An ACL win could be a big loss for the Reds

At Hindmarsh all of the signage is temporary, all that is required is putting up the boarding for the correct sponsors. The stadium already is known only as Hindmarsh Stadium - it has no conflicting naming rights. AUFC being better off by losing is such a laughable prospect that one wonders how drunk the writer was during the period they were composing their piece.

Should correct win the final get $1.5m not $1.2m. Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFC_Champions_League

Excellent work - thank you! Cleaning the signage usually involves obscuring the signs - with some sort of opaque covering, so I can't see how $20k is being spent! Additionally, I know for a fact - having attended all 9 ACL matches in Melbourne - that many of external Etihad signs were not required to be "cleaned".

According to my calculations this is the prizemoney and travel allowance: Adelaide 4 wins and draw group stage is $40k a win x 4 = $160k plus $20k for drawing is $180k in prizemoney. 3 Away games travel Subsidy is $30k per game = $90k. Second Round get a participation fee of $50k (Plus $40k travel subsidy not required for Adelaide) Quarter Final get a $80k participation fee plus $50k travel allowance Therefore prizemoney guaranteed will be $310k plus travel of $140k (home and away QF) = $450k for making QF. Note: The fee for second round onwards is a participation fee you get it win or lose. Add Crowd Revenue say first round 5,000 at $20 each $100k, Second Round - 10,000 at $20 each = $200k would be another $500k, add I would say on past history around 14,000 to 15,000 for QF potential for another $300k (I assume higher ticket prices) Therefore I would get $1.2m to $1.3m in revenue. Now depends on the costs from here. To "clean" a stadium as big as Hindmarsh is $20k? That is some expensive sign writers there. Of course helps if you win in the early stages. Hit the Semi Finals is $120k participation fee ($60k travel) and hit the Grand Final get $750k for losing and $1.2m for winning ($60k travel). Plus World Club Championships if you win. In 2008 they did not have this prizemoney in the early rounds, total prizemoney was $4m, it is now $14m in US (now $AUD dropping even make a exchange gain). And you want to go out in the second round, why?

GA, never let logic and common sense come in the way of a good story. Asian Champions League is bad!!!!! It costs money and the clubs participating don't earn revenue for free!!!

This article is disengenuous, in 2008 AUFC only lost money because it had to give the vast majority of its prize money to the FFA for disbursements to the other clubs. Now they retain all prize money earnt. Also the costs they have encurred are between $300,000 and $400,000 - yet they have already exceeded that amount in prize money before you take into consideration the income from ticket sales. So I am yet to see why they have lost money by competing in the AFCCL and getting to the quater finals.

I think we dont want to hear what we know tristan , I remember watching Sydney FC last year in a champs lge game at home against chinese or korean opponents and due to the GFC they slashed their marketing budget back from something like 10 mill a year back to 7 something like that, it was staggering just on promoting their image . It's strange to support this sport at times it financially demorilises at times, and tevez wont take to the pitch , I think most who follow the sport would have know that Con would've been struggling for a while with the jets ,it's terrible to think that boycotting a tournament could financially ease pressure on clubs, i've heard of stranger things happening in the sport .

Don't patronise me TR I read the SBI article, The competition is a tool, an expensive one, but a definite tool towards building a positive image for the game and the clubs involved. Football unfortunately has an image in Australia of being a 'foreign sport'. What better way to turn that on its head than to represent our country taking on the best Asia has to offer and beat them. Aussies are parochial and love to beat the world at sport. Ask anybody at the game last night if they were thinking of finances as they cheered like mad at the final whistle? Usually reading comments from the general population on a sokkah article in the Advertiser makes me angry, but take a gander at these: http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/soccer/jon-mckain-puts-adelaide-united-through-to-asian-champions-league-quarter-final/comments-e6frectc-1226373039422 Its been a while since I've read a "Who cares its only Soccer comment"- just saying;) The boost to the image of the club would surely be worth the coin it cost for the Reds to once again make it happen on the Asian Stage. In only 7 years AU have already developed a reputation for being able to represent on the continental stage. A Reputation that could well prove invaluable when it comes to selling corporate boxes and sponsorships for the next HAL season.

