The talking points: Super Rugby Round 17

By Brett McKay / Expert

The Super Rugby season is right down to the wire, and even if there are debates around the finals format, the playoffs loom with much excitement.

But before the playoffs can start, there’s one last regular season round to play out, and there’s plenty of intrigue and playoffs drama left just yet.

Here’s the talking points for Round 17.

What the Waratahs have to do
Win. And win well. Winning with a bonus point will give the Waratahs a little bit of extra insurance, as well as putting more pressure on the Brumbies to rack up a score on Saturday night.

So how do they do that? Well, they have to engage the Blues’ defence. Too often last week, the Brumbies were guilty of playing east-west, rather than north-south, and it allowed the Blues to just slide with the point of attack.

If the ‘Tahs can play flatter at the gain line, and more directly up through the middle, it will force the Blues’ defence to contract, which in turn will open up the space out wide that the Brumbies weren’t able to unlock last week.

The Waratahs should also be looking to force the Blues into a breakdown contest, which neither team will particularly want to do, but it’s the best way of committing more defenders to the ruck and ensuring they can’t just stand off and present a 14-man wall.

And start fast; the Blues are capable of chasing games, but if the ‘Tahs can get out to an early lead – and a handy, two- or three-try lead – then that might just bring unforced errors out of the Blues.

The Waratahs are well capable of this; that’s one plus. But they needed to do the same thing last week against the Hurricanes, and that didn’t go so well.

What the Brumbies have to do
Watch the Waratahs game first and foremost, and then have a very clear plan once the equation becomes known. They may or may not need a bonus point win, but at least they will know that 24 hours early.

Like the Waratahs, the Brumbies need to start well. They cannot afford another slow 50-minute start like they put up last week, because the Force are capable of defending a lead and playing a much better field position game than the Blues did last week.

And they certainly can’t play sideline-to-sideline as they did in Auckland last week, because that would be just playing into the Force’s hands. Christian Lealiifano admitted in Canberra yesterday that they probably did have to do more in attack, and use their set piece and lineout strengths as a base, not their one and only weapon.

“It probably simplifies things, to know we’ve got a really strong platform there of what our strengths are, and that allows us to use our skills as individuals and push the boundaries in attack,” Lealiifano said.

So at least they’re admitting the problem, which is the first step. It’s up to the Brumbies as players and coaches now to prove after last week’s disappointment that they do have the game to compete in the finals series.

Johan Ackermann’s Argentinean tour pro/con list
He’s got some massive balls, the Lions coach, I’ll say that much. If his side was playing the Jaguares at Ellis Park, or any other South African team, for that matter, we probably wouldn’t have batted an eyelid at his decision to rest 15 regular starters. So why did he?

For one thing, I can’t imagine it would’ve been a simple decision. But I can imagine him constructing a list including these points…

PRO: The ‘1st XV’ will be fresh for the home quarter final the following week.
CON: It does open up the window to lose hold of top spot.

PRO: It gives the fringe squad guys a reward for all their hard work.
CON: It runs the risk of upsetting momentum heading to the finals.

PRO: The Jaguares have been very up and down – even in the last two rounds – and this group of guys have plenty of talent.
CON: Talent alone doesn’t win Super Rugby matches. And Currie Cup talent alone certainly doesn’t win Super Rugby matches.

PRO: The resting players won’t have to travel to South America.
CON: The coaches still have to travel to South America. And who creates the game plans?

PRO: The team we play in the quarter final has to come to us.
CON: It could be an in-form New Zealand team, rather than the Sharks – who we’ve beaten twice this season.

Of course, it’s entirely possible that the Lions could lose in Buenos Aires and still hold spot, if the Highlanders and the Hurricanes happen to topple the Chiefs and Crusaders, respectively. In which case Ackermann will look like an absolute genius.

You can get odds of more than $5.30, if you want to have that same punt, and closer to $18 if you fancy the Lion Cubs’ chances.

But you’d need Ackermann-sized kahunas. So good luck with that.

Is there one last New Zealand surprise in store?
The Chiefs and the Crusaders have been swapping the New Zealand conference lead back and forward for the second half of the season, and that’s even happened again since the resumption after the June Tests.

