument? That is as dumb as your whole line of argument. We have no sport at all if you don't let fit players play for fear that they might get injured. Surely you can see how silly that is.

You reckon the second Lyon’s calf starts feeling OK he is going to start sprinting and bowling 30 overs in the nets, or will he build up his workload gradually?

What are you trying to argue? Maybe Nathan Lyon should never have played at test because, " look what it did to his calf!" You need to understand sport better.

Yes, and he did not have a hamstring strain at the start of the second test either. Something must have happened between the start of the second test, and the start of the third test, that caused him to get a hamstring strain.