What a fine old mess it was: Lineout tales from the bad old days

By Harry Jones / Expert

We agonise over even one stolen lineout on our team’s throws. Post-mortems are conducted when that number is three. Hookers are deemed a liability, jumpers’ timing is scrutinised, and the caller is dropped.

Kiwi coaches insist on having two loosies be options at lineout time. Saffa teams often have three jumpers over two metres tall, with another lifter nearly two metres, so that a giraffe is being lifted by two industrial cranes, and the hooker has to work out geometrical forces factoring in the curvature of the Earth.

It’s all so technical and precise.

At top levels, 85 per cent is a sort of baseline for keeping possession on throw-in. But in the 1980s, even in Test matches, it was more of a 60-40 proposition, and in schoolboy rugby in the Western Cape, even at Craven Week, it was a 50-50 crapshoot.

In 1999, the legislators of rugby morality memorialised a practice long permitted tacitly or merely expertly hidden: lifting.

For about two decades, the accepted ethic was ‘you can’t lift them higher than they jumped, but you can keep them at that height’.

Some people said it was the Saffas who lifted more, and others said it was the Kiwis, but when I played in the ’80s in South Africa, we lifted (we also punched, elbowed, kneed, undercut, jumped across, held down, and headbutted, but that’s just semantics).

Lineouts were a bloody mess the world over.

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There were a lot of them, too. Because you could kick to touch on the full from anywhere, so rugby football was very footy.

The blindside winger or the hooker threw the ball in; and those often wobbly, one-handed tosses seemed like wishful prayers – provisions thrown into a pit of refugees without a system, a mob of rabid dogs baying over meat.

First of all, we all stood on top of each other. The two lines were shoulder to shoulder. No referee could ever monitor 14 separate fistfights. The trick was to catch your opponent (who had received the laughably easy-to-decipher codes, but really were just ‘throw to the tallest guy who can jump’) with an elbow just as he was springing off the ground. Just on top of the shoulder; as you were pretending to jump.

The throw was always skew. It wasn’t even close to being straight.

Some throwers wound up like javelin tossers. Some rocked back and forth and threw a googlie.

There were few clean catches in the middle of the melee. If you had a good jumper at No.8, you could see some athletic grabs and quick moves to the backline. But mostly it was slap-back ball and a holy nightmare for the wee scrumhalf.

I should mention the ball – the only ball – was heavy. Lineouts deep in the game could sprain your wrist.

So it was like water polo down low, with shorts pulled and knees in thighs, and jerseys pulled down; and up high it was wild, waving arms with so many knock-ons, the refs just let it go.

Lineouts were extremely unattactive.

Not so the old scrum, which had a strange, wobbly beauty.

Lineouts were nasty and amateurish and gave backlines terrible ball; winning the ball could often be a negative outcome, leading to dribble-kicking charges and tries conceded.

An American expatriate who landed at our school for two years and played wing because that’s the easiest position in rugby, could NFL a lineout throw almost from wing to wing; so that was an entertaining relief.

I saw Morne du Plessis so the same from a lineout ball he caught; he stopped, pivoted, and rifled a perfect Tom Brady-like strike to a Western Province wing.

But most throwers were inept. And the jumpers were just guessing and enduring foul play. And mauls were so confusing, nobody bothered with them as scoring plays, at least from a lineout.

Lifted lineouts are a big improvement, but too few teams get jumpers in the air, to contest. I noticed one season, in Super Rugby, that Eben Etzebeth and Pieter-Steph du Toit each had more lineout steals than the entire Australian conference. I think. Don’t look it up; but it was close.

The All Blacks conserve their energy in contesting lineouts for moments and matches that matter.

The good old days in lineouts are right now; the old old days were bad.

