Are the Maroons smart enough to realise Cherry-Evans is the future?

By Tim Gore / Expert

If Kevin Walters and his fellow selectors truly care about the future of the Queensland State of Origin side, beyond the current campaign, they must now do what they should have been doing since 2015 and select Daly Cherry-Evans.

It’s a total freaking no brainer.

Why haven’t they? Well, they’ve been too busy winning with the best side that Origin has ever seen.

They’ve won ten out of the last 11 series and the team – with a group of ageing champions at the helm – are even a chance to steal this one.

However, it is the responsibility of the coach, selectors and the side’s leadership to not just win the series at hand but also to ensure the squad is constantly refreshed by breaking in the next generation – the ones who will continue on when the old stars inevitably retire.

And that is particularly the case when it comes to the key position players.

Sometimes, like Darren Lockyer and Andrew Johns, players choose their time to depart and go out on top. Others bow out losers – like Paul Gallen, like Nate Myles.

Johnathan Thurston has bowed out of State of Origin a winner with a busted shoulder. At the age of 34 he’s had a great run. A veteran of 37 State of Origin appearances, he sits only behind the co-aged Cam Smith as the most capped Origin player of all time.

(AAP Image/Dan Peled)

Thurston has only missed one Origin game since he debuted for the Maroons in 2005 – and that was Game 1 this year.

But now he’s gone and Queensland have to figure out what to do without him.

And fast.

Thurston’s Origin career has spanned the most dominant period by either side in the series’ history. A large part of the reason for that is how many great players have converged at the one time, and then stayed together.

Just look at this:

Name Origin games Origin games 2006 -present All time QLD rank
Cam Smith 41 34 #1
Johnathan Thurston 37 34 #2
Darren Lockyer 36 15 #3
Petero Civoneceva 33 18 #6
Nate Myles 32 32 #7
Greg Inglis 30 30 #9
Sam Thaiday 29 29 #10
Darius Boyd 28 28 #11
Steve Price 28 11 #11
Billy Slater 28 23 #11
Justin Hodges 24 21 #16
Brent Tate 23 17 #19
Matt Scott 22 22 #21
Cooper Cronk 21 21 #25
Corey Parker 19 16 #30
Matt Gillett 17 17 #34
368/595 (61.85%)

That’s right, you read correctly. Just 16 players have taken 61.85 per cent of all of the Queensland Origin caps on offer since the beginning of 2006. 368 of the 595 possible spots have been taken by the above 16 players.

Just to give you an idea of how remarkable that is, the 17 most capped New South Wales players of all time have played 364 games combined. That’s one more player for four fewer caps.

It has been on the back of this settled side that the Maroon dynasty has been built. During that period the names of the players wearing the 1, 6, 7 and 9 jerseys have virtually been static. The change from Darren Lockyer to Cooper Cronk was seamless, with the Storm halfback serving a two-series apprenticeship on the Maroon bench before Lockyer’s retirement.

However, even after seeing how successful that model was, they have not followed it with Cherry-Evans – in spite of the advancing years of both Cronk and Thurston.

While those within the inner sanctum of the Maroons deny it black and blue, it seems to many that the Manly halfback has been exiled.

Why?

(Photo: AAP)

Firstly, the majority of the blame for Queensland’s one series defeat in the last 11 – 2014 – seems to have been laid at the feet of Cherry-Evans. When Cronk was injured early in Game 1 of that series, Cherry-Evans had to step up from his utility role off the bench to playing No.7.

The Maroons failed to adjust and they went down 12-4, and then also lost Game 2 by 6-4, losing their first series in nine years.

Although the side still featured superstars Thurston, Smith, Hodges, Inglis and Slater – who at that point had a combined 118 State of Origin games between them – somehow the majority of the blame has seemingly been laid at the feet of Cherry-Evans, who had only played two games at that stage.

That’s bizarro-world stuff. It’s like blaming a first-term parliamentarian for the failures of the cabinet.

Secondly, it is a possibility that the established Queensland players don’t think he’s cool enough to be in their club. Writing in the Fairfax press, Andrew Webster said on the matter:

“The belief that [The Queensland players] have a set against him is too strong… it’s true that he doesn’t snugly fit into a Maroons culture and set-up that has been in place for years.

For that reason it wouldn’t surprise if Cherry-Evans – despite his form – was overlooked for the decider at Suncorp Stadium on July 12, although the word is he’s “back in the mix”.”

There’s a huge problem with this. As we’ve seen above, that “Maroons culture and set up that has been in place for years” is owned by players who have now been dropped, retired or are just about to retire. The idea that a culture of cool could still block the very best playmaker Queensland has in the wings is outrageous – especially if that “culture and set up” claims to actually care about what happens to Queensland fortunes once they retire.

