A look at the most dominant eras in VFL/AFL history

By Paul Martin / Roar Rookie

A fond memory as a young boy in the mid-1980s when staying over at my nanna and pop’s house was looking through the annual Miller’s Guide sporting publications that my pop had accumulated over the years.

Although they were focussed on horse racing, these thick paperback guides were a treasure trove of sporting records from around the world.

I loved looking down the list of VFL – as it was still known in the 1980s – premiers and runners-up since 1897. Yes, the first VFL season was way back in 1897. The trusty Miller’s Guide revealed that Essendon won that first one. I would continue down the list.

“Collingwood won four flags in a row from 1927 to 1930!” I remember exclaiming to Pop one time as he was studying the form guide for the next day’s races at Flemington. “Jock McHale was coach,” he replied, “No other club has ever done it”.

That record still stands in 2018. Four premierships in a row from 1927 to 1930. What’s more, Collingwood finished runners-up in the grand finals of 1925 and 1926, which means the streak also included six consecutive grand final appearances. So Jock McHale’s men lost two and then won the next four.

Legendary stuff. But is it enough to claim the title of the best era in VFL/AFL history? Let’s find out.

What length of time constitutes an era?

The minimum is five years
One of the most difficult aspects of this ranking process was deciding the length of time that constitutes a true dynasty or reign of dominance.

As I began the research involved in getting a clearer picture, one thing soon became apparent: the length of any truly successfully sustained era couldn’t be less than five years in duration.

As you’ll see in the table below, two clubs boast eras that achieved seven consecutive grand final appearances. Two others made the grand final six times in a row. Yet another two clubs have made the grand final five times in succession. That means we have six separate occurrences of a club reaching the grand final at least five times in a row. So five years had to be the minimum length of an era.

The maximum is eight years
At the other end of the scale we also need to have a cut-off point. Some may even argue an ‘era’ can perhaps only be regarded as a true era while under the guidance of the one coach.

Of the 12 eras I ranked only three clubs had more than one coach at the helm during the period, which is quite fitting, but the main deciding factor was changes to playing personnel. If you go longer than eight years, the ‘core’ group of players tends to change too dramatically to constitute a recognizable era.

How the ranking works

Total premierships won in the period simply had to be the number one ranking method. Coaches, players and supporters want to win premierships – that is the goal year in, year out.

But what about when two clubs won the same number of premierships in the designated era? Well, the only thing harder than winning a premiership is winning two in a row, then three in a row and so on. So the eras are ranked by total premierships first, then by consecutive premierships if applicable.

To see the full size table, click on the image.

As you can see, there are some amazingly successful eras in this list. What’s more, it was only after I had settled on this top 12 that I realised every single decade of the game’s 120-year history is included. What a testament to this great competition. Below is a summary of the top three.

The teams

1. Melbourne – 1954 to 1960, coached by Norm Smith
This was a run of seven consecutive grand finals, including five premierships comprising a triple and a double. Astonishing. Thus this Norm Smith-coached Melbourne of 1954 to 1960 takes the number one position as the best era in VFL/AFL history.

Besides being the only side to win five premierships in an era, if you have a look at the stats when playing at either home or away, we see that Norm Smith’s boys, captained by the legendary Ron Barassi, had a remarkable home win rate of 91 per cent with a points percentage of 157.8 per cent. In fact they lost only six games at home in seven seasons.

The MCG was their fortress, their colosseum. They owned it. And, mind you, this was done in an era without playing against travelling non-Victorian sides – they never even had a home state advantage yet still won 91 per cent of home games. Remarkable.

Melbourne is also one of only two clubs, along with Hawthorn, to make this list twice. When you consider Norm Smith was captain during the other great Demons era of 1937 to 1941, which also featured a ‘three-peat’, it really is no wonder that the award for the best player in the grand final is titled the Norm Smith medal.

2. Collingwood – 1927 to 1930, coached by Jock McHale
I’m guessing many people, especially Collingwood supporters, might argue that being the only side to have managed to win four premierships in a row warrants the number one ranking position.

