Is meddling Ed about to chop off Bucks' head?

By Josh / Expert

On Monday morning, the Collingwood Magpies will face their biggest and most important decision in years – do they keep Nathan Buckley on as coach of the club in 2018 and beyond? Or do they swing the axe?

It’s clear from any angle that not all is well at Collingwood at the moment. The club has been through a comprehensive review process of its own operations this year in an attempt to determine where improvement is needed.

The short answer is, basically everywhere. The Collingwood Football Club is firing on exactly zero cylinders at the moment. They’re not the worst team in the league by any stretch, but no part of them is performing as well as they expect themselves to.

How much of that blame though can be attributed to the senior coach? Thank goodness for the story-sniffers who put a camera on the window of the Holden Centre on Tuesday – they’ve given us an inkling of what Collingwood think their problem is, and it’s not all the man in the chair.

Of the items that made the list, there’s a trio that immediately take my attention. “A restructure of the list management division,” also “more input from the club’s leadership group in list management and recruiting,” and finally “review and repair TPP model over next 12 months.”

From these proposed solutions we can reverse-engineer what one of Collingwood’s biggest problems is: their list management is diabolical.

And look, you and I could talk about this for days. The list management decisions made at Collingwood since Nathan Buckley took over as senior coach have been an occasionally thrilling, occasionally vomit-inducing, certainly unique Luna Park thrillride, and they’ve been covered in detail by many people in recent times, including myself at the start of the year.

The better question to ask is why has it been this way? From the outside looking in we tend to define club eras by senior coaches and assume they are all one stable period of management, but the reality of Collingwood under Nathan Buckley is that they’ve had a revolving door parade of football managers, a role that is perhaps equally as important as the senior coach, albeit infinitely less visible.

The fact that Collingwood could go through a process last year where Graeme Allan takes over the club after the season ends, recruits the likes of Daniel Wells and Chris Mayne, and then is forced to resign before the Pies play even a minute of competitive football under his leadership is like something out of the Trump administration.

Daniel Wells has done exactly what it says on the box – play elite footy, but only for about a third of the year – and Chris Mayne the laughably horrendous nightmare failure that literally anyone who has watched AFL for five minutes would’ve told you it would be.

Given all that it’s no surprise that the list management team is in need of some serious feng shui, that the salary cap model is a Frankenstein mess, and that the leadership group among the players would be livid about not being consulted on potential recruits.

(Photo by Scott Barbour/Getty Images)

Why has this been allowed to be the case? Well, that bring us to our next entry on the Collingwood fixer-upper to do list, and this is probably the most important. If Collingwood has one single problem they need to solve, this is it.

“Greater transparency in future staff appointments.”

I know, it sounds like meaningless HR buzzwords, but the short version of what it means is: Eddie, you can not make the staffing decisions all by your lonesome.

McGuire and Collingwood headhunted Allan to join the club for the 2016 AFL season in a supporting role in the football department, something of a step down from his role as the footy boss at GWS, but steadfastly denied that they planned to put him in the top role. You can tell where this is going.

At the end of the year, Collingwood announced Allan would move into the leading role. Neil Balme, the current football boss who the Pies had headhunted from Geelong in a similar fashion just a short while beforehand, was unceremoniously tossed out of his job, with a guaranteed-but-highly-ambiguous new, lesser role promised to him.

Balme ultimately turned that down and took up a new role at Richmond where he has undoubtedly played a key part in the club’s return to finals. Make of that what you will.

Of course, as already discussed, it backfired on Collingwood in the most exasperating way possible, and Balme was already out the door. The Pies wound up picking up Geoff Walsh, less than four years after he quit Collingwood to move to North Melbourne, to be replaced by Rodney Eade to be replaced by Balme to be replaced by Allan to be replaced by himself again. They reportedly had a go at trying to pinch Graham Wright away from Hawthorn just recently.

Worse than this bizarre carousel of footy bosses, however, is the suggestion put forward is that these decisions are made silently, presumably spearheaded almost entirely by Eddie McGuire. It is staggering, for example, that Nathan Buckley was not consulted at all on the decision to headhunt Allan, with whom he would be expected to work closely.

Don’t get me wrong – I’m not an Eddie McGuire hater, and I say that despite the fact that he regularly makes it more and more difficult not to be. His administration of Collingwood from a financial point of view has been nothing short of dazzling, and any club in the league would kill to have a figurehead with his media visibility and obvious passion.

At some point though it has to be recognised that the football department decisions he’s overseen in recent years – from the Nathan Buckley succession plan to the Graeme Allan disaster – have not taken the club where it wants to be. A rigorous, stable, collaborative team effort is needed to make the right call, hence: “Greater transparency in future staff appointments.”

