What to do with the Geelong six and other talking points from Round 22

By Josh / Expert

Collingwood’s win over Geelong effectively ended the Cats season on Friday night, making it mathematically impossible for them to make the finals and thereby locking in the current top eight.

It’s a bit of a shame really as I was looking forward to a potential do-or-die clash for finals between Geelong and Adelaide this weekend, but it was not to be.

All’s well that ends well though – Geelong’s form hasn’t really justified a finals berth this year and I think that we can all agree the eight teams who have made it have been the best teams of 2015.

Geelong missing really is the end of an era though, it will be the first time since 2006 that the Cats haven’t qualified for finals.

In that period of 2007-2014, they played in 21 finals for 13 wins including three premierships – nothing short of remarkable. Geelong’s captain Joel Selwood debuted in 2007 and all he has ever known is making finals.

You could tell things were coming to an end over the past few years of course as while the Cats have played in six finals over the last three years they’ve won only one of them, their semi-final against Port Adelaide in 2013.

It’s been a glorious era but it’s at an end now, and the big question hovering over the Geelong football club is what to do with the six out of contract premiership players at the club – Jimmy Bartel, Steve Johnson, Andrew Mackie, Corey Enright, James Kelly and Mathew Stokes.

The buzz is that Geelong will move at least some of these players on at the end of the year with the aim of pumping more games into their youngsters to get ready for the next premiership push.

While I can see the logic there I think it might be a mistake. Yes, premierships are what it’s all about, but there is more meaning to a footy club than just trying to win the trophy, and I think Geelong is forgetting that if it tries to shuffle those blokes off.

Take Paul Chapman for instance, who the Cats effectively forced out at the end of 2013 by offering him only a severely limited contract.

He played his last game of AFL footy this week and his career was celebrated, but while it’s been nice to see Essendon get around him, I think it’s a real shame that he didn’t get to finish his illustrious career at Geelong.

He showed in the 2014 season that he still had the capacity to play good footy and I think that, list age profiles be damned, if a player can still do that they deserve their spot on an AFL list.

If Geelong’s list strategy involves giving multi-year contracts to fringe players like George Horlin-Smith and Billie Smedts, but doesn’t have room for Steve Johnson – who has averaged 20 disposals a game and kicked nearly 30 goals this year – that just doesn’t make sense to me.

So when it comes to the Geelong Six, my call is – if they’re still playing solid footy, they deserve to make up their own mind on whether or not they play on in 2016. Player-by-player, I reckon…

Steve Johnson – obviously wants to go on in 2016 and deserves to. His form has been good enough this year to warrant another season on the list.
Jimmy Bartel – has been smacked around by injuries this year and his next concussion could be his last. But if he wants to try another year, his form has been good enough to justify it.
Corey Enright – has quietly had yet another exceptional year of footy and while he may decide to call it a day he has every right to still be a part of the team.
Andrew Mackie – has provided another stable, consistent year and there’s no reason to push him out if he wants to stay on.
James Kelly – has copped some bad injuries this year – ruptured testicle – and I think he knows that it’s his time to go, and will make the call on his own.
Mathew Stokes – no longer plays good enough footy to be a regular in the team and so it’s fair enough for the Cats not to offer him a new contract.

While a bit of history ended for the Cats this week, the Fremantle Dockers claimed their own historic moment, and they did it in true Ross Lyon style.

Someday in the future when a young Dockers supporter asks their elder ‘How did we win our first minor premiership?’ they’ll smile and say ‘we grubbed out a boring win over Melbourne.’

Honestly, if there’s anything more emblematic of a Ross Lyon coached team than to kick the first ten goals of the game then go on to only win by about fifty points, I don’t know what it is.

That victory puts the Dockers a win-and-a-half clear of the West Coast Eagles on top of the ladder and makes it an absolute certainty that they will finish on top in 2015, most likely setting up a home final with the Sydney Swans in the first week of finals.

