Whose spot will the Lions take in the top eight?

By Ryan Buckland / Expert

When the AFL’s 2015 schedule came out, the annual think pieces seemed to anoint Richmond, Collingwood and West Coast as the winners (Collingwood are always the winners, aren’t they?), and Port Adelaide and Geelong as the losers.

That was my meta-take, adjusting for finishing position, anyway.

As an aside, my contribution to this tradition was a look at the impact of the difference between the numbers of days off a team has relative to its opponents.

The year before last, the same columns said it was Geelong and Carlton had the worst of it, with Collingwood (of course) and Adelaide getting favourable treatment.

Forgive me for getting all 30 for 30, but what if I told you the think pieces were wrong, and will probably be wrong again this year? It was, in fact, Brisbane who had the toughest draw in 2014. In fact, Brisbane’s draw was on average more than a goal a week tougher than the hypothetical average draw in season 2014.

Where did I pluck that number from? Using a series of matrix equations based on the margins of all 198 games played, set to the schedule as it played out, with 18 dependent variables – one for each team – that are designed to meet the condition that the sum of the matrix is zero. This has the effect of “rating” each team based on its performance against other teams, and the schedule.

Mhm. You can read about the basis for my system here if you’d like.

Anyway the method probably doesn’t matter too much to you. All told, this would suggest Brisbane are primed for a better season this year, because this year’s collective fingers-in-the-wind think the Lions have a pretty amenable draw: only three six-day breaks, only one Nullarbor trek, only one double up against a preliminary finalist (North Melbourne).

But it’s not just the draw that’s broken right for them. The front office at Lions HQ had a very deliberate strategy this offseason, and executed well. Brisbane haven’t exactly had the best of success in keeping their draft picks in recent years. It’s no surprise that new CEO Greg Swann’s first order of business was switching the Lions’ player acquisition strategy.

They traded for former Geelong runner Allen Christensen and enigmatic Pie Dayne Beams, and signing New Era aficionado (seriously, check out his Instagram) Mitch Robinson to complement a young midfield group.

They didn’t lose heaps the other way, with a waning champion Jonathan Brown, a pair of angry pants in Brent Moloney and Ash McGrath and youngster Jack Crisp making way. Joel Patful was moved to GWS to help enable the Christensen trade – the two were effectively a direct swap.

The first three would’ve opened up a pretty big chunk of the Lions’ salary cap, affording them the opportunity to chase talent.

Pick five in the draft was leveraged – and ended up being used by the Pies to select forward-mid prospect Jordan De Goey. Now that’s not to say Brisbane would’ve used their pick on this guy, but if you subscribe to Best Player Available Theory, De Goey would not have been an efficient selection for the Lions. If Brisbane have an adequate supply of anything in their playing ranks, it’s forward-mids.

The sheen has faded a little in the first months of 2015, following a few injuries that’ll test this newfound depth. None were more critical than Pearce Hanley’s seemingly significant hip complaint. He gave Brisbane a huge boost last year; tidying up his disposal efficiency, playing on the inside more, and being responsible for almost one in ten Brisbane inside 50 entries.

Christensen and Beams were already walk up starts, but are even more important now following the injuries. They’ll add immediately to Brisbane’s contingent of mid sized players – both in the middle and up forward – while the Lions will also get 2008 Rising Star, left-footed maestro and proud Western Australian (hello, Lathlain) Daniel Rich, back at something resembling full fitness for Round 1, following a Round 2 knee injury.

And so it goes, Brisbane will rise up the ladder this season, and might even be pushing for a berth in the eight if things break right for them. I reckon I’ve read more pieces on Brisbane’s prospects than most other teams combined over the past couple of months.

This seems predicated on two things.

One is the offseason, but the other is the way Brisbane ended up playing under the AFL’s next favourite son knifing candidate, Justin Leppitsch.

Here’s three key statistical splits through three phases; Round 1 through 20 of 2013 pre-Michael Voss career change (green), Round 1 through 9 under Leppitsch (blue), and Round 11 through 23 under Leppitsch (red):

There was a clear shift in game plan under Leppitsch in the second half of 2014. Under Voss, tough, contested football was the goal; Brisbane Lions games were around seven per cent more “contested” than the AFL average in 2013.

When the Lions managed to get the ball on the outside, they were turning it over at an above average rate, while the two-way effort of the team was questionable – they gave up a staggering 37 running bounces against St Kilda in Voss’ penultimate game.

The figures show Brisbane are pursuing the Hawthorn-Essendon model of outside running, uncontested marks and careful ball movement. Brisbane went from being a net minus on field marks (marks outside of forward 50) and a clear net minus on uncontested possession differential to plus plus.

