Talking Turkey rugby league

By Stuart McLennan / Expert

I first met Turkey coach and administrator Julien Treu in October last year, at a rugby league weekend on the island of Rhodes in Greece.

He had assembled a development squad to compete in an eights tournament and a one-off international against a Greek XIII.

Turkey made the final of the six-team Rhodes 8s tournament, before being beaten by the Greek-Australian team.

The following night, the Turks were defeated 86-0 by a Greece team that had seven heritage players in their squad.

Treu was philosophical about the result the next morning, pointing out the team’s lack of experience and the lessons they had learnt from the match.

It was obvious he had a passion for the game, and a firm plan to get it up and running in Turkey.

On Christmas Day 2016, the Turkey rugby league competition was born with five teams; Eskisehir Aqua Rugy, Bilgi Badgers, Kadikoy Bulls, Olimpos RK and Bosphorus Wolves. The historic first domestic competition will run until March 2017.

I posed some questions to Julien about Turkey rugby league.

SM: What is your background and why are you so passionate about rugby league?

JT: I actually come from a place in France where rugby league doesn’t exist. I started to play rugby league quite late, when I moved to Ireland. I then moved to the Netherlands, where I met a rugby league fanatic, Ian Thompson, who shared his passion with me. I then moved to Turkey, where there was no rugby league, so after six years we decided to start it.

How did you start a rugby league competition in Turkey?

When we decided to develop rugby league in Turkey, we decided to do things properly by the book. We set ourselves achievable targets and started planning the league step by step, communicating about it in the local press.

So far it looks like our work is paying off. We would like to think it is because we are doing a good job.


The competition was established very quickly?

We’d like to believe our approach is a good one but in fairness there is no miraculous recipe. Each country has its specific needs and approach. In our case, we looked at what would be a best-fit here, starting with a decent amount of dedicated volunteers.

Once you have the people it’s a combination of timing, ideas and work. We believe that rugby league fits the Turkish mentality and has lot of potential here.


Five clubs is a good start. Is there much interest in rugby league in Turkey?

We are very pleased to start our domestic competition with five clubs and the interest in rugby league is growing among the players. We are getting requests to join on a daily basis, which makes us believe we are on the right path.


What about junior development?

We are working on it. We hope to launch an under 18 team by the end of this year, as we are getting more and more requests.


Where do the clubs come from?

We have four teams from Istanbul and one team from Eskisehir; all teams were present during a beach rugby league tournament we organised earlier in 2016 to get players interested.

Your first matches were on December 25. Was there any significance in the date?

Not at all, we set ourselves the target to start the domestic competition by the end of 2016, playing on the 25th was just pure coincidence and we have to remember December 25 is a normal day here in Turkey.


What is the focus internationally?

Once again, we like to set ourselves targets, one being to give local players opportunities to play rugby league at an international level within the next two to four years. We want to give everyone a decent chance as our focus is to develop the game locally and once we believe the game is up and running we will hopefully set ourselves higher targets.


After watching the international against Greece it is obvious your players have talent and passion but need more experience. Is that how you see it?

Well aside from the Kadikoy Bulls players, who played just one full 13 a side game previously, none of the other players ever played a rugby league game before. I was pleased with their commitment and with what I saw.

We started the game well, with some good hits and some good sets, but slowly lost our composure by not completing our sets and also having one of our players red carded early in the game.

At the end of the day, the final score is big but who cares as we have absolutely no pressure. We only introduced the rules to the players two months before the tournament, so we are confident we will do better fast.

We like to look at this experience as an achievement: that is, we managed to get to the final of the tournament on the Saturday and played again on the Sunday, against a team whose level was clearly well above ours. So we believe it was a positive experience.


Do you receive any assistance from outside your organisation?

If we are here today it is mainly due to great support we received from the Rugby League European Federation (RLEF). Our first contact was at the beginning of 2016 and they followed us through each step during our development.

Within a year the RLEF supported us with referees for our tournament, coaching courses, referee courses and all the different aspects of the game. We are grateful and are happy with their support.

We currently don’t have any sponsorship but we are working on it.


What is the dream?


My dream is to see a Turkish National rugby league team qualify for the World Cup.

The Crowd Says:

2017-01-20T00:42:39+00:00

Jonno

Guest


Sounds promising like Mike Dimitro and Mike mayer

AUTHOR

2017-01-19T09:11:59+00:00

Stuart McLennan

Expert


Glad you don't have a problem with it Clipper! Like it or not the game is growing in these countries and we are not talking about a few expats having fun in the park.

2017-01-19T02:09:26+00:00

Jonno

Guest


Yes you admitted wrestling occurs - ask the WWF Storm lads, but still room for Gallen and other front rowers etc and of course RU has used wrestling techniques for teraining for years - The strength of the Georgian RU team in the last WC is a prime example

2017-01-19T02:06:38+00:00

Jonno

Guest


WE may say that we read some RL articles out of interest, find some bizarre comment about another code and respond thereby unleashing more tit for tat responses - and the cycle goes on by which we all learn something.