They need to come to terms with the fact that their time as the kings of the schoolyard is nearing the end. Leaving their side in the best possible health should be their number one priority. They are merely caretakers of the jerseys, not their owners.

Further, the success of Queensland in the future has to be a very high priority for Kevin Walters. He cannot possibly allow such schoolyard popularity issues to overwhelm his role and judgement.

Thirdly, in 2015, Cherry-Evans backflipped on his deal with the Titans to stay with the Sea Eagles, which saw him become one of the most hated men in the game. However, then-CEO David Smith had inexplicably left that loophole open – DCE did nothing against the rules, and nothing other players had not done before him.

Further, as it was a Queensland club, there was a suggestion in some quarters that he had somehow been disloyal to his state. I find that idea very odd, as I’m not sure the Broncos have ever been worried one bit about helping the Titans – or any other Gold Coast incarnation – be successful.

I recently met Daly Cherry-Evans one-on-one and had a chat. As he plays for the Sea Eagles, I was sort of hoping to dislike him. I was sort of hoping that he would be a tosser.

Imagine my disappointment when I discovered he is an extremely personable, articulate, polite and lovely guy.

But he is. I just have to accept it. So should you.

Haters are going to hate, but in reality there is no good reason to.

Yet when Kevin Walters was first asked who he’d bring in to replace Thurston, Cherry-Evans was not included among the four names he brought up.

Cherry-Evans’ superb showing against the Sharks last weekend all of a sudden has Walters backpedalling to say DCE is in contention.

But he shouldn’t just be in contention, he should be a lay-down misere for the role. The stats clearly bear that out. Just look how he compares against Kevvie’s other contenders:

Age NRL games Origin games Try assists Line break assists Trys Line breaks 40/20s
Daly Cherry-Evans 28 160 6 13 12 2 2 2
Michael Morgan 25 115 7 6 2 5 6 1
Moses Mbye 23 71 0 4 4 1 3 0
Corey Norman 26 136 0 4 2 3 3 2
Cameron Munster 22 56 0 5 7 0 4 0

Cherry-Evans this time will not be replacing the ultimate structure of Cronk, he’ll be replacing the creative, running flair of Thurston.

While no one could ever replace the great JT, DCE has the credentials when it comes to putting teammates through holes and playing what he sees. He’s twice as good as the best of his opponents in that regard. Further, he has six games experience in the Origin arena.

While his superior attacking stats are to be expected, it is his defence where DCE really adds unexpected value to the Queensland side.

Tackles Missed tackles Missed tackle percentage
Cooper Cronk 14 1.3 9.3%
Daly Cherry-Evans 25 1.8 7.2%
Michael Morgan 13 2.6 20%
Moses Mbye 21 2.7 12.85%
Corey Norman 16 1 6.25%
Cameron Munster 18 2.2 12.2%

Of all of the options for the No.6 jersey, Cherry-Evans is clearly the best tackler. He is used to being run at all day but, unlike the likes of James Maloney, DCE is no turnstile. Far from it. He is a great defender.

In a game where lots believe the Maroons will have to really step up in defence if they are to be a chance, Cherry-Evans comes with great credentials. In his six Origin appearances, he has missed just five tackles.

For the best part of a decade, the Queensland side has revelled in success. It weren’t broke so they didn’t fix it. They kept playing the winning combinations. And why not? They won. Lots.

However, their ongoing regeneration of the side was allowed to lapse as a result. The bloodletting after the Origin 1 thrashing has seen the greenest Maroon side in a long time.

They are now desperate to pull off a great escape to claim their 11th series in 12 years and they must do it without arguably the greatest player to have ever laced up a boot.

Their unbelievable fortune is that they have a superb, long-term replacement – with Origin experience! – standing by. Now they’ve just got to be smart enough to select him.

All of NSW should be hoping that they aren’t.

The Crowd Says:

2017-07-12T12:58:04+00:00

Martin Millard

Roar Pro


Cameron Munster. Cherry who?

2017-07-11T23:33:12+00:00

Wild Eagle

Guest


That's the sort of lecture us Eagles supporters had to cop from the anti Barrett crowd. " Barrett isn't Manly and he will never get the culture blah blah blah ...... Anyone who goes on with crap like this is clueless , it is that simple. NSW will have their time in the sun again when they have the better players. Not too hard to understand is it?