The Crowd Says:

2017-11-04T02:59:57+00:00

Buk

Guest


Yeah absolute classic Lion

2017-11-03T03:19:45+00:00

Charging Rhino

Roar Guru


U11's. 8am. About 3-5 degrees Celsius in the Natal Midlands middle of winter (i.e.1.30 mins inland from Durbs, much colder!). Frost all over the very hard frozen ground. The leather ball they choose was super heavy, had been polished and pumped up like a low profile tyre and the wet from the frost had soaked in making it heavier. Loose maul. I break away to charge down the opposition flyhallf's kick (who in High school became a mate). Jumped up.... BANG straight into my nose!! Blood everywhere I ran off the field and ran ice cold water over it from the field tap while getting some sympathy from my older slightly sister and her friend ;-) .... Stopped bleeding in about 30 seconds. Ran back on to win the game :-) Unfortunately at 11 years old I think I was still a bit too young for my 13 year old sister's friend....

2017-11-02T08:09:11+00:00

Nicholas Bishop

Expert


Ahh, the sky-hook... maybe they'd been watching too much Kareem in the NBA :)

2017-11-02T06:09:12+00:00

bigbaz

Roar Guru


Obviously an old line-out thrower.

AUTHOR

2017-11-02T04:38:29+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Yes!!!! And on a cold day, in the FIRST LO Jeeeez

2017-11-02T00:03:23+00:00

WQ

Guest


Certainly did although jumping at number 2 those days was more about the timing and speed of the jump than the dizzy heights you could leap. Having said that I can remember spending plenty of time practicing my leap with a piece of chalk in my hand trying to improve the height of the mark I could make on the wall I was jumping against!

2017-11-01T23:38:05+00:00

Wal

Roar Guru


You missed the time old stomping on the opposing jumpers foot. And not with the namby-pamby moulded soles in use today. But the old 30mm metal studs needed to navigate the mud pool we played in in Chch week in week out. Mid Week my feet often would look like a leopard from a Dr Suess cartoon with all sorts of weird yellow and purple dots.

2017-11-01T19:24:24+00:00

Sherry

Guest


Harry - I meant to write you were among the top two but a zero slipped in there. Sorry.

AUTHOR

2017-11-01T14:11:41+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


You confuse me in the best possible way

2017-11-01T13:46:21+00:00

Johnno

Guest


Lifting in line-outs are a cleaner contest for possession and reward guys with strong high jump like jumping ability and arial ability, I wish it was brought back as it's more a contest for possession and gives the opponents a chance to compete more..

2017-11-01T09:53:50+00:00

Onside

Guest


thanks jeznez

2017-11-01T09:38:36+00:00

Peter

Guest


Thanks, Harry. I had gathered that a bit of vaguely-related maundering is permissible here!

2017-11-01T08:52:16+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Opposition bench players. Still standard in park footy for the two sides to provide a touch judge each. The trick is always to get on the side the team and crowd are sat on. Is a lonely task if you are on your own on the far touch line.

2017-11-01T08:49:48+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Mark McBain was the last guy I saw throwing the ball in off a sky-hook. Was still doing it for the Reds until 1991.

2017-11-01T08:17:12+00:00

Cuw

Guest


i am not sure if they were the first team , but that it was England under Sir Clive who started the cling-jersey. it was Jason Robinson who was credited with the idea of a shirt that the opponent cannot grab , becoz it if rather than hang loose. also IMO the best advert for the cling jersey was perhaps at the world cup in 2011 (maybe it was some other match?) , when the NZ lady doctor helped SBW to get into one, in the middle of the park. that had the internet burning :)

2017-11-01T07:59:01+00:00

Onside

Guest


OK , whats , oppo reserves mean ? yeah I know ex Victorian.

AUTHOR

2017-11-01T07:49:37+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Touch refs in the 80s were oppo reserves ...

AUTHOR

2017-11-01T07:48:52+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Good point Really helped to tackle, too

AUTHOR

2017-11-01T07:47:59+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


I'll try to find video of Gert Muller

AUTHOR

2017-11-01T07:46:54+00:00

Harry Jones

Expert


Yes, the googlie! Like a drunken old county cricketer trying his spinner. Jeez, it was sloppy. LOs were really free-for-alls. Scrums were far calmer...

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