Toronto Wolfpack bring a new era to rugby league

Clipper sounds very jealous lol

Well they have gotten crowds of 7 thousand in Toronto for Wolfpack games. And they have a good chance in making the Superleague. What you fail to realise is Rugby League is a far more marketable sport than AFL at an international level. Rugby League has professional clubs in Canada England New Zealand France Australia AFL is still yet to grow out of Australia despite being a much older sport.

Well they survived the season and playing to make it into the UK Super league. They have had crowds of 7,000 with support from the local Canadian press. Meanwhile AFL keeps flogging those no interest games in China.

I do not agree. Look at http://www.screengeek.net/2016/10/13/5-reasons-the-attitude-era-was-the-greatest-in-wrestling-history/

Barry old chum, nothing I’ve said attempts to ‘re-write history’. You’re on another tangent there ‘good chap’ and you’ve failed to adequately address any of the actual points I have raised. And popping up this article, written by a dyed in the wool league fan from the north of England with a clear agenda against rugby that oozes through from the first paragraph and beyond, and trying to pass it is justification for you self-proclaimed ‘facts’ suggests that tangent you’re operating on is far from what we know as planet Earth. No doubt you can find real facts to suggest that there are more rules, more kicking, more stoppages and more time with the ball out of play in rugby, but trying to link these facts to create a ‘Baz-fact’ (copy write 2017) that this therefore means rugby league is more entertaining than rugby union is just laughable. I can accept this is your opinion but you have to try and understand that what is entertaining is in the eye of the beholder and because it’s your opinion (supported by whatever irrelevant facts and one-eyed articles you want to bring to the party), doesn’t make it fact. Just as my opinion (which happens to be that I find both codes entertaining), nor the opinion of a dyed in the wool ‘ra-ra’ fan who finds league repetitive and boring isn’t ‘fact’. Until you can wrap your head around this, we’re at a dead-end. Good day to you Bazza.

Rob my good sir. Im so glad for your rebuttal on this fine day. Firstly. Self proclaimed facts and misinformation you say. As much as you want to you just can't rewrite history just to suit your own narrative my good chap and since your unwilling to except the rantings of this neanderthal let me share with you this finely written article on these fake points that I can't stop harping on about, then we can talk more about these pipe smokers you mentioned. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/active/11840935/Why-rugby-league-is-obviously-better-than-rugby-union.html Finally it sounds like we can agree on something when it comes to these tweed wearing, pipe smokers you mention. I personally wouldn't say holding a gun but more so with fines, threats, sanctions and imprisonment, or holding a gun.....so i guess your rite about something after all. Have a nice day.

I have no 'beef' with you 'baz'. I don't know you. Which is why I'm being a 'keyboard warrior' and not correcting your misinformation in person. And typing comments that disagree with others is kind of one of the things that this site is all about. The fact that you feel compelled to label someone as a keyboard warrior who dares to challenge your self-proclaimed fact based opinion and that you still can't see entertainment value as being a completely and utterly subjective variable that changes with the individual speaks volumes. Yes there must be this pipe-smoking, tweed patch jacket wearing foggie holding a gun to the millions of rugby fans around the world telling them to watch rugby and to steer clear of league! Another way of looking at it as simplistically as you have is analyzing the respective global audiences because surely if more people are watching something then it must be more entertaining (sarcasm)! There are millions of fans who find things that you may believe are boring (such as the intricate battles that occur within a game of rugby like the scrum and lineout) as compelling viewing. There's also a common criticism outside of league (not my own) that the game is too repetitive and therefore boring. Did you ever consider that is might impact the games 'entertainment value' when selling it to foreign audiences? Beyond attempting to pull another code down to push up the one he's involved in (which isn't a great long term sales technique), I have no issue with Perez. Good on him for what he's trying to achieve. I think he has incredibly lofty ambitions (verging on la la land stuff) but in the general scheme of things there's no harm in that.

Why do you have a beef with me posting factual comments (neg as they may be) on a RL post about one of our main competitors? The entertainment value statement is based upon all the other aspects of union (ie more rules, more convoluted, slower, ect, ect) compared to league, which are factual, not opinions, so why you choose to bring that part of my comment up is odd? Same go's for my original quote from Perez which is again fact. And lets not forget the oppression aspect (once again fact) to round it all off. Raise some facts and the keyboard warriors lose their minds! To end on a ironic note. Isn't it wonderful that an ex union player and his main financial backer (union tragic) chose to start a RL franchise. Look it up, its true, its all true. Says it all really.

Perez played rugby union before he saw rugby league. If he wanted to start a pro rugby union side he would have.

+ one million more for this comment

On a serious note .Something keeps drawing you in to rl threads. Suggest Sydney South Africa and Sydney/Brisbane to Sth America would be longer commute. They are in the Guiness book of records for the first transatlantic competition.They no complain.

Wazza I am more interested in what he has done to date in his short time being involved in the game. Regardless of what anyone thinks he is a visionary. Many do not succeed but to be successful you need it. I wish everyone would stop finding reasons for it to fail and get behind an individual who has sacrificed everything to follow his dream regardless of their sporting preferences.

On a lighter note- these guys should be in the Guinness book of records for world's longest commute.

They've forgotten that while they were decrying Perez and the Wolfpack, the club had inked a deal with Premier Sports and Air Transat to telecast their games and to sponsor the club by covering travel, respectively. It's almost as if they willingly shut their minds down when arguing their points.

Well swamprat Perez and co ,are selling gelato to the Canadians.Full of exciting flavours. Wazza. Perez from a PR point of view is off to a decent start even getting teh Airline sponsorship deal on many us stations websites. Even you and swamp rat know about it.

Correct.

Got to admit Perez has that PR gift of telling people what they want to hear. The chap could sell ice to Canadians.

Tingo Tango ive seen it. Very convincing wasn't he. I like the bit where he squirms in his seat when the reporter kept asking him about Rugby League being shown on TV in Canada and he had to keep backtracking to say how big it is over there and everyone will watch. Now he just has to make everyone aware in North America a sport called Rugby League exists.

"I just wonder if the Wolfpacks backer is actually making it harder for himself by being so generous. Surely players in the above division will want to get in on the all expenses paid trip to Canada, knowing there would be no such luxury in the division above and want to play in that division, thereby making it harder for the Wolfpack to progress upwards." Do you write these things just to sound ridiculous or do you actually believe it?

Which reality? The one that sees the glass half full or the one that thinks the glass is a toilet bowl?