2017-07-11T15:57:23+00:00

Roger Ramjet

Guest


Always worrying when hack journo's like Webster/Red Nose Buzzhead etc quote in their articles sources from within the club or in this article "The Queensland players" to validate their tall stories but never provide actual names- Bit like the old government and or government departments spokesperson said blah blah blah- no names mentioned - take it with a grain of salt.

2017-07-04T21:41:03+00:00

mAIA

Guest


The qld team is picked according to a game plan to beat the Blues in the decider. DCE is definately back next year.

2017-07-02T11:47:45+00:00

Sam Divo

Guest


I am with you, all Great players were once nobody...Go DCE your time for No#6

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2017-06-30T16:42:33+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


There's a reason canberra was put in this location Jimmmy. They wanted to make sure it could never be a successful city in its own right. Not only did they not put it on the coast - quite bizarre in 1908 as most transport was by sea and Eden was equidistant from both Sydney and Melbourne ( and Adelaide and Brisbane) - they didn't even put it on the main road between syd and Melbourne (goulburn for example). It wasn't even on the train line. It could never attract industry. As a result It could never attract a population other than government workers - who Menzies made come in the 50s and 60s - and the support services for them. These things meant it would never attract a population that could become powerful in its own right. The house of reps has 150 seats. Whoever holds the majority holds government. Canberra by virtue of its population should have at least 3 - arguably 4 - right now. It only has two. If it had four then two seats would disappear elsewhere in a distribution. Possibly Sydney or Melbourne. That would not only make canberra more powerful/ influential, it would do the reverse to sydney and melbourne. the mob who chose Canberras stupid location were very aware of this reality. They were never going to set up a place that would hurt their duopoly of power. They wanted it to fail. They intended it to fail. Menzies realized in the 50s that it wasn't going to disappear so he might as well do it properly as he was sick of taking foreign dignitaries to a. cold sheep paddock. So he made the government departments finally move up from Melbourne and established the ANU. He created the NCDC to make those tree lined streets and fund a designed and spread out city. A totally unsustainable city that the federal government had to fund. In the 80s Keating withdrew that funding and forced self government on us, making the people of canberra pay for their unsustainable city that industry wouldn't come to. The rates, rents, house prices, fines, charges and other costs are some of the highest in the land. Salaries had to be higher to attract and retain employees in such a cold, irrelevant location. Ironically many who complain about canberra fat cats also say "you couldn't pay me enough to live there." Including west Australians. And still we get kicked and blamed. We've got some footy teams we love though. It's not all bad - although it's minus 7 outside as I write this - but I really do tire of canberra bashing when most of it doesn't understand why it is so and how - once again - Sydney and Melbourne are to blame.

AUTHOR

2017-06-30T16:12:19+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Thanks Bee Bee. We live in hope. It'll be minus 2 for kick off tonight...

AUTHOR

2017-06-30T16:11:16+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Oh, I frequent QLD as often as possible!

2017-06-30T13:35:43+00:00

Bee bee

Guest


Although Tim, you realise Canberra was created because the power brokers of Sydney and Melbourne could not agree where the Capital should be at the turn of the 20th century. You could say you are here because of the same power dynamic that continues to dupe us all. I like to think of Canberra as the neglected child of jilted lovers. Hopefully Canberra can finally move out and individuate from its narcissistic parents over the coming years. If that fails just remember your crazy rebellious cousin Queensland has beer on tap and great rum. And he loves Rugby League. Your welcome anytime.

2017-06-30T13:09:05+00:00

Bee bee

Guest


I enjoy your articles more than any other writer here Tim. Ronan on cricket is pretty great too. Thanks for replying to my silly rant. My comment was a cheap shot. It was meant to be amusing but I apologise as it obviously offended. What I am has no relevance. Am I good at it. Who cares. You certainly are correct I am no political commentator. Thanks for the political lesson. Good luck to your Raiders. They can still turn this rubbish season around. Keep smiling Tim. You are doing a fantastic job. I

2017-06-30T11:08:28+00:00

damo

Guest


Kevvie mentioned Mbye because he is a childish wanker (KW, not MM) no two ways about it. DCE has been a superstar in waiting since he was killing it in the QLD Cup, will possibly lead his team to another premiership this year & if not is showing all the hallmarks of a great player in leading the rebuild of a team that should be in freefall. I'm a Bulldogs fan, so no love lost for Manly & I hope Foz goes great for us, but if you gave me his money & choice between DCE & him then please let us have the cherry on top.

