The Big Rugby Championship Question: Momentum and morale

By Brett McKay / Expert

Last weekend showed that the Wallabies can indeed win games of rugby and the Pumas can indeed challenge the All Blacks, albeit for a period not quite equalling eighty minutes.

This weekend is the one where the two teams can mark themselves off against each other.

For the Wallabies, a win would confirm that last weekend wasn’t a dream, and things really aren’t too bad as long you’re not playing the best team in the world every weekend. For Argentina, a win would confirm common thoughts that they’re now capable of winning away from home.

Therefore, it seems right this week to focus on the two teams fighting it out for second in The Rugby Championship.

The Big Question: What is our predicted effect of last weekend’s matches likely to have on the momentum and morale of Australia and Argentina? (from Digger – who borrowed Roarer Chinmay Hejmadi’s question from the weekend)

Nobes: “New rule: Games may only last 50 minutes until Los Pumas get fit enough so they can play at 200km/h for 80 minutes and thus have a chance to win a game over the men in black.

“The past game will definitely have an impact on the team morale: they played their heart out and lost by 30 points, so it is possible that they might feel not only slightly discouraged but also very tired.

“There is extra burden on the team caused by injuries. It is very difficult to replace anybody because of the travel distance. Such are the cases of Juan Martin Hernandez and lock Guido Petti. Pumas have already lost Tomas Lavanini in Salta in that position.

“Now, they must choose between Under-20s Marcos Kremer or switch flanker Ortega Desio to lock, but neither of these possibilities seem to be a rewarding solution when you have a massive job against the Wallabies in Perth.

“Had the men in gold lost it would have been a different story, but instead they won and they may feel that they are on the way to a healthy recovery.

“The Wallabies will make the necessary adjustments to win the game, after watching what Los Pumas have done against the All Blacks. Plus, the element of surprise that they showed against the men in black is no longer there.”

Harry: “What a difference a week (and a win) makes for Michael and Michael.

“The Wallabies coach did not attack referees, World Rugby, or any other outside party. He was sober and CEO-like, talking about ‘issues to iron out’ before playing the attack-minded Pumas. He was sounding like Shag Hansen after a win, using words like ‘polish’ and ‘tidy up’ and ‘improved, but not top level’.

“He will have enjoyed some of the more intricate ‘swinging gate’ backline moves the Wallabies ran, but notes his side ‘didn’t shift the ball into space and take it’ enough, and ‘there was a little bit of indecision’. Where was this coach during the first five Tests of 2016?

“Michael the flanker talked about how much more fun it is to be sore on Monday without ‘feeling sorry for yourself’. I think the Wallabies will overreact to the win a bit, maybe even introducing more debutantes, and then find the Pumas a real handful at the coalface, with the offload game putting real pressure on David Pocock and Will Genia to coordinate.

“But still, I think the Wallabies are a confidence team with a confidence coach, and this, along with the re-blossoming of the Genia-Quade Cooper axis, should see the number three team see off the exhausted Pumas.

“Daniel Hourcade looked absolutely gutted at the end of the 22-57 wallop in Hamilton. His players had just played near their absolute red-line best for 50:00, only to see a scoreboard with a 50 on the other side.

“Intensity, a direct approach, hard defence, and pinpoint kicking; the recipe to trouble the All Blacks. But not enough horses. If you play a galloping rugby against the big black stampede, you better have plenty of stallions watered with buckets of oats. I think the first half in Hamilton was the apex of Puma fortunes.”

Digger: Absolutely I think the past weekend’s results will have an effect.

“For Argentina, my question mark has always been around consistency of performance. Previous seasons have suggested much promise only to see it fall away – often against the Wallabies, coincidently – in previous seasons of the Rugby Championship and in last year’s semi in the World Cup; a match which suggested plenty from the Pumas but were unable to deliver.

“Have they perhaps turned the corner? Maybe, certainly if they produce the same quality of match play against New Zealand for a longer period then absolutely but I wonder how much time and energy went into the All Black match only to end up with a disappointing result. It’s a mental battle for the Pumas and I am unconvinced they can overcome this obstacle.

“Debate still surrounds exactly the quality of the Wallaby performance over South Africa for a variety reasons however there is no doubt that they improved across several areas and will look to continue with incremental gains against Argentina. The win was a much needed boost to the confidence and will help the squad enjoy their Rugby again.

