Five talking points from GWS Giants vs West Coast Eagles first semi-final

By Josh / Expert

The GWS Giants are through to a preliminary final after a comfortable win over West Coast on Saturday night. Here’s my five talking points from the match.

No more finals blowouts, please
Last week’s Port Adelaide vs West Coast game was a thriller, but it’s fair to say that all the finals we’ve seen in the time since have been a bit uncompetitive.

Geelong vs Richmond was a gripping contest if not particularly thrilling, and Geelong vs Sydney, while a textbook blowout, was at least a notable upset.

The other three matches so far have been uninspiring big-margin victories to the favoured side. Not a one has come within six goals.

This hardly seems like a fitting finals series for what was dubbed the most even season of all time.

Personally, I hope we’re just building up some good excitement-karma for an epic grand final.

Deledio vs Richmond
Who would have thought when Brett Deledio was traded from Richmond to the Giants at the end of last year that it would be the Tigers, not Deledio, who first scored a finals win?

Who would have thought that the respective finals wins of both teams would lead to them being pitted against each other in a preliminary final?

And who would have thought that Deledio would battle with injury during the season just long enough for that preliminary final to be his 250th career game?

Footy really can be kind to us fans sometimes.

(Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Media/Getty Images)

Stevie J show hits peak form
It felt more like the thing you’ll see in an EJ Whitten Legends game than a genuine AFL-level performance.

A week after being dropped from the side, Steve Johnson came back in and booted six goals, four of them in the third quarter, to more than confirm his spot in the side for next week’s preliminary final.

Like the Giants’ performance in general, it’d be getting a bit overly excited to say that this was indicative of that much of an improvement since last week.

The opposition was of a vastly different calibre and all things considered Johnson would have been lucky to hit the board if he played at Adelaide Oval.

It’s telling that his goals came in the second half, when the game was already dead.

Can he have that kind of impact against Richmond next week? You never write off a champion, but if the Tigers bring the suffocating pressure they did against Geelong, it seems very unlikely.

(Photo by Cameron Spencer/Getty Images)

New Eagle era on the way
We saw three remarkable players of the modern era walk off the field for the last time on Saturday night in Sam Mitchell, Matt Priddis and Drew Petrie.

All of them have contributed something special to the game over the past decade or so, and all will be respected – perhaps more by their original clubs than West Coast in the case of Mitchell and Petrie – for a long time to come.

While players who’ve been there only one year can hardly be considered the fabric of the club, it’s no doubt that the times they are a changing at West Coast, and I’d be surprised if these are the only three to have played their last AFL game on Saturday.

Mark LeCras and Sharrod Wellingham are both out of contract from last night’s side and you’d have the question the wisdom of re-signing them for 2018 and beyond at this point.

Of course, we’ll take more about all that tomorrow when I review West Coast’s list – for now, a hand to three heroes.

(Photo by Michael Willson/AFL Media/Getty Images)

Small Giants better than tall?
You’d be reading far too much into limited results to say that having a smaller side on the park last night was the difference between devastating loss last week and comfortable victory this time around.

However, there has generally been a concern throughout the year that the Giants were running a bit too tall, particularly in the forward line, and having one less there this week did seem to help.

With Shane Mumford out Rory Lobb went into the ruck and acquitted himself well there. He looks like the longterm successor to Mumford in that role.

Ideally you would still have Jeremy Cameron available and playing in the side, and in that case Harrison Himmelberg would probably miss out.

The Giants will be forced by necessity to play a small side again next week, which is the logical way to play against a team like Richmond anyway.

It’ll be interesting to see if it leads to a genuine change of philosophy in 2018.

The Crowd Says:

2017-09-18T10:04:05+00:00

BigAl

Guest


My sentiments exactly ttf - there's a reason he has announced his retirement. It would be the height of small club lack of sophistication if GWS select and expect him to be in anyway effective against the fired up tiges at the G !

2017-09-18T04:56:05+00:00

JD

Guest


They do seem to play spotless very well. A big home ground advantage.