Brisbane’s clanger rate dropped from 15 per cent above average in the first half of 2014 to merely average in the second half.

Not being a member of his coaching staff, I can’t say for certain whether Leppitsch’s shift was driven by the team’s abysmal play in the first nine weeks of the year (one win, by three points, against the eventual wooden spooners, in another country), or was part of a gradual transition – but what is clear is that the team was looking more and more comfortable with the plan as the season progressed.

You would expect this to continue, particularly following the addition of Christensen and Beams.

So should we all jump on the bandwagon? Put it this way, I think their second half of the year showed they’ve got what it takes to be a team on the cusp of the eight. Noncommittal enough for you? You can put my hesitation down to another predictive stat I’ve espoused in the past: Pythagorean expected wins.

Again, if you’re into the detail you can go and read about it here. According to the formula, Brisbane flattered themselves to seven wins: their offensive and defensive output was only good for between four and five wins last year. Actually, between three and four wins, with Brisbane banking an extra win because of their performance in close games last year (four from six games within two goals).

As we’ve shown, though, Brisbane’s 2014 was a tale of two seasons. So what happens if we exclude the first nine rounds of the season and just use the information gleaned from Round 11 through Round 23? Well, it gets a little better. Now their record is only overstated by a bit over one win.

Don’t fret too much though Brisbane fans! It was a bit of a freaky year from a scoring point of view: my Pythagorean model performed the poorest it has since 2009, when St Kilda’s historically crazy defensive performance combined with Geelong’s historically crazy offensive scheme to blow the model up.

Only three teams were within +/-0.5 wins of their actual total compared to their Pythagorean expectation in 2014 – suggesting lots of crazy shit happened – so it may not be the best indicator.

As per earlier in the column, Brisbane had by far the hardest schedule on a week-to-week basis in 2014. Let’s say things break right for them, the three new guys settle in and become productive pretty quickly, Hanley comes back before the mid season break and Brisbane look comfortable on eight or nine wins with seven rounds remaining. Whose spot from this year’s final eight do they take?

For mine, there are two candidates: Richmond and Geelong. These two stick out as the two most likely when you use a bit of deductive reasoning.

Will Hawthorn fall out of the eight? No.

Sydney? When you have a player worth two or more wins on his own, no.

Fremantle? Ross Lyon is in full Greg Popovich mode. They won’t drop out. This year anyway.

Port Adelaide? Another Hinkley Pre Season for Wines, Wingard and co?

North Melbourne? I was half a season too early on my top four call.

Essendon? Well, if they can play their actual players, I think they’ll be pushing for the top four with the list they have. The question will be whether James Hird’s ego will mean he blows up Mark Thompson’s game plan.

That leaves Geelong and Richmond from last year’s eight.

Geelong’s bell has been tolling since the departure of the AFL’s richest non-administrator in 2010, but I think this year might be the year Geelong succumb to the ladder cycle everyone that isn’t Melbourne has been on for the past 20 years.

One figure stands out: Geelong was involved in seven games that were decided by less than 12 points last year, and won all seven of them. That’s just not sustainable – if you played the 2014 season again they would have been much more likely to win three or four of them.

Based solely on points for and against, Geelong were the eighth-best team in footy last year. North’s semi-final victory felt like a bit of a changing of the guard – sort of like when Geelong just pipped Collingwood in 2007.

It was Geelong’s ageing core that dragged the Cats back into the North semi. Christensen and Travis Varcoe are gone, replaced by a number of untried youngsters and Demon discards. Jimmy Bartel, Corey Enright, James Kelly and Steve Johnson are another year older.

Tom Hawkins kicked 41 goals more than the next best scorer. And, well, the draw looks pretty dicey.

But I reckon Richmond are the ones to watch out for when it comes to missing the eight.

Richmond’s run to the finals last year was spectacular. But they just managed to scrape in, despite having the easiest draw of 2014 according to my matrix.

The Tigers’ draw was almost five points per week weaker than the hypothetical even draw, and a full two goals easier than Brisbane. They were one of the three sides that matched their Pythagorean expected wins – but that was mostly by virtue of being about three wins behind after 13 rounds and then making that up with that incredible 9-0 finish.

After flagging their intent to make lots of noise during the player exchange period mid season, the Tigers ended 2014 with a whimper.

A purported trade with Melbourne for Jackson Trengove fell through following a medical exam – the first time I can remember that happening in the AFL – while the only free agent signing was the nuggety Taylor Hunt.

