Which forward line should the Giants take to the finals?

By Zac Standish / Roar Guru

GWS have been a mixed bag in 2017, as despite finishing in the top four for a second consecutive season the pre-season flag favourites underachieved in the home-and-away season.

However, this could soon be a distant memory as Leon Cameron’s men look to put their inconsistencies behind them and begin their second finals campaign with a qualifying final on Thursday against minor premiers Adelaide.

At their best the Giants are clearly the most talented side in the competition. Coming into the competition just five years ago it is incredible to see just how far this club has come with an excellent mixture of up and coming stars and mentoring veterans. However, despite all these strengths one thing has been significantly holding the Giants back in recent times, the mixture of players in their forward 50.

There is no denying GWS exhibit some of the best firepower in the competition with the likes of Jeremy Cameron, Toby Greene, Jonathan Patton, Devon Smith, Rory Lobb and Steve Johnson making up their forward line.

With a selection such as this it is hard to see many problems emerging, as many expected them to take the next step this season and overwhelm opposition defenders. This proved not to be the case, as after a strong start to the season gaping hole began to emerge in the Giants forward half.

The first of these is their mixture of talls. Boasting Cameron, Lobb and Patton down forward and Shane Mumford in the ruck, the Giants have found themselves to be a bit too top heavy this season. With the idea that will be able to dominate teams in the air, having these four players in the side at one time has proved to be a negative for GWS as they have been unable to apply the forward pressure needed to hold the ball in the attacking fifty.

This lack of pressure can be seen through their inability to tackle, ranking 13th in the competition in total tackles as well as being only 10th in total one percenters. In a game that is now dominated by retaining possession of the ball and locking the ball in your attacking half, it is clear that in order to seriously contend in September they need more of a presence once the ball hits the ground.

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Richmond is a great example of how successful a small pressure centric forward line can be in the modern, with Damian Hardwick mainly only playing the one tall in Jack Riewoldt along with a mosquito flight of desperate small forwards such as Daniel Rioli, Dan Butler, Jason Castagna and Shane Edwards. This mixture has made it really difficult for opposition teams to get the ball out of their defence as well as generate penetration off the half back line.

So which three talls should the Giants take to Adelaide on Thursday Night?

With the rain seeming like it will stay away from the Adelaide Oval, the temptation will definitely be their to play Lobb alongside Patton and Cameron. However, with the manner by which finals are played as well as the attacking penetration the Crows get out of their back half, Leon Cameron must swing the axe and drop Rory Lobb from the line-up in favour of a small such as Matt De Boer.

This will help the Giants immensely in trying to contain the Crows excellent ball movement as De Boer would be able to play a role on either Brodie Smith or Rory Laird as well as kick a goal if the opportunity arises.

The second forward conundrum facing the Giants leading into Thursday’s clash is the role of Steve Johnson. One of the best finals performers in recent history, Stevie J has always relished the big stage. However now in the twilight of his career the question must be asked, is he still good enough to positively contribute to the Giants as they push for a premiership.

Renowned for his knowledge of the game and ability to kick a goal when his sides needs him the most, it is safe to say that Johnson has lost a lot of the athletic attributes that made him so damaging in the past.

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Johnson’s declining physical stature can be seen through his recent performances, with his most recent game against Geelong a great example as the veteran only managed eight disposals two tackles and no scores.

With a number of younger players waiting in the wings many are calling for this to be the end of Stevie J. However, still being a new franchise I wouldn’t be flicking the bails off of Johnson’s career just yet as despite his deteriorating athletic ability he still has the X-Factor that could win the Giants a big finals.

He deserves one last chance on the big stage, and I believe that will come at the Adelaide Oval on Thursday Night. His past history in finals alone will make the Adelaide defenders sweat and will be a match-up worry for Adelaide coach Don Pyke. Along with his match winning ability he is also a great mentor for Toby Greene and will attract some attention of the budding star.

So, two days out from the First Qualifying Final, many question marks still hover over Leon Cameron as he looks to send the perfect team to Adelaide in hope of gaining a preliminary final birth.

My predicted GWS lineup
FB: A Corr P Davis N Haynes
HB: Z Williams A Tomlinson H Shaw
C: T Scully D Shiel L Whitfield
HF: J Hopper J Cameron B Deledio
FF: D Smith J Patton T Greene
FOLL: S Mumford C Ward J Kelly
INT: N Wilson S Coniglio S Johnson M De Boer

The Crowd Says:

2017-09-05T10:55:22+00:00

Raimond

Roar Guru


I think a Giants win is a forlorn hope anyway, so play Lobb & Johnson, and if they fail then drop them.