2017-09-18T01:16:30+00:00

truetigerfan

Guest


Love Stevie J but really . . . peak form? From my point of view he kicked 6 uncontested, junk time goals. That won't happen this week!

2017-09-17T22:16:18+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Guest


Deledio sneaks forward from half back in the dying seconds to kick a clutch goal and deny Richmond a Grand Final. I'd like to see that.

2017-09-17T21:23:08+00:00

Yowzers

Roar Rookie


That's a rough comment if you know your history chief

2017-09-17T14:15:13+00:00

Don Freo

Guest


Patton was fantastic.

2017-09-17T12:55:41+00:00

Dalgety Carrington

Roar Guru


There's every chance that we'll see some close games next week. Might also see some 2017 patented massive-momentum-swings in full play too.

2017-09-17T10:51:48+00:00

I ate pies

Guest


That comment would be relevant if people actually turned up to the games.

2017-09-17T10:14:59+00:00

Fair Weather

Guest


Small West Sydney crowd and small Sydney metro ratings. No one said this would work in a few years. It might take generations. It is like a Roman occupation of a Barbarian tribe. They'll get it one day, but gee it is like feeding caviar to a bunch of sows at the moment.

2017-09-17T09:17:50+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


The Suns are far more deserving of this type of broadside. Sydney is just too huge to only have one team. That being said the presence should be closer to Penrith than Potts Point but at least they're there

2017-09-17T09:15:27+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


http://www.afl.com.au/tickets/grandfinal/eligibility In answer to guidelines (a), (b) and (c) the AFL proposes that tickets to the 2017 AFL Grand Final be allocated in approximately the following manner: Competing Club Members 16,000 - 35,000 GWS have 20,000 members, so I guess they'll negotiate on the details and then it will be a windfall for whichever fans of the club they're playing. Assuming GWS make it, of course. If Richmond make it I imagine those 35,000 tickets will be more valuable then anything Willy Wonka ever issued. The important things is that those tickets are for fans and either way they get to watch footy no matter which guernsey they're wearing

2017-09-17T09:01:23+00:00

StrummerJones

Guest


They need to put a rocket up Patton. How many times did he kick to a WCE player? The bloke also needs to use his body more and start destroying things in his path. if he can fire next week, they might just win it.

2017-09-17T08:59:04+00:00

StrummerJones

Guest


You can get Richmond at $1.60 at Ladbrokes. Have you put the house on it? Richmond should win, but a lot of people getting ahead of themselves and basing a Richmond certainty on just one game. The GWS performance in Adelaide was largely a result of poor wet weather skills, whilst Adelaide are probably the best in the business in the wet.

2017-09-17T08:54:04+00:00

jaybuoy

Guest


De Boer was Freos best player in their GF loss..

2017-09-17T06:50:41+00:00

David C

Guest


One of Lids, SJ or Smith probably won't get up anyway.

2017-09-17T05:01:12+00:00

steveng

Roar Rookie


GWS wont beat Richmond in a million years, full stop!!! And I'm a Sydney side fan. Beating WCE was a formality and doesn't reflect anything.

2017-09-17T04:52:30+00:00

I ate pies

Guest


That's the official figures too Brian. The actual crowd was probably more like 12,000. This is easily the biggest talking point from a macro perspective. The GWS experiment is clearly not working. People in western Sydney just don't care about footy. Imagine if every other team could take 2 players from GWS list; 34 players from the GWS list that would likely be starting players at other clubs would strengthen the standard of competition for sure.

2017-09-17T04:48:42+00:00

Mattician6x6

Guest


I agree and he is also the giants only pressure fwd which is a necessity for balance.

2017-09-17T04:30:51+00:00

Ditto

Guest


I thought De Boer was one of the few players that stood up against Adelaide and would pick him on that basis alone.

2017-09-17T02:08:10+00:00

justif01

Roar Rookie


GWS are a chance to beat Richmond if only for having played the extra week. The only change I would make to their 22 is to bring in Devon Smith and drop De Boer. Smith has had 20 plus possessions in 9 games this year and has kicked 2 and 3 goals in a few of them so he might give GWS another weapon against the Richmond smalls.

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