Does it strike anyone as strange that Shane Warne isn’t coaching Australia’s spinners on this tour of India?
Is it unusual that an Australian spin coaches haven’t been appointed full time since Warney retired in 2007.
It has been five or six years and we have Nathan Lyon as our best spin prospect. How is this possible?
Something is not right! Is it that we don’t have enough money in Australian Cricket?
I have an idea. Get a sponsor and call it the BHP Australian Spin Kings Programme for goodness sake.
Correct me if I am wrong but names such as Xavier Doherty, Ashton Agar, Michael Beer, Aaron O’Brien, Steve O’Keefe, Chris Lynn bowl left arm orthodox and could be coached by anyone from Ray Bright to Bishen Bedi to Monty Panasar.
Names such as Cameron Boyce, Adam Zampa, James Muirhead, David Warner, Steve Smith and others could be taught by Warnie.
Names such as Nathan Lyon and Glenn Maxwell and other off spinners could work with Murali, Ash Mallett or Saqlain Mushtaq.
Why is Cricket Australia dragging the chain on the Australian spin programme?
Why in 5-6 years have we not got two spinners who could be picked in a Test Match, in India of all places?
Whiteline
Guest
No money in it lads. Langer was paid less than $150k in his role with CA ....why would you do that?
JGK
Roar Guru
CA can't pay Warne enough for an official role.
kurt83
Roar Rookie
Nice article Art..... But I would go one step further... I would like Warnie to be full-time coach of the team (and not just spin). He has the best cricket brain in world cricket by a long shot... the only reason he wasn't captain during his playing days is that he is not a so called "role model".... I think we all get way too caught up on this
Christo the Daddyo
Guest
I suspect he simply got lucky. My take on Warne's skills is that he is simply naturally gifted at leg-spin bowling. And so even if he actually wanted to, he'd probably find it difficult to explain what another player should be doing.
Christo the Daddyo
Guest
Why does the media keep referring to this "manifesto"? That implies Warnie gave it more than give minutes thought... Perhaps "ramblings", "thought bubble", or "gibberish" could be substituted?
mick the clown
Guest
Because Warnie knows it would be a waste of time. Even were we to have better spinners than Lyon, Lyon (the favourite of clarke) will continue to be chosen
matt h
Guest
To be fair he did coach the Royals, who were rank outsdiders, to the first IPL title. But I suspect that was as much about man management, confidence building and field placings as technical coaching.
arthur fonzarelli
Guest
Great player rarely equals great coach.
Bearfax
Guest
I suspect Warne's antipathy with the administrators of cricket in this country would alone be sufficient reason for his absence from being a guiding light to our spinners. I understand that he has coached some players on a one to one level for brief periods of time, but I think Warne's agenda is far too full at this time, even if Cricket Australia could swallow its pride and offer him a coaching position.
Chui
Guest
Maybe it's easier for Warne to just sit on the sidelines and snipe at the current system. Easier to just release a 'manifesto' every so often without actually having to put your reputation and name on the line. If he felt that strongly, surely he would happily give up a portion of his earning capacity to something he really believes in. A bit like batting at eleven and instructing your number 10 not to chase a total ;)
Christo the Daddyo
Guest
Agree with steggz. Art Pagonis - have you any evidence that Warne has any coaching ability? Not disputing his playing ability, but there are plenty of examples in many sports of great players who couldn't coach. Just look at Fittler in the NRL as a classic example of that. And he's never given any indication that he would want the job even if he had the skills and was asked. He seems to want to be Hurley's handbag, play poker, do the odd bit of commentating and take potshots at CA.
steggz
Roar Rookie
Warney doesn't strike me as the type of guy who can actually coach.
Timmuh
Roar Guru
It certainly doesn't strike me as "strange". He wants to live a lot of his time in the UK, and has other commitments. I can certainly understand him not wanting to be a coach, and it may be that he isn't good at it either. Great players do not always make good coaches. He does seem to turn up at training and speak to players at times, maybe that is all we can expect from him.
LK
Guest
You are assuming he wants to be Australian Spin Coach. He was hard pressed committing to one whole season of BBL, which is 6 weeks. He had a Xmas sabbatical in the middle of the BBL season, remember? I can't imagine him wanting to be at Cricket Australia's beck and call when he has other things going on eg, commentating, poker tournaments, hair transplant spokesperson duties etc.
josh
Roar Rookie
Are they? Coaches are supposed teach/instruct on how to play the game. Not how to live life. Two issues: A) The spin coach doesn't pay enough compared to existing media commitments and poker sponsorship. B) Warne has a natural talent. Sure he was guided by Jenner about the finer points of spin bowling and different deliveries. But he had a good platform to begin with. I'm not sure he fully comprehends some players need that extra push to make it too the next level. See his comments about Buchanan.
Redb
Roar Guru
Maybe we should taken up Warnes offer to bowl again!
SpearTackle
Roar Rookie
The short answer, because coaches are supposed to be role models.
Johnno
Guest
Warney probably could get more money in the IPL or in county cricket as a spin coach, that's one reason, and for far less time. He haas done some coaching in the IPL already. And then he can free lance as spin coach, and commentate too, and play poker, and offer ideas on the game, and not be bounded by Cricket Australia's code of conduct, he is almost more powerful when he is not employed by cricket Australia, as he can be free to speak his mind. He spoke to the team after the chennai test match, and offered some ideas I assume.