2017-09-05T08:56:22+00:00

SamBo

Guest


'At their best the Giants are clearly the most talented side in the competition'.... not sure this is factual, the Crows have averaged the highest score of any team all season. The only thing that statement can mean is that GWS clearly does not bring its best very often?

2017-09-05T06:41:20+00:00

Birdman

Guest


probably should have transitioned to a shorter fwd line during the later part of the season but prob. too late this close to finals. Would have considered dropping Lobb out of the 3 talls.

2017-09-05T04:58:21+00:00

Mickyo

Guest


GCS had a good list, when Buckley took over Collingwood it was a premiership list. Cameron is doing a great job coaching and keeping players happy in WS - half the battle

2017-09-05T04:55:50+00:00

Pedro The Fisherman

Roar Rookie


2017-09-05T04:52:22+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Pretty sure anyone could do a 'good job' with the list at GWS disposal. IMO they are under performing and a team that is less than a sum of their parts. This points to bad coaching. If you sent GWS out with no coach what-so-ever I am not sure they'd be much worse than they are now. I've no doubt that with a good coach GWS could be the all conquering side people keep pumping them up to be now.

2017-09-05T04:49:31+00:00

Mickyo

Guest


Obviously you need to temper one way running, but premiership style offensive football deflates a Ross Lyon style game, wait until lthe later stages of a game where a team is constantly looking inboard and running to see that forward run of the ball is premiership football.

2017-09-05T04:42:33+00:00

I ate pies

Guest


Thank you Rhys Palmer. You were the difference on that fateful night.

2017-09-05T04:41:37+00:00

I ate pies

Guest


Downhill skiers is the correct term.

2017-09-05T04:39:55+00:00

Mickyo

Guest


Cameron is doing a great job, with 2 or 3 good drafts coming out of southern NSW every year and this year one (Shipley) from WS itself GWS iwill be a perrennial powerhouse, his job is assured for years to come regardless of a flag ATM

2017-09-05T04:39:00+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


GWS can only win at home.

2017-09-05T04:34:01+00:00

Pedro The Fisherman

Roar Rookie


Agreed. Lobb will be difficult for Adelaide (and most sides) to match up on as they have quite a few medium sized/versatile defenders but no "extra" height.. Conversely, Lobb will need to be prepared to pick up whomever is on him as Adelaide gets a lot of their run from across Half-Back (Smith, Brown, Laird, Kelly/Lever/Talia). An interesting match awaits (and likely the closest match IMHO).

2017-09-05T04:23:28+00:00

Brian

Guest


12 months is too long ago when you've done nothing for ages. As I said GWS are good enough not to hope for miracles if they play their best 22 they can beat anyone

2017-09-05T04:06:45+00:00

Tom

Roar Rookie


I think that Sam Reid should also be considered. Before injury he shut Zorko down completely, than again I thought that he should have played instead of Rhys Palmer in the prelim against the dogs last year.

AUTHOR

2017-09-05T03:30:06+00:00

Zac Standish

Roar Guru


Yeah 100%, Giants need to focus more on two way running in the midfield, way too attacking

2017-09-05T01:34:25+00:00

mickyo

Guest


50% chance of rain, too many tall forwards on a greasy deck sees you behind the 8ball. However if dry someone like Lobb is extremely underrated IMO.

2017-09-05T01:22:44+00:00

Mattyb

Guest


Spot on Brian,I've been commenting that GWS are to tall up forward for most of the year. There the exact ins and outs I'd make for sure.

2017-09-05T01:17:56+00:00

CME

Guest


Good article. It's been pretty clear all year the number of talls has been a double-edged sword for them and if you heed the lessons of last year's grand finalists and the general shift in the sport, they are behind the times. Lobb or Mumford have to go. But Leon Cameron has made a rod for his own back by not sorting this out sooner when it's been a problem for most of the year - he just dropped a decent performer in De Boer and now brings him back in with confidence shot?

AUTHOR

2017-09-05T01:06:36+00:00

Zac Standish

Roar Guru


I think Stevie J deserves one last chance, as we saw in last years Qualifying Final he can be a serious game changer for the Giants

2017-09-05T01:04:16+00:00

anon

Roar Pro


As always, a "dysfunctional" forward line is as much or more about a dysfunctional midfield or style of play than anything else. The Giants midfield is one-dimensional and has no plan B. If you can stop them moving the ball quickly on the outside their gameplan quickly resembles that of Ross Lyon's Dockers. They wilt under pressure. Tackle hard, make them accountable and they hate it. I put this completely on the shoulders of Leon Cameron. I think the Giants should have waited to have seen how this finals series would play out before needlessly extending Leon Cameron's contract.

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