2017-01-19T00:16:28+00:00

Cathar Treize

Guest


This so called 36 team Asia AFL, do they play home & away or do they all just get together over one or two days once a year? Big difference to what RL & the RLEF are trying to achieve

2017-01-18T15:23:30+00:00

Biggus

Guest


Ditto. All class, Erdo. ... and yes, Go Wests Tigers!

AUTHOR

2017-01-18T04:21:58+00:00

Stuart McLennan

Expert


Cheers Patrick! Nice to get the feedback.

2017-01-18T01:43:43+00:00

The Barry

Roar Guru


Nice post mate...well said.

2017-01-18T01:30:54+00:00

Crosscoder

Roar Guru


Greco Roman wrestlers are not generally runners a fact overlooked.Not built for speed. In fact wrestling at times is a blight on the NRL.

2017-01-18T01:27:32+00:00

Crosscoder

Roar Guru


And Clipper agrees with you Jonno..Two code warriors on the same waggon LOL? Ever bothered to consider the amount of time Clip spends on rl threads ,deriding the code? You might get an idea why he gets the response. Not going to sit back and accept his agenda.Perhaps you should read the post here by the guy with turkish origin.

2017-01-18T01:25:29+00:00

Crosscoder

Roar Guru


jonno where have I visited a ru thread or AFL one for that matter.I've got better use for my time. Any time I have fired a shot at ru or AFL, has been in response to the likes of you and Clipper and the usual mob who take delight in bagging rl.. You play with matches, you get burnt.

2017-01-18T01:24:36+00:00

clipper

Guest


Great, concise, point, Jonno.

2017-01-18T01:20:00+00:00

Jonno

Guest


Yes but they didn't originally so they had to start somewhere was the subtle point that you overlooked

2017-01-18T01:15:55+00:00

Epiquin

Roar Guru


Except that League and Union are played in those countries.

2017-01-18T01:15:05+00:00

Jonno

Guest


Like the NRL combines in Samoa, Fiji etc etc. I think MF was making a genuine point that wrestling skills are quite transferable to both rugby codes only for some classless individual with zero aspirations to see outside his own world to compare ballet to AFL - something NRL will never be accused of.

2017-01-18T01:14:07+00:00

Jonno

Guest


Of course CC has never had a shot at Rugby or AFL nor used selective stats deceptively to make his case

2017-01-18T00:47:39+00:00

Crosscoder

Roar Guru


Not controversial at all , just plain sarcasm. You have made it plain and obvious you don't like rl,,Any mention of a start up in a country by that code ,is met by derision by you time after time. Now after all that time and many posts ,you now show a teensy teensy bit of magnanimity, by stating it's good to see people play sport.That is stating the obvious. Here is a country with a large population, and due to the efforts of a couple of individuals with the RLEF(which you also had a shot at in the past)support, created in a very short space of time ,now a 5 team competition. .And BTW we have experienced roadblocks put in our way in a couple of countries by a rival code. We applaud their efforts, you on the other hand do not.I have not read one ,not one positive post from you in rl threads. What the AFL or other codes do, we don't spend our time having a shot on their threads.If they choose not to report developments so be it.

2017-01-17T23:39:35+00:00

clipper

Guest


What was controversial? All I've said is that it's good to see more people play sport, no matter how small the numbers - 5 league teams in Turkey, 36 AFL teams in ALF Asia - they're only small numbers in the scheme of things, obviously a few people are trying something different. But who knows with sports - look at Kabbaddi - only started their world cup in 2000 and is going from strength to strength and has Olympic recognition.

2017-01-17T23:20:51+00:00

Crosscoder

Roar Guru


Nice bit of wool pulling over our eyes.Had to chuckle. Which means you do have a problem.Your continual swipes at this code are self evident and well known.Especially when you ignore problems within your preferred code. I hardly think any one is suggesting a new country is going to take over the world.Any new development with little resources to assist is something to acknowledge.You find it unsettling, for whatever reason.

2017-01-17T22:37:31+00:00

clipper

Guest


I don't have any problem with these pieces - it's great to see people playing more sport - just yesterday Antony Pincombe posted that there is s already a league in Asia called AFL Asia. These are the teams; Vietnam Swans, Hong Kong Dragons, Malaysie warriors, Jakarta Bintangs, thailand Tigers, HK Lantau lizards (SCAFL), singapore Wombats, Hong Kong Typhoons (SCAFL), Guangzhou scorpions, Philippine eagles, etc etc etc. there are 36 teams. Great news - more people playing sport, doing something a little different - it's only when people get overexcited and think that's proof the codes are expanding internationally instead of a few people having a bit of fun that I take exception to.

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