It’s not clear whether the Tigers couldn’t find anything they thought would move the needle during trade week, or just failed to get something done. What is clear is they will enter season 2015 with essentially the same starting 22 as last year.

Fortunately, Richmond’s ‘core four’ of Cotchin, Deledio, Martin and Edwards stand up to most other groups in the league. Their rivals are all above them on the ladder: Fremantle, Sydney, Hawthorn and (probably) North are in the ball park. As the gurus at Richmond acknowledged mid year, midfield depth is the issue for Richmond, and I would think they are the least deep of all of last year’s finalists – and even potentially more shallow that the Lions this year.

Now the Tigers have got a pretty reasonable slate of games this year. Collingwood-esque, even. Richmond play 15 of their 22 games at the MCG, and play their final four weeks in Melbourne. The draw, in and of itself, might be enough to save them from losing their place to a challenger.

But projecting based on the draw is a bit of a mug’s game isn’t it? If a 12th place finisher can end up with a set of games 264 points more challenging than a semi finalist, then what can we really glean by mucking around with numbers?

It’s tough to make predictions, but I look forward to giving it a shot with you this AFL season.

The Crowd Says:

2015-03-16T06:12:21+00:00

Handles

Roar Guru


Jeez you blokes. An interesting, well argued and statistically supported article, followed by pages of reasonable arguments and humour, even from people with very different opinions. Not the usual Roar style at all. Any chance you can all move over and add a bit of class to the Rugby threads?

2015-03-11T13:27:40+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


I think that's pretty much agreed that the tried and true method for teams is big forwards who kick a lot of goals. But what Brisbane have are developing talls, a good number of lively small forwards who've shown they can prove more than a handful for a lot of sides, plus a midfield brimming with talent, plus an excess of ruckmen who it may be a shame to leave out of the side. So you can wish for what you don't have, or try to take what you do have and make it work. The other thing about the ruckmen as spillage tower concept, is they are only the spillage tower if they aren't confident of marking and kicking goals. It's like a default position, because it makes it simpler for the ruckman and has some predictability for the team when they're bringing it into their forward line. Especially useful if their crumbers and midfielders are in the ascendency, which is going to be likely against a number of sides this season. But there's nothing to stop them taking the marks if they're not shown any respect by the opposition, or if they are feeling confident. Martin could be someone who may have matured nicely for this type of role.

2015-03-11T12:59:13+00:00

jax

Guest


if the KPF is a spillage tower he doesn't need to be double and triple teamed which helps the defending team. The more quality forwards that you have the more you will stretch opposition defenses and create scoring opportunities. I'm not sure that they have the cattle up forward to do that consistently and the defense will get beaten more often than not. If this was horse racing I'd call that an unfair starting handicap. Not impossible, but the odds are stacked against them.

2015-03-11T12:43:33+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


I think it is obvious to anyone who watches West Coast play just how valuable NicNat is in scoring initiative...and centre clearances (which amount to much more than winning the tap.) The problem for NicNat is that footy commentators tell footy fans how to think and that is measured by possessions(which are really disposals), marks and goals. Thankfully WCE heirarchy actually see value and pay market value for it.

2015-03-11T12:28:24+00:00

jax

Guest


while we are on stats Nic Nat was #1 in the league in 2012 for initiating scoring chains i.e he did something like win a tap, create a turnover, steal a ball, tackle etc that then kicked off a chain of possessions that resulted in a score for WC.

2015-03-11T12:15:38+00:00

jax

Guest


Comparing WC 05-06 to the Lions 2015 is drawing a very long bow. WC had 2 Brownlow Medallists (Cuz & Judd) + Kerr (2nd and 3rd placings in the Brownlow). In defense they had: Watters Glass Butler Chick Hunter Selwood Lynch kicked 65 in '06 and I can't see a Lion doing that next year. The Lions don't have any of the above but they do have the makings of a strong and deep midfield but not strong or deep enough to compensate for the lack of a KPF or two and their very leaky defense. I expect them to improve this year but for mine WC, Crows and GCS have a better chance of making the 8 than the Lions.

2015-03-11T11:28:31+00:00

jax

Guest


We didn't see much of WC's midfield in 2013-2014 Ryan because most of them were injured and 2015 hasn't started. I've got a sneaky feeling WC will perform significantly better than you think they will. I certainly hope so but they do need some luck on the injury front to be in contention for the 8. They narrowly missed last year and the list is a lot better than it was last year incl injured players that have returned.