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That has to start now, right now, with the decision of whether or not to retain Buckley, and if not, who to replace him with. It’s time for one last look at the Holden Centre Whiteboard.

“Improving specific areas of Collingwood’s game, including kicking skills, goal kicking, tackling and ruck work.” And also, “providing a mentor for the senior coach.”

Look, that first sentence would be great mid-act one-liner in a stand-up act. It’s the kind of thing that Titus O’Reilly’s wet dreams are made of. I mean that really only leaves running, clearances and tying your shoelaces as the areas of the game Collingwood believe they’re competent in.

That is a coaching issue. That is one hundred per cent a coaching issue. It’s a failure of the coaching team, and what needs to be worked out is what parts of the coaching team can be salvaged and which can’t.

It doesn’t necesarilly mean that Bucks has to go. Richmond faced a simillar magnitude of being remarkably bad last year but through some clever shuffling of the assistant coaches and a bold change of attitude by Damien Hardwick have revitalised the club. It’s rare, but it can be done.

However, I believe the latter of those two quotes tells us whether or not Nathan Buckley is going to be given that chance: “Providing a mentor for the senior coach.”

As things stand, Nathan Buckley is actually the seventh most experienced senior coach in the league. The days where it could be reasonably said that he needs a ‘mentor’ are long past.

On top of that: when’s the last time a senior coach finished the season without a new contract and then was given one? Sorry Bucks, but the odds just aren’t in your favour here.

For those reasons, I believe Nathan Buckley is set to coach his last game as senior coach of the Collingwood Football Club tomorrow. The Pies need change, and they need a lot more change that just sacking Nathan Buckley, but that looks likely to be at least a part of the change that occurs.

Who knows – I could be wildly wrong. But the truth is, I’m already pondering the best headline for his sacking in my head, and I reckon I’ll get to use it.

The Crowd Says:

2017-08-25T23:33:05+00:00

664 the neighbour of the beast

Guest


Dude....buy a fullstop!

2017-08-25T09:54:04+00:00

Gungadin

Guest


A lot of sense in this speculation. I like both Eddie and Nathan, but thats irrelevant. For the club to go forward it has to have change. You could hear on tv quite clearly to booing from Collingwood supporters this year. It is the ugliest, boring, confusing style of football Collingwood has ever had. In 1976 we had the worst result, in 1977 we had a great dissapointment but we played in two grand finals. Because we changed coaches. Forget the buzz and weasle words and change things.

2017-08-25T09:17:38+00:00

Peter The Scribe

Guest


Roos offered a 2 year gig as Bucks mentor under Director of Coaching, Buckley 2 years senior coach extension.

2017-08-25T09:04:51+00:00

Raimond

Roar Guru


Collingwood fans are still living in the 1930s, and don't really care. Why should we?

2017-08-25T08:50:07+00:00

Lroy

Guest


If Buckley was going to get sacked it would have happened already ala Rodney Eade at GC Clubs don't keep a guy if hes not going to be there next season, the new guy needs to come in as soon as possible so he can have a say on who gets drafted and be involved in the hiring of assistants etc.

2017-08-25T08:07:48+00:00

truetigerfan

Guest


Really good article, Josh. Agree wholeheartedly. The shake up that is required will be interesting to say the least. Ultimately though . . . I couldn't give a rat's!

AUTHOR

2017-08-25T07:31:00+00:00

Josh

Expert


I can't help but think that Lyon and Collingwood would be a hideously bad pairing. Lyon and Gold Coast, on the other hand...

AUTHOR

2017-08-25T07:30:22+00:00

Josh

Expert


Agreed re Malthouse. The funny thing about the captain's call is that if you get it right, you look like a bloody genius. Admittedly, signing a deal to get Malthouse out right before he won a flag takes the shine off it a little.

AUTHOR

2017-08-25T07:29:23+00:00

Josh

Expert


Yes, I'm a little surprised that there hasn't been some kind of challenge, when you consider that Richmond had a rival board challenge last year despite only missing one season of finals.

AUTHOR

2017-08-25T07:28:31+00:00

Josh

Expert


Sorry Rene. What I meant was, I didn't know those specifics of the voting process, but I expected it would be much like that. I'm well aware there are many Pies fans unsatisfied with Eddie, but I can also very much understand how it is that he's been voted in without opposition.

AUTHOR

2017-08-25T07:27:01+00:00

Josh

Expert


If the Pies go through all this process only to reinstate Bucks and he flops again, it's going to be a hard sell to get some faith from the fans, certainly.

