Pride and petulance: Chris Scott's critique of the 2017 Richmond flag

By Alphingtonian / Roar Pro

Some of the more attentive footy supporters may be aware of a strange little conversation that occurred on the Monday night following Richmond’s awesome display of tactical dominance over Adelaide at the MCG on grand final day, 2017.

With speed, skill, toughness, and flair, the Tigers powered to the flag – but some weren’t impressed, especially one Chris Scott.

When asked to comment on Richmond’s win by Mark Robinson, on a well-known footy show, he first admitted his envy (which, to be fair, his coach co-panelist Allan Richardson echoed), then felt compelled to give a lecture on the defensive nature of the win.

Scott inferred the win was dour and boring, citing the 2005-06 Sydney vs West Coast grand finals as examples of great contests but poor spectacles.

So if Scott didn’t like the spectacle, one would have to presume his own team would’ve played the game as it should be played last year?

Seeing as finals are the most important and most watched games, and Scott’s assertion that the Swans-Eagles grand finals were boring, let’s start there.

The Tigers played three finals in 2017, as did Geelong – in two of Richmond’s three finals they scored over 100 points, while the Cats couldn’t crack the ton, but did limp to their lowest finals score since 1914, in the quarter-final against Richmond, scoring just five goals.

If one takes the liberty to say most fans enjoy open, free-flowing games over stoppage-ridden ones, then Richmond play a more attractive style of footy, with 42 fewer stoppages in 2017 than Geelong. That’s nearly a game’s worth.

The Tigers also had more bounces and far more metres gained – a clear sign of their running ability – than Geelong, with significantly more rebound 50s, marks inside 50, and a higher percentage.

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It’s clear one team was playing defensive footy, and it wasn’t the premiers.

In what became a torrid slog down at Simmonds Stadium, Richmond tried all day to run-and-gun and break open the stoppage and zone clamps put on by Scott at the narrowest of AFL grounds, but couldn’t make the game the spectacle it ought to have been.

The Round 21 clash sums up the hypocrisy of Scott’s statement. Richmond went to Geelong to play running footy – in their previous month, they had only scored under 90 points once, whereas the Cats had scored more than 90 only once.

When you support a team, you are compelled to watch them play every week – if nothing more than to see how they go. It doesn’t mean you enjoy the style of football they play, even if you’re happy with the result.

As a Cats fan, I enjoyed watching Richmond’s play more than Geelong’s in 2017. The Tigers had the high-flying athletic exploits of Jack Riewoldt up forward, contrasting with the brute strength and wrestling of Tom Hawkins.

They had speed all over the park and a bold tactical gameplan that revolutionised footy for the better, maximising the space of the MCG to produce electric passages of play.

Geelong had a stoppage-based, defensive gameplan built around trying to shut down space and make the ground smaller, while moving it forward in a measured, safe way.

In the quarters, these two styles clashed and the team that wanted to win by using space and speed, rather than simply clamping down the game with repetitive stoppages, won. It was a win for football and the spectacle of the game.

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One coach may have had a ghost of a point in criticising the premiers in 2017, but it wasn’t Scott.

Don Pyke’s Crows played blistering, attacking footy for much of last season, only to be overwhelmed on grand final day. Pyke however showed his class and humility in defeat, as Damien Hardwick did in victory.

Don’t get me wrong, Scott is usually a smooth mover in the footy media and the many public events he has to attend. In fact, he’s probably the best spin doctor in the coaching business. It’s perhaps why his comments about Richmond weren’t properly scrutinised. Indeed, if the tables were turned, could you imagine the outcry if Hardwick dared criticise Geelong’s style of play after a grand final win?

Scott has a right to his opinion. Maybe to him, the game looks better saturated with stoppages and where strength in the contest, height, and overall physical dominance rule the day. I prefer watching quick exciting teams that use pressure to win the ball and then break like hellfire.

Ahead of the 2018 season, many teams seem to be heading down the Richmond route of ‘speed kills’, while teams like Geelong and Adelaide will persist with positional, stoppage-based footy and height up forward.

One thing’s for sure: Chris Scott has more pressure on him than ever before, with many pundits already making Geelong their premiership favourite.

The Crowd Says:

2018-11-19T07:50:53+00:00

Scotty Buchanan

Guest


bahahaha Shut up Sooky Snotty. Richmond Tigers won the 2017 flag because they were the best that year. Just like the Sea Gulls here in WA this year.

AUTHOR

2018-02-11T01:44:17+00:00

Alphingtonian

Roar Pro


Really Cat? You should've learnt by now not to throw stones in glass houses. Also give me one example of a cheap swipe I've done on here?