2015-03-11T11:18:56+00:00

jax

Guest


Ryan, Nic is WC's most important player and worth the $500k WC pay him. I can't recall the last time a 22yo was named 1st ruck in an AA team but I'm guessing there haven't been many of them i.e it's rare and so is he. You can keep Clarke, Walters & Ballas as well. Nothing against them, especially the little guys but there is only one Nic in the AFL and if he stays injury free we should be in for a treat.

2015-03-09T01:24:09+00:00

Bato

Guest


Just wait until a certain Daniel McStay fires up and surprises the competition. He's a Jeremy Cameron in the making. He's easily our most dangerous forward right now and when Staker regains full fitness and match sharpness, then he'll be a handy addition to our side as well. Close looks a future player, it's important for him to get the basics right first. Taking marks, kicking goals, applying basic pressure as a forward and so on. Cross out McGuane and Paine. Can't see them having any impact this season. With that being said, the Lions need to go all out at the end of the year for a KPF. No questions about it. It can't hurt drafting more and more of these big guys. That should be our first and foremost aim at season's end. Wouldn't worry about our defensive stocks just yet, as we've got enough to survive for now. Maybe lacking a small rebounding defender if we're really getting picky. Top 8 is a dream at the moment. I've said previously on here that it's the inconsistencies that will haunt us. You don't go from a bottom side to a top side in a matter of months. There are players that are still adapting to the game style Leppa has implemented. Execution will be key. It might just take half the season to really start kicking.

2015-03-06T14:45:06+00:00

Elmer

Guest


I think the eagles pay 500k inside the salary cap with 300k (the AFL Pay a small chunk of the 300k) outside the cap because of his ambassadorial role. As for the AFL getting value out of him in that role I think you underestimate that, he does a lot of work in the community and would be responsible for thousands of new supporters following AFL. I Have met a lot of a adults and especially kids from non traditional AFL cultures who have started following AFL because of Nic. He is probably the most recognisable player in the game and for a lot of people who don't follow so closely Nic is the only player they know and show any interest in.

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2015-03-06T08:12:38+00:00

Ryan Buckland

Expert


Thanks Elmer. Hadn't considered the ambassadorial money. Are you sure its that much though? Would've thought it would be less than $100k - the AFL doesn't get that much value out of having him as a multicultural ambassador.

2015-03-05T22:45:01+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Sheesh!

2015-03-05T22:17:15+00:00

Macca

Guest


Dalgety - " If it’s in their forward line and the ruckman has directed it to their advantage and you’re taking a punt on attack, then the odds are much stronger in their favour for scoring." Firstly you have the risk of the defender actually marking the ball, the after that it would only be roughly a 50/50 that the ruckman can actually direct it to your teams advantage in a pack marking contest, then you have the risk that the crumber won't be in the right position or that the defending crumber reads it off the pack better, then if the attacking crumber does actually get the ball he has to get clear of his defender and then if the crumber gets clear he actually has to hit the target. Thats a lost more effort and a lot more risk than having someone who can just clunk the mark at the first point.

2015-03-05T14:07:46+00:00

Elmer

Guest


Nic Nat is on 500K a year from the club, the other 300k is paid by the AFL so its not like the club has all of its salary cap tied up in Nic.

2015-03-05T00:08:03+00:00

Steve J

Roar Guru


Um, I'll take him no problems. 25yo key defender. Straight into the team for McPharlin and he'll be there while Johno and Dawson phase out over the next 3 years as well. Kids are still untried (Alex Pearce, Tanner Smith) as key defenders and Rance is a proven competitor

2015-03-04T08:14:18+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


Sometimes in your desperate need to argue you say some pretty silly things. If it's in their forward line and the ruckman has directed it to their advantage and you're taking a punt on attack, then the odds are much stronger in their favour for scoring. As for your comment about the forward marking it, it depends which one, are we talking someone like Casboult here or what (but it's irrelevant to this anyways, given we're specifically discussing small forward-centric options in this particular side thread).

2015-03-04T05:33:19+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


...and Luke Breust failed?

2015-03-04T05:27:14+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Tell me Ryan, your visage in these comments and that in the article...is there something we should know? Hair transplant? Plastic surgery? Big off season?

2015-03-04T05:07:25+00:00

slane

Guest


Come on Dougie. Lewis Jetta was their leading goal kicker! Hardly a KPF! They had Kennedy kick 29, Jack 27, McGlynn 30, O'Keefe 20. That was a midfield running rampant. It's why I was so surprised when they nabbed Tippet and Buddy.

2015-03-04T05:04:36+00:00

Macca

Guest


I'd prefer the odds that could prevent a score and possibly score yourself from that situation than from after a key forward has clunked a mark.

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