Well, while four in a row is definitely the best streak in VFL/AFL history, I felt Melbourne’s effort of winning five premierships in seven years, including a triple and then a double, was superior.

But don’t get me wrong, this Collingwood effort was more than just a streak of course. It was kind of an era within an era given it was the pinnacle period of Jock McHale’s staggering 38-year coaching stint at Victoria Park.

As can be seen in the table, this golden run featured six consecutive grand final appearances, having been beaten in the grand finals of 1925 and 1926 before going on to score the ‘quadrella’.

The Magpies’ overall win percentage of 81 per cent from their 122 games is also the second best in the entire list, bettered only by Geelong of 2007 to 2011.

Even though these ratings are purely based on statistics, this effort by Collingwood was also a great example of perseverance. Many a group of men in woeful economic times may have never got over the anguish of losing consecutive grand finals in 1925 and 1926. Quite the contrary in this case: they went on to win the next four in a row!

Whether you barracked for Collingwood or not, this was an extraordinary feat that brought inspiration and hope to a downtrodden city during the Great Depression.

3. Hawthorn – 1983 to 1989, coached by Allan Jeans
Oh, they were indeed a happy team at Hawthorn in the 1980s! Although I have them at number three, the mighty Hawthorn line-ups of 1983 to 1989 may well be the most universally regarded ‘best ever’ in history.

You just hear so much about them, and it’s not difficult to see why. Four premierships in seven years and one of only two eras that featured seven consecutive grand finals.

They possessed players of all-time greatness from one end of the field to the other. Could they have been number one? Well, losing to Essendon twice in a row in 1984 and 1985 conjures up questions of what might have been. The Dons sure did extract revenge and then some on the Hawks after going down to them in 1983.

Still, the Hawks bounced back in 1986 to beat Carlton, who in turn, however, extracted some revenge of their own on the Hawks in 1987.

So after finishing runners-up three times already by 1987 it may have appeared the Hawks’ quest to go back-to-back was shot. But this outfit went on to win the flags of 1988 and 1989 against Melbourne and Geelong respectively. The grand final of 1989, in which the Hawks prevailed by six points, is still regarded as one of the most bitterly fought and highest quality grand finals ever contested.

After finishing fifth in 1990 Hawthorn won yet another flag in 1991. This was the only instance when I was tempted to make an exception to the eight-year era limit. Extending their era to 1991 would have made it five premierships from nine years – though that still wouldn’t have been superior to Melbourne’s five from seven.

Adding to my decision was the fact that after 1990 Allan Jeans had permanently handed over the reins to Alan Joyce, who had stood in as caretaker coach during Jeans’s illness in 1988. That further signified the end of an era.

Honourable mentions

There are many more truly epic eras in the list which deserve mentioning, but I shall stick to the ones I have personally witnessed live.

Brisbane – 1999 to 2004, coached by Leigh Matthews
The Brisbane Lions were almost unbeatable when it mattered most. Although they came in at eighth, I would dare suggest that at their very best they were in fact the very best the league has seen.

Along with their renowned hardness and fearlessness, this was an outfit that included three Brownlow medalists in their midfield – Michael Voss, Jason Akermanis, Simon Black – plus Nigel Lappin, who could have easily won one himself. Jonathan Brown, Alistair Lynch, Justin Leppitsch, the Scott twins – the list of greats goes on.

A lot of pundits rate Kevin Sheedy’s Essendon side of 2000 as the best-ever playing group. Sure, they lost only one game in that premiership year, but what many seem to forget is that virtually the same Essendon line-up was soundly beaten by Brisbane the following year in 2001.

Essendon were unable to go back-to-back, but these Lions were just getting started, and they won three in a row from 2001 to 2003. Unfortunately for Brisbane, however, their shot at unarguable immortality was thwarted by a brilliant Port Adelaide in the 2004 grand final.