But with the four New Zealand teams within three points of each other, any of them could still take out the conference.

The Highlanders hold a 20-point for-and-against advantage over the Hurricanes, and with both teams on the same number of wins, for-and-against would be the next tie-breaker if they respectively beat the Chiefs and Crusaders.

Could it happen? Well, the Highlanders are certainly capable of beating the Chiefs; they’ve won the last five clashes between the two sides, including in Round 11 this season, and in both Round 16 and the Elimination Final last season. They’d be confident, and with good reason.

But the ‘Canes haven’t faced the Crusaders this year (honestly, what kind of joke format is this?!?), and the two fixtures last season were won by the home team. The Hurricanes haven’t won in Christchurch in more than two years, though, and if the Crusaders prevail, it won’t matter what the Highlanders manage against the Chiefs.

Yet I can’t help but think there’s more twists in the New Zealand conference to come in 2016. And wouldn’t that be something?

…and therefore, who’s the New Zealand favourite?
If the final series started this weekend – would the Chiefs genuinely be the favourites to win the comp of the four New Zealand team?

If the Highlanders finished top spot, would they automatically assume the mantle?

Do the Hurricanes have to top the New Zealand conference to be any chance of avenging last year’s Final result?

Are the Crusaders the best equipped team to win in South Africa if it comes to it?

And do these questions have different answers next week, if there is one last New Zealand conference twist?

I’m sorry to finish with a load of questions, but among all the talk of how good the four Kiwi teams are going, I don’t think I’ve seen anyone so bold to install a favourite.

And I’m blown if I can, so it’s over to you guys!

Enjoy the last round of Super Rugby.

The Crowd Says:

2016-07-16T07:38:10+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


Thanks buddy... had a down turn after your 'tip-off' as the missus has treated me to a dozen Coffin Bay oysters for YOUR game against da Chefs! Apologises to da wife :))

2016-07-16T03:55:17+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Yeh true Brett, as I do recall it happening on the odd occasion over the years, but, as you say, not a regular, issue with so many players. Ah, the professional era, aye, mate.

2016-07-16T03:49:08+00:00

Muzzo

Roar Rookie


Hey Chook, if you do dine that well, try the famous Kiwi Bluff Oysters sometime. From memory, I do think they can be purchased from the Sydney Fish Markets, in a round tin. Straight off the boat, in Bluff, just a little south of Invercargill, we used to purchase them by the old coal sack. With a bottle of stout, they used to go down, very well. lol. Brings back great memories, as this was a regular occurrence, before taking off to Rugby Park, for a Otago v Southland encounter. Cheers Buddy.

2016-07-16T03:43:04+00:00

Faith

Guest


Completely agree Fox Saker. Crusaders against the Lions would not be something the latter would be looking forward to. From an NZ perspective a Highlanders and Hurricanes win would mean Highlanders vs Sharks (at home), Hurricanes vs Brumbies, Chiefs vs Stormers, Crusaders vs Lions . Also a good combi from NZ perspective would be Crusaders vs Lions, Highlanders vs Brumbies, Chiefs vs Sharks and Hurricanes vs Stormers but almost impossible for 2nd option unless Chiefs and Highlanders draw and Hurricanes beat Crusaders in a low scoring affair and Lions lost. More realistic will be Crusaders (top NZ, Second overall) vs Hurricanes (4th NZ, 7th overall), Highlanders/Chiefs (2nd/3rd NZ conference, 5/6th overall) vs Brumbies, Highlanders/Chiefs vs Stormers ...

2016-07-15T19:15:16+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Carlos, can you call them talegas?

2016-07-15T17:22:52+00:00

Carlos the Argie

Roar Guru


"Cajones" means drawers. The correct Spanish term to use is "cojones". Which are the hanging family jewels your mom gave you when you were a wee tiny baby. You know the song: "When I was a little tiny boy, My momma gave me a few little toys, silver bells hanging on a string, she told me it was my ding-a-ling-a-ling!"

2016-07-15T17:20:15+00:00

Carlos the Argie

Roar Guru


Semillion or Sauvignon blanc from further south? I guess you must be going to AA with all your drowning sorrows...