Lyon announced after the game that, much like they did in 2013, the Dockers would basically be playing a B-team against Port Adelaide this week in order to give the majority of their players a week’s rest.

In 2013 that saw lowly St Kilda snag a 71-point win over a Fremantle side featuring the likes of Jesse Crichton, Josh Mellington, Alex Forster, Peter Faulks and Craig Moller.

Against a team like Port Adelaide, who’ve been in good form these last few weeks and would love to finish on a high note, it should mean an absolute smashing that could see the final margin reach the triple digits.

While it doesn’t make for great watching, it’s a wise tactical move. A well-rested Fremantle at home should do away with the Swans comfortably in the first week of finals and will then have a week’s rest before probably facing either West Coast or Hawthorn at home in a prelim.

The odds I think are heavily in their favour for another grand final appearance, and I’ve got a feeling they’ll make a better go of it this time than they did in 2013.

At this stage, they’re my tip to win the flag.

Spare thoughts
It was great to see young Irishman Conor McKenna debut for Essendon on Saturday night and kick the first goal of the game too. He had a number of clubs interested in his signature this time last year and I think he’s going to be a really valuable player for the Bombers.

And speaking of inclusions wasn’t it amazing to see Daniel Menzel back at AFL level again? He could’ve done nothing all night and we’d have been happy for him but for him to kick four goals on return was just incredible. One for every knee reco he’s had to struggle through. Here’s hoping he stays fit for good.

Port have good reason to be disappointed with their season after the last few weeks, they’ve shown decent form and really should be playing finals this year from what we’ve seen of them at their best. Here’s hoping the pain burns deep and inspires them to be more consistent in 2016.

Greater Western Sydney and Collingwood can tell a simillar story, while they definitely aren’t the disappointments Port have been, both teams could be playing finals this year if things had gone a little differently. They’ll be big threats in 2016.

The Bulldogs have been a great side this year and it’s the sort of thing that really hits you when you see them beat your own team, as I did on the weekend. Players like Marcus Bontempelli and Jake Stringer are going to be amongst the stars of this next generation, and are very difficult to match up on.

Will the Dogs manage to replicate that kind of form in finals, and at the MCG rather than Etihad? At this point they’ve leapt over just about every challenge put in front of them so you’d have to say yes, yes they will.

Adelaide look bloody dangerous and could have a home final if they win again this week and either one of Richmond or the Bulldogs gets knocked off. Be afraid, be very afraid.

The Crowd Says:

2015-09-01T08:58:24+00:00

WhereIsGene

Guest


Keiren Jack has been pretty ordinary this year, he has consistently failed to step up in big games and has a tendency to go missing when the Swans' older brigade need to show some leadership. Its hard to think of a more underwhelming captain in the AFL right now than Jack & McVeigh. Releasing him from the captaincy would probably be the best thing to allow him to concentrate on his football. Really he's been awful at the job anyway.

2015-09-01T08:47:37+00:00

pjm

Roar Rookie


You rarely see someone with 1 reco that keeps playing. The joint is never the same again and he'll need another soon.

2015-09-01T08:01:40+00:00

XI

Roar Guru


I seem to remember the CEO of said expansion club laughing in the face of a journalist who asked him if the offer was real.

2015-09-01T07:33:43+00:00

Ryan Buckland

Expert


It was never 100% confirmed as true, but there were strong rumours that an expansion side offered Geelong the AFL equivalent of the moon for Steve Johnson during last season's trade period. And they turned it down.

AUTHOR

2015-09-01T07:13:36+00:00

Josh

Expert


Was generally talking about the 'era' of Geelong in finals, which would begin in 2007 since they weren't in 2006. But, as you point out, the 'build-up' to an era like that is not often as recognised as it should be.

AUTHOR

2015-09-01T07:09:53+00:00

Josh

Expert


He was not contracted beyond this year - signed a two year contract in 2013 that ran out this year - http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-08-21/stoked-to-sign-on Stokes and Kelly. Did I nail my call or what? Now here's hoping Stevie J stays on.