“With this match being the last in Australia for this season I imagine the motivation will be high and they have also had the benefit of seeing what Argentina can produce and will, presumably, prepare accordingly.

“They certainly cannot afford to relax too much as Argentina do have the ability to get on the outside with quick hands and by keeping the ball alive. It will be interesting to see if the Wallaby defence has improved sufficiently to counter this threat, as South Africa were unable to provide an accurate gauge.”

Brett: I think both performances last week will give the respective sides plenty of confidence, and should even provide a decent amount of momentum.

I expect that Argentina will have the confidence to try and grind the Wallabies down with a forwards battle, and if they can turn it into a scrummaging battle, even better. The more they can draw the Wallabies in, the better their chances of extending the contest further. And if it becomes a grind, then it can become a points-fest; the Pumas will know the Wallabies are a side who will give away stupid penalties.

The Wallabies will know that they can’t start the game with their hands in their pockets behind an attacking ruck like they did last week, otherwise they’ll be inviting the Pumas to out-muscle them at the breakdown all night. And they should use the confidence and momentum they will have gained from their attack, because even for the mistake here and there, they did create a lot of opportunities to score tries.

Morale-wise, I’d think both teams will come into this game felling pretty damn good about themselves which in turn should drive them to really want to play for each other on Saturday night. It all points to a really entertaining game, actually.

Tips

Week 3: Brett, Digger, and Nobes 2; Harry, and The Crowd 1

Nobes: “In my opinion the Wallabies have a 60 per cent chance of winning – and because my heart is not for sale – I give 40 per cent chance for the Pumas. The last weekend victory over the Boks increases the chances of the men in gold.

“The Boks will play not to lose by a big margin – especially after seeing what the Pumas went through. They will play with that in mind and they will not take many risks.”

Brett: I have a real concern for the ‘Boks in Christchurch. A huge concern. They’ll know they don’t have the game to challenge New Zealand, but I think playing not to lose would only see them thumped even further. So they might as well go out there and play with freedom. And pray a lot.

The Wallabies should be too strong for Argentina, otherwise my fears will be for The Roar’s servers. There was a lot to like about last week’s win in Brisbane but it was far from perfect, whereas the Pumas had to play the game of their lives just to be competitive for 50 minutes. The contest will last longer in Perth, but the Wallabies – for God’s sake – should be too good.

Diggercane: “It is said that South Africa always raise to the challenge of playing the All Blacks and no doubt New Zealand will be cautious against their old foe. However, there has been little to suggest that this current Springbok side will indeed trouble this All Black side much at all.

“It would be a remarkable turnaround if South Africa can be competitive for long periods of the match, let alone 80 minutes. I cannot see anything but a comfortable All Black victory.

“I feel the Wallabies will get home over the Pumas this weekend, most of my reasoning already laid out with the Big Question. When you add in a little less recent travel and a relatively healthier squad, I am picking the Wallabies to finish their domestic season on a high note.”

Harry: “Both home teams comfortably this week.

“Elton Jantjies isn’t going to beat the All Blacks in New Zealand, ever. The Rugby Championship is turning into a home-team competition, and for the All Blacks, everywhere is home.”

The Summary

The Crowd has spoken…
Another record response for the Week 4 TRC games, with well over 560 responses received; thanks once again to everyone who had their say. Final result were:

93.2% New Zealand
51.2% Australia

The Wallabies tip is the closest for The Rugby Championship panel yet. From more than 560 responses, the Wallabies and Pumas were split by just 14 votes!

Should be a ripper, enjoy your weekend of rugby.

The Crowd Says:

2016-09-16T16:23:16+00:00

canadiankiwi

Guest


But De Allende cannot pass to his right or left.

2016-09-16T13:06:41+00:00

Die hard

Roar Rookie


Unlike Moaman and RT above I always are in trepidation about any Boks Blacks clash Suzi. It is indeed a very good team, albeit a bit worn. But the excitement and adrenaline will be high and anything might happen. All.the best for Saturday. I am still betting on black.

2016-09-16T09:33:00+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


The Mystery of JJ. Broke through. Was always more of a wing. Meyer used him in that "still not settled" 13 spot. Missed a few tackle reads. Dropped. As if he never existed. Kicked around in Currie Cup. Lost confidence. Then Ospreys paid him a lot of money to be a star. Familiar tale... The End of JPP Coetzee told W le Roux and JPP to work on fitness and focus on their foreign club commitments. Might be the end for JPP. Probably would've liked him marking the Bus this week.