Some interesting comment from various quarters but one has to go back to the original European Cup to draw a comparison. Started in 1955 it struggled for a while to gain acceptance but one factor emerged that could not be denied by a "football - mad" Europe & that was the emergence of the first "super" team,Real Madrid, who actually won the first 5 trophies on offer.Such was the pedigree in that team over those 5 years, that when the culmination point arrived in 1960, (their fifth win),the final between the Spanish champions & the German champions, drew 127,000 to watch in "neutral" Glasgow.By that time Real were an "international" identity with players from around the world performing,Di Stefano,Puskas,Santa Maria& Canario allied to 3 or 4 Spanish internationals.Money had entered the game in a big way. Their opponents, Eintracht, a "home-grqwn" German team, had also contributed to the overall attraction by thrashing Scotland's own representatives, Rangers, in the semi-finals with a 12-4 aggregate score over the home & away configuration.(Note the number of goals scored). So the scene was set &, in a never to be forgotten final,another 10 goals were scored with Real bagging 7. It would be correct to say the European Cup/or Championship never took a backward step from that evening becoming the pinnacle of achievement in European football. The game has changed much from those days of course but the EC has always maintained it's interest through countless changes in circumstances,tragedies.& tactical application but one can never forget that in that wonderful 5th year with 4 teams involved, (Barcelona being the other semi-finalist), the 5 match semi final &final series attracted 470,000 to the games & those great crowds saw 33 goals scored in those 5 games.(Obviously "fear" had not entered the minds of the combatants). Compare this to what Adelaide have done in their successful run - P 7, W 5, D1,L1, Scored 8 Conceded 2. As you can see it takes something special to break the nexus & it may be we will have to wait a while for the Asian Championship to come up with it's own "magical moments". jb

At the end of the day they won. And I am glad. Debate be damned.

Kasey, old friend, $50k doesn't touch the sides of what it costs to play an ACL game. Did you not read the article linked earlier? It costs $20k just to change the sponsorship signs at the grounds eg Hindmarsh. $50k in travel costs isn't enough for an Australian away team to do a round-trip. Think of flying & transporting 20+ people to Japan from Adelaide and then putting them up in a hotel. The mind boggles really. I'm struggling to understand why people can't see this as not necessarily the greatest thing since sliced bread. I enjoyed it when the Jets were in the ACL - but it just about ruined poor old Con, who, it must be said, was Conning everyone including himself about how much $ he had. It's nothing on the prestige and the glory - the money is the issue here.

Just under 10k at Hindmarsh on a Tuesday night to watch AUFC v Nagoya Grampus, which is slightly MORE than AUFC's average home crowd in the HAL this season. That should be the aim - to have ACL crowds similar to HAL crowds.

Great get mid , I must admit I searched everywhere and as fuss mentioned I started to get suscpicious when there wasnt a link " I was throw'n the shoulders back there for a while " . I wonder if Nagoya will have a roll around tonight .

I agree....it should be seen as an investment in the future of our game in Australia,there will definitely be rich rewards down the track. The 'dinosaurs' of the written press will be gone, all we have to do is hold our nerve.

Adelaide Advertiser have been piss poor this time kasey. go u reds

Maybe I should post on the SBS forum and not say anything for a while...

Fuss Its off season we have to do something to keep ourselves amused... on the the Hal club I tho you did not like SFC...

I must admit I just clicked without looking & nearly fell off my chair. But, I did wonder how CCM could afford him & why you posted a screenshot rather than putting the actual link to the original article! Very clever. PS: You know that only 1 HAL team is capable of the "big-name player signings" ;-)

heheheheheh can't you see its on phoyobucket... a regular poster on our forum posted it today ... sent it into overdrive... so I extended the joke... have a look it is very well done..

Im not sure we don't embrace the ACL but people really can't afford to go to two games of Football in a week during the peak of our season and if its a choice between the League and the ACL people will go to the A-League match on the weekend.Im not sure if clubs have been putting together packages in the past but i hope Tony Sage considers doing something like a two game deal for say $40 i would personally find that a great deal.