2015-09-01T07:07:50+00:00

dan ced

Guest


I'd like to see Stevie J play another year, wherever that may be.. I think Geelong will trade him. Enright has played great this year from the limited amount I've seen, I think he will go on one more WITH Geelong. Kelly and Stokes have retired, supposedly, since this was posted. The rest I don't care :P

2015-09-01T06:37:01+00:00

Tony

Guest


No value in any of those 6 Cats. Geelong are not Premiership material next year or the year after for that matter, so move them all on now and start the rebuild. Chapman was of no value to the Bombers so that was a good call to get rid of him. The longer you wait to get rid of ageing stars the longer the pain in rebuilding and I can see lots of pain ahead for Cat supporters.

2015-09-01T06:29:08+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


Well, he and Kelly have just announced they're retiring. So that's 2 down that we expected to call time.

2015-09-01T05:00:33+00:00

Brian

Guest


Agree It really should be 2004-2014 which is somewhere in the top 5 of era's since it became the AFL. The other 4 being NM 1993-2000 WCE 1990-1999 Brisbane 1999-2004 Hawthorn 2007-

2015-09-01T03:01:30+00:00

slane

Guest


Personally think that tackles are a bit overrated. It just means the player delivering the tackle was second to the ball. Freo, Hawthorn, Richmond and the Eagles have the 4 of the 5 best defences in the league and none of them are in the top 10 for tackles.

2015-09-01T02:55:56+00:00

Lord Funkington

Guest


Stokes is still contracted for next year, if they want to move him it wil have to be a trade.

2015-09-01T02:50:11+00:00

AK

Guest


Why does the era begin from 2007? The current batch of potential retirees for GFC - along with the rest of the gone champions - began the era with the 2002 VFL grand final. First piece of silverware in decades for the club, showcasing the talent that would go on to win three AFL premierships. That was the beginning of an era for Geelong. GFC played finals in 2004 and 2005 finishing 4th and 5th respectively. How quick we forget the 2005 finals series where Sydney's Nick Davis stole the show with 4 goals in the final quarter to steal the game from the Cats, sparking the Swans run to a premiership. One critical mistake avoided by Stevie J and it could have been the Cats in the GF that year. High expectations were had for 2006 when they bombed out sparking the review... the rest being history. But really, 2006 was an aberration if anything. But an important one that resulted in the brutal review that forged them in to the force they became. Anyway, i'd argue the Cat's era didn't begin in 2007. I'd argue 2002. Maybe 2004. One thing I will agree on is that the era is definitely over... they have some rebuilding to do.

AUTHOR

2015-09-01T02:34:39+00:00

Josh

Expert


It really is simply incredible. You'd think a second knee reco, or a third, or a fourth, would break his spirit. Nope.

AUTHOR

2015-09-01T02:33:47+00:00

Josh

Expert


I can maybe see a club like Melbourne or Carlton giving Stokes a year or two if they think he'll be a good influence and provide some depth, but still wouldn't rate it as hugely likely. Stevie J is playing good enough footy to demand another year I think, if that's not at Geelong I'm sure another club will give him that offer. Whether he takes it, we'll see.

AUTHOR

2015-09-01T02:01:49+00:00

Josh

Expert


I'd definitely rate Hannebery over Jack as the Swans' best, personally.

2015-09-01T01:35:32+00:00

XI

Roar Guru


Heeney couldn't get a vote either. I think it just comes down to the fact that there are only so many votes to give.

2015-09-01T00:36:13+00:00

Wilson

Roar Guru


that is true and have seen story's that Tigers are interested in Johnson so could see him in the Yellow and Black

2015-09-01T00:02:47+00:00

Brian

Guest


I can't see Stokes contributing much anywhere. Johnson is interesting, A Sydney or Richmond could be interested in him for a premiership tilit in 2016, especially if they picked him up for close to nothing.

2015-08-31T23:16:24+00:00

Balthazar

Guest


Absolutely fantastic to see Menzel out there. What a triumph of tenacity and self-belief. Great story

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