2018-02-09T22:45:32+00:00

Steve009

Roar Rookie


But an actual home ground, with home ground advantages, unlike the shared system of other Victorian teams. And unlike the interstate teams with a home ground advantage the cats do get to play at the MCG, you would think better preparing them finals. Not that their recent poor finals record reflects that advantage. Personally I think if the cats are the higher finishing team they should have the choice to play that finals game at skilled stadium.

AUTHOR

2018-02-09T14:56:54+00:00

Alphingtonian

Roar Pro


Great comment HTH. Unfortunately most Geelong supporters don't want to face reality.

AUTHOR

2018-02-09T13:36:04+00:00

Alphingtonian

Roar Pro


Scott hasn't constructed anything but a B grade finals team on the brink of a demographic cliff. We need a full rebuild circa early 2000s with Bomber Thompson if we're a chance to win a flag again. My personal choice would be Joel Corey as coach with Bomber as DOC.

2018-02-09T07:24:02+00:00

Wayne Gordes

Guest


As long as your happy with a whinging sook for a coach who's only grand final win was with an inherited team

AUTHOR

2018-02-09T06:57:58+00:00

Alphingtonian

Roar Pro


Nah. Stewed over it at the time for about 5 mins but was just lazy in writing the piece.

2018-02-09T06:26:57+00:00

russel

Guest


= because the team you wanted to win didnt win, so it was boring ye

2018-02-09T06:21:14+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


When your wordpress site advertises with the following tagline "I love my AFL especially panning the direction of my team the Geelong Football Club under Brian Cook and Chris Scott. " Well, it's hard for us not to be sceptical. There is so much apprehended bias I don't think you can assess Scott or Geelong fairly. A better article would be to outline what you'd differently - and don't even mention Scott, imagine Chris Scott gets hit by a bus tomorrow, who do you recruit to replace him and what sort of football are you looking to play going forward Anyone can urinate on a monument. Not everyone can construct one.

2018-02-09T05:44:42+00:00

TigerBren

Guest


We have long memories at Tiger land

AUTHOR

2018-02-09T05:36:02+00:00

Alphingtonian

Roar Pro


I suggest you read this far more thorough version of the article as it was cut in to fairly severely by the subeditor on here. https://controlledanarchy.wordpress.com/2018/02/05/pride-and-petulance-chris-scotts-critique-of-the-2017-richmond-flag/ It may clarify my point in a much better way than the highly edited article above did.

2018-02-08T12:51:24+00:00

TomC

Roar Guru


Alph, you are just way off base here.

2018-02-08T11:04:01+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


You’d know all about cheap swipes and being petulant ...

AUTHOR

2018-02-08T10:29:54+00:00

Alphingtonian

Roar Pro


Rubbish! He was obviously taking a swipe at Richmond's pressure driven gamestyle comparing the 2017 GF with the 2005/6 GF. It was a petulant ill thought out comment by a clearly envious man about the 2017 Premiers.

2018-02-08T09:36:08+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


And then went onto say they were great games of football in isolation, but you wouldn't want every game to look like that. That's the part you omitted, where he justified the reference. The way it was written it sounded like he was just having a swipe for the sake of it. I thought it was a reasonable comment, I mean if every game was 54-58 and played like 2005 it would be an awful slog to watch 23 weeks of it. He's just saying he hopes clubs don't go too negative, which I think isn't a bad attitude from a coach, even if others would say he doesn't always uphold it himself.

AUTHOR

2018-02-08T08:30:07+00:00

Alphingtonian

Roar Pro


Chris Scott talking about the 2017 Grand Final on the post GF episode of AFL 360 – ‘What did you guys think of the spectacle? There has been some criticism about the standard of the game.’ ‘But it’s interesting in terms of the game overall. So often we go back and say the West Coast Sydney Grand Finals -the two of them – were terrible games of football really, really dour affairs, but great Grand Final really gripping and I think we all acknowledge that, but if you said every game was going to be like that then I think everybody would acknowledge we’ve got a problem. So it’s a bit of a trap to fall in to looking at the GF and saying no, no we don’t need to make any changes.’ This is what I said in the article 'then felt compelled to give a lecture on the defensive nature of the win. Scott inferred the win was dour and boring, citing the 2005-06 Sydney vs West Coast grand finals as examples of great contests but poor spectacles.' I think that's a fair summation of what he said - You obviously disagree.

2018-02-08T08:01:32+00:00

Art Vandelay

Guest


Yeah, probably. Time flies....

2018-02-08T06:56:15+00:00

DB

Guest


Stokes you mean

2018-02-08T06:48:33+00:00

Art Vandelay

Guest


Please ignore that. Duplicated post from earlier.

2018-02-08T06:38:27+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


He last played for Geelong in 2002.

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