2016-09-16T08:48:40+00:00

Nobrain

Roar Guru


Your are correct.

2016-09-16T07:18:09+00:00

Dcnz

Guest


Harry what happened to JJ Englebrecht and why isn't JP playing, please ?

2016-09-16T05:18:20+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


They'll be attacked at the line out too. With only one jumper over 193cm to the Wallabies 3 it will give them good options to attack the Pumas line out. The Wallabies will mark up on Alemanno with either Simmons or Mumm I'd say and leave one at the front with the other floating at the back to compete.

AUTHOR

2016-09-16T05:03:22+00:00

Brett McKay

Expert


The Crowd has spoken… Another record response for the Week 4 TRC games, with well over 560 responses received; thanks once again to everyone who had their say. Final result were: 93.2% New Zealand 51.2% Australia The Wallabies tip is the closest for The Rugby Championship panel yet. From more than 560 responses, the Wallabies and Pumas were split by just 14 votes! Should be a ripper, enjoy your weekend of rugby. BUT FIRST - have your say for The Crowd's NRC Round 4 tips, particularly since The Crowd is training both Paddy and me! Head to: http://www.theroar.com.au/2016/09/16/nrc-round-4-make-break-much-competition/

2016-09-16T01:17:30+00:00

Nobrain

Roar Guru


Placing Otega Desio as lock means that The Pumas will actually have 3 1/2 loose fowards to fight the breakdown, but they loose some power in the scrum.. Interesting call by Hourcade

2016-09-15T21:32:28+00:00

Beezlebub

Guest


Aussies to win, with a lot of luck maybe...

2016-09-15T10:45:25+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


I'm not sure he's resting Douglas. He's played 6 games all year.

2016-09-15T10:36:59+00:00

Train Without A Station

Roar Guru


I absolutely agree with your comments of bias. When the ARU bailed out the Waratahs (twice I think) and the Reds the sentiment was basically, "so they should". The ARU essentially purchases a stake in the Force and everybody is saying the should fold. With regards to the Waratahs example, I'd wager a few things: Western Sydney has a stronger soccer following than rugby and likely has for decades. Even in the darkest days of the NSL, soccer has always had great participation. Their problem has been that overseas leagues are their biggest competitor for fan interest. Also that Sydney FC doesn't have the entrenched support across Sydney that the Waratahs do, simply due to age. Consolidation in any way is not the way forward for rugby to achieve what it needs to. Look at the Wanderers, they came after Adelaide, Perth, Central Coast and Newcastle. Also it's not about competing with European leagues for players. Look at NZ, they don't financially compete. What they do is prepare the replacements before players leave. Those players are the ones we can keep but right now leave. Sure for more money, but only because anything is better than no money.

2016-09-15T10:23:23+00:00

Tuli Bull

Roar Rookie


92-3 What a game to remember!

2016-09-15T10:16:54+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Agree, Akari. This is not a weak team except at 10-12

2016-09-15T10:13:05+00:00

Rugby Tragic

Roar Rookie


Geez you should dilute whatever you have been drinking mate...

2016-09-15T10:12:16+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Akari, he's in Cape Town, growing even larger. Hasn't broken through Malherbe, Koch ahead of him

2016-09-15T10:09:43+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Rugby Tragic, I pronounce thee classy

2016-09-15T09:57:29+00:00

Marius Ciliers

Roar Guru


Gheheehheehhe Digger. ? I am in a fortunate possition to be supporting The Team who under new Coaching by a Razor..will take The Cake by taking The Cup from The Canes next year..? And so happens to support The AB's and The Boks and Da Los Pumas and love seeing ausies Squirm ?

2016-09-15T09:50:11+00:00

Digby

Roar Guru


Marius, deadset you are the oddest Crusader supporter I have ever met! ?

2016-09-15T09:45:54+00:00

Marius Ciliers

Roar Guru


But Mostly the Boks by plenty..good or bad.. Yeah..phoned a friend.. We concur.. Final answer.. Boks by plenty...?

2016-09-15T09:40:38+00:00

Marius Ciliers

Roar Guru


But if I have to be BOLD and adventuress..as in the female change my mind type.. and serious... Hmmm..Los Pumas to Obliterate the Wallas.. And the Boks by Plenty.. ? ...good or bad..?

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