2017-08-25T07:20:32+00:00

FreoKnight

Guest


Eddie deserves some credit for bringing in Malthouse. If not for the Brisbane team of the early 2000s (which I think was a bloody good team built on salary cap, trade and draft concessions as much as anything else including a tough as nails coach) Collingwood may very well have had another Premiership Trophy in the cabinet and possibly two. Collingwood made the same mistake about the same time as Brisbane and Essendon, in that they appointed a favourite son as senoir coach without them having at least a couple of years assistant coaching experience at another club. Eddie deserves some criticism for this appointment but they weren't the only club that made this mistake at this time. And it might be worth pointing out that they faired much better than the other two clubs that made this mistake.

2017-08-25T06:35:39+00:00

FreoKnight

Guest


Collingwood need more outside experience in their coaching ranks and they need a head coach who has had assistant coaching experience outside the club they played at. Football is a game of contacts and influence, as much as it is a game of technique and skill. Spending time as an assistant coach at a different club to the one they played at broadens a coaches experiences and contacts This gives them extra tools in their coaching tool kit, so to speak, before they are exposed to the caldrum that is the head coaches position.

2017-08-25T05:58:24+00:00

The Fatman

Guest


I don't know what the club is thinking at the moment. The speculation of Buckley's future was quelled in the short-term when Pert announced that Buckley would remain senior coach for the remainder of the year, but beyond that no one is sure of what the club is planning to do. Eddie has asserted that the decision won't be made based on the performances that we've produced after the Essendon match when the rumours of Buckley's immediate coaching future were extinguished for the short-term. If Eddie is being truthful, then the club will obviously assess what we've produced this year and potentially assess his coaching performances from previous years and whether this has satisfied the expectations of the club internally. The club has made noises about pushing for the finals in the last few years, which I always thought was somewhat unrealistic, especially in 2014 and 2015 when a rebuild of some sorts was being undertaken, but I wonder whether they truly expected us to be pushing for the 8 in these years or whether this was a way to convince supporters to renew or sign up for their memberships. If these expectations were being espoused both internally and externally, then Buckley has clearly fallen short of that mark and it would be difficult to mount an argument to extend his contract. However, my gut feeling for a while has been that he would remain senior coach beyond this year, but a significant shake up of the football department and assistant coaches would occur, similar to what we saw with Richmond last year, but maybe it will not eventuate that way however. I feel that if Buckley was on the verge of not being renewed as coach, then the media would have started speculating about his demise already, which hasn't been apparent recently. I don't think he's been a bad coach this year and he's been gradually improving from year to year as he attains more experience as a senior coach, but fundamentally the same issues under him have continued to rear their ugly head in relation to the game plan and he hasn't delivered on results. We've been having these debates dating back to 2014/2015 and I suspect if most thought we'd been here two or three years later stagnating and showing little progression in terms of wins and losses, then most would have understood that the potential for him to depart is very likely. I just hope that when the club makes this important decision that it makes the right one, rather than the popular one, because any further setbacks from here could lead to a wasted decade for the club, similar to what we saw in the mid to late 90s. Arguably, we've lost about half a decade under this current system, and further setbacks beyond this year would be harmful for the club, so the club has reached the crossroads here and now is required to make an informed decision. Either back the coach and give him everything you afford to give him, or move him on and start again.

2017-08-25T05:34:35+00:00

Brayden Rise

Roar Pro


The rumour going around this afternoon is Paul Roos has been offered a 2 year position as Director of Coaching at the Pies to coincide with a new Buckley 2 year contract as senior coach.

2017-08-25T05:17:31+00:00

Paul D

Roar Rookie


Well, you are the expert on a predetermined view and never mind anything so trivial as the facts

2017-08-25T05:08:17+00:00

Big Daddy

Guest


Josh, Your not an Eddie hater. That's a very small club.

2017-08-25T04:29:55+00:00

spruce moose

Guest


A Mr Jarryd Hayne has essentially said that.

2017-08-25T04:27:49+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


They have an outcome in mind and tailor the "review" to achieve it.

2017-08-25T03:23:27+00:00

peter chrisp

Guest


As suggested Roos is not an option as far as we know he is not interested which is a good thing, as well all know Buckley definitely wants to stay & why wouldn't you and didn't he make a point during the year if we don't make the finals it's time to go? Or words to that effect? Judging by a number of recent comments it looks as though he will get another contract? What happens behind closed doors who knows but either way there are many issues that are not for public consumption and to me are they only speculation? If he is appointed say for 2 more years and our performances on the field are getting worse i am sure there are so many supporters of the club & non supporters will no doubt "I told you so" looks as though Ben Reid is sore & now we blood Kayle Kirby which is a great idea

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