2017-06-30T04:30:11+00:00

Jimmmy

Guest


As I walk the tree lined Streets of Canberra past the perfectly manicured lawns watching Canberrans drive along This wonderously smooth Tarmac unknown to people from further north , I too wonder how it is that other Australians have been suckered into false beliefs. Do they really think that Canberra produces anything useful to anyone ? . Do they really think that city is anything but an artificial edifice propped up by huge amounts of federal government spending along with a share of GST revenue that would make a West Australian spill what's left of their beer after the pollies have taken their share. Still the locals are friendly and the wonderfully generous incomes they make mean I am not shouting tonight.

2017-06-30T02:29:09+00:00

steveng

Roar Rookie


I get worried and very concerned when all us New South Welshmen and women give the Qld'ers too many options and sensible picks for their SOO sides!!! Stop it!!! lol

2017-06-30T01:57:23+00:00

kk

Roar Pro


This country needs the Bunker system. At least we could get some decisions. Will be thinking of you working outside at GIO tomorrow night in -2 The scheduled time slot would have to rank as the most maleficent act of the season. Hope the 34 come through OK.

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2017-06-30T01:22:07+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Particular subject of irritation MAX There's the great line in "The Usual Suspects" "The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled is convincing people he didn't exist." I can't stand how people are so badly duped and have so little understanding of the how the country works. Such advantage is taken of them because of their ignorance. And we here in Canberra are actually powerless to change it...

2017-06-30T01:13:44+00:00

kk

Roar Pro


Perchance M'Lord is suffering from island fever. (smile)

AUTHOR

2017-06-30T01:05:10+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


That all changes next year. All of it. Respect... It's a shifting sand.

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2017-06-30T01:02:48+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


And the naive/totally duped award goes to (drum roll...) BEE BEE! Let me give you a lesson in why you have been completely duped into how politics happens in this country and who actually is in charge. All youse out there in greater Australia think that we here in Canberra (pronounced Kan-Berrah by you, pronounced Kam-Brah by the locals - nearly 450,000 of us now) run the country and make all the decisions. If only we did. But we don't. Not even close to it. In fact no area in the country has less input. Firstly, lets look at who makes the decisions. Did you know over 75% of all the Prime Ministers Australia has ever had have come from Sydney and Melbourne. Its the same for the treasurers. Post world war 2 that goes up over 90%. 0% of both have come from Canberra. over a third of all Australia's federal politicians come from Sydney and Melbourne. Add Brisbane and you are well over 50%. of the 226 federal politicians just four come from Canberra. that's just 1.7%. And you've never heard of any of them. So when Prime Ministers get rolled in the party room It is incredibly unlikely that Canberra had anything to do with it, let alone being the driving force. Further, When Rudd (Brisbane) got rolled by Gillard (Melbourne) the support she required to do it mostly came from Sydney and Melbourne. When Rudd (Brisbane) rolled Gillard (Melbourne) the support he required to do it mostly came from Sydney and Melbourne. When Turnbull (Sydney) rolled Abbott (Sydney) the support he required mostly came from Sydney and Melbourne. When it comes to the sway that the people of Canberra have at the ballot box it is less than any other voters in the country. We have a population of over 400,000 yet we have only two senators and two seats in the house of reps. Taswegia has a population of 500,000 and has 17 representatives. Their lower house electorates have roughly 40,000 voters in them. Ours have 140,000+. They are the biggest electorates in the country voter wise. Our vote is not equal. We have less representation and less sway over the political direction of this country than any other people in the country. HOWEVER the politicians of Sydney and Melbourne - and the other capitals too from time to time - have managed to fool the great majority of people in the country to blame Canberra for all of the unpopular decisions and actions THAT THEY'VE ACTUALLY DONE! And you fall for it. You blame Canberra. It is a vote earner for politicians to say that they are going to lay the boot into Canberra. It's like the people of Australia go to the toilet and leave their beer on the bar while they go to the toilet. The Sydney and Melbourne pollies then drink 3/4s of their beer and when they come back they tell them it was little old Canberra - sitting over in the corner - who did it. They then take Canberra outside and beat him up, while you stand by and cheer. We terminated no one. BTW I think Morgan is the future, outside of DCE. And I'm incredibly good at my job Dee Dee. Really, really good. What do you do? I'm assuming that it isn't political commentary.

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2017-06-29T23:27:28+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


This match will be won on defence AND attack. DCE is the best option in both. As for combinations... If you just wanna win this game, maybe. A last hurrah of the dynasty? It's selling out Queensland's future.

AUTHOR

2017-06-29T23:25:07+00:00

Tim Gore

Expert


Aazaa.. We've been running a Number seven at number six if you hadn't noticed. A ball running, play what he sees number seven - at number six. That is the Queensland model. That's what they've been doing.

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