2016-07-15T17:17:35+00:00

Carlos the Argie

Roar Guru


Thanks writer formerly known as. Riding is fun. It is hot in SoCA. Some condescending kid's "coach" just mocked the fact that I ride. I can still play (in hiding from my family), referee in the open and ride 100 miles of mountainous terrain. Those who mock us old steeds should be careful. The Blues did end up eating flowers for dinner last night. I wuz right. And I don't run in cycling shoes. They are way too expensive! Even cleats are lots of dough. Can you imagine Chris Froome as a lock? Looks like Skelton.

2016-07-15T10:13:06+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


Oops and apologises... as at the time of writing I was not up to speed with da Nice thing. Words fail me... this shyte just sucks! I hope I didn't offend anybody?

2016-07-15T06:44:33+00:00

Fox

Roar Guru


Yeah there is definitely that competitive element is at work no doubt which means to bring the best out of Fardy, and with Pocock not there next year, Larkham and Cheika may need to get someone to fill Pocock's position who inspires Fardy and not just a gap filler. For this reason and with the greatest respect to Fardy, who is fine player, and despite his experience, I don't think he "leads" like other players like Pocock and Hooper do, if you know what I mean - unless he has someone along side him in combination who brings it out in him.

2016-07-15T06:35:10+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


Yeah... but I forgot to add advice about removing one's tweed jacket (with the cute lil' leather patches on the elbow thingys) and then hanging it on ya shooting stick. Shucking oysters can be nasty business. Elitist? Moi?? Sacre' bleu Brett!! Mind you... I wish I wish I still had a 'stereotype' so I could play me records on it. :))

AUTHOR

2016-07-15T05:05:08+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Hunter Valley Semillon and Sydney Rock Oysters?!?! :shock: Way to hold up the rugby elitist stereotypes, Chookman!!

2016-07-15T04:36:44+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


Tasty question Brett... and as a refined (?) Tahs' supporter may I suggest a nice chilled bottle of Hunter Valley Semillon to wash down a dozen, or so, plump Sydney Rock Oysters. And if oysters aren't your go (god forbid) then a back-up would be a kilo of some freshly caught prawns, fresh just out of the bakers oven crusty bread, butter and some quality mayo. We Tahs may support a losing team... but geez we'll dine well, and then drown our sorrows with aplomb :)

2016-07-15T04:32:41+00:00

ClarkeG

Guest


both have passed fitness tests and will be on the bench tonight.

AUTHOR

2016-07-15T04:31:19+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


In my defence Conway, I think the word I submitted was a bastardised version combining both the word published here and your appreciated correction, so the subs went with what looked more right!

2016-07-15T04:10:16+00:00

Conway Restom

Guest


I agree with everything you say about the boldness of Ackerman's team selection. But not that "you’d need Ackermann-sized kahunas' to go for the $18 win if his gamble comes off. What you'd need are Ackermann-sized 'cajones', not giant Hawaian waves or elders (kahunas). But as always, thanks for another great article.

AUTHOR

2016-07-15T04:05:49+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


Digger's sandwich debate above has me thinking it's been a while since the last recipe exchange - so what's the go-to snacks and beverage combinations this weekend? I think as a tribute to tonight's Queensland-Victoria battle, it's only right that the Bundy Rum and corn chips are paired....

AUTHOR

2016-07-15T03:58:41+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


No, I'm with you on that one Fox. There's no doubt Fardy and Pocock have a really good combination, and maybe it's that competitive spirit among team-mates, but when they're both 'on', they become a real breakdown force..

2016-07-15T03:49:59+00:00

Geoff Parkes

Expert


That's one of my combos Digger. Chicken, sliced boiled egg, shredded lettuce, a tiny bit of mayo for texture, s & p. A winner. Note, sliced hard boiled egg, not mashed egg. That goes better with ham.

2016-07-15T03:39:16+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


Good luck today Tragic... it's only 6hrs to go!!! I mentioned to Brett about 'Rugby hipster' up above, and it occurred to me that you are presently non hip... but very much just a ster stir?? See what I did there :)

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