Geelong – 2007 to 2011, coached by Mark Thompson and Chris Scott; and
Hawthorn – 2008 to 2015, coached by Alastair Clarkson
Geelong have the stats, but the Hawks have the results.

These happen to be the two most recent and overlapping eras on the list. Alastair Clarkson’s Hawthorn of 2008 to 2015 and Geelong of 2007 to 2011 coached by Mark Thompson and Chris Scott are the rivals of modern times.

Let’s start with Geelong. If you look at the stats table, they are top or equal top in every single match stat – winning percentage of games for overall, home, and away et cetera. The same goes with the all-important points percentage.

This stat-topping Geelong unit had a plethora of greats, including Gary Ablett Jr, Joel Selwood, Jimmy Bartel, Steve Johnson and many more. There is no doubt they regularly fielded some of the best line-ups in AFL history.

Mystery still surrounds the circumstances leading to coach Mark Thompson‘s resignation at the end of the 2010 season after finishing third. Had his heart been in it that year? Would they have won it otherwise? Who knows, but Chris Scott was certainly lucky to inherit such an accomplished playing group whom he took to a premiership during his first year as coach in 2011. But, alas, after 2011 there were no more grand final berths.

Although no other club matches Geelong’s overall statistical dominance across five seasons, they are ranked 11th because this ranking system puts weight on total premierships and then consecutive premierships. Geelong won ‘only’ three premierships and didn’t manage to go back-to-back. In fact they are the only team to win three or more premierships in an era without winning any in succession.

(Paul Coster/Wikimedia Commons)

Unfortunately for them it all comes down to the 2008 grand final loss to Hawthorn. Mention this grand final to any avid Geelong supporter and the pain will be evident on their face. If they had won this grand final, their era would’ve yielded four premierships instead of three and would’ve also most likely included a ‘three-peat’ instead of no consecutive premierships at all. Ouch.

So did they blow it? I don’t think so.

The Hawks had a freakishly talented side in 2008. After smashing Port Adelaide by a record margin in the 2007 grand final Geelong were expected to go back-to-back in 2008. In the grand final the bookies had installed them firm favourites against the younger Hawks, who seemed to have come from nowhere in recent years to suddenly find themselves in the big dance.

How could these young upstarts possibly bother the all-conquering Cats? One word: x-Factor.

X-factor is very hard to define. I’d say it has something to do with performing almost impossible feats when it matters most. This Hawks 2008 line-up had it in spades. They were younger, but not too much younger.

They still had plenty of senior players around, though, with the likes of their spiritual leader and Brownlow medalist Shane Crawford and the powerfully versatile key position player Trent Croad. Sadly, though maybe fittingly, for both of these club stalwarts the 2008 grand final would be their last game.

At the other end of the spectrum the Hawks had the amazingly talented Cyril Rioli playing his first season. Speaking of x-factor, they had a mercurial medium-sized forward with a penchant for imaginary shotguns by the name of Mark Williams on the list. He kicked a game-high three goals without even firing an imaginary shot – his shotgun celebration had been banned earlier in the season by Alastair Clarkson.

Then you had Stuart Dew, an experienced recruit whose awe-inspiring third quarter purple patch was one for the ages. There’s that x-factor again.

When you also take into account that Coleman medalist Lance Franklin, Jarryd Roughhead, Luke Hodge, Sam Mitchell, Jordan Lewis, Grant Birchall, Campbell Brown and Brad Sewell had just entered their prime, the level of talent starts to look frightening.

Geelong didn’t blow it in the 2008 grand final; they were simply beaten by a better side – a side whose same core group of players, although faltering in missing the finals in 2009, would ultimately go on to reach four more grand finals and win three more premierships in succession.

That’s why Alastair Clarkson’s men are ranked as high as third on the all-time list of the great AFL eras.

So there you have it. I chose not to go into the details surrounding all 12 eras on the list, but I am satisfied with my ranking method, which was to sort by total premierships won first, then by premierships won in succession.

Any feedback is welcome – please leave a comment!

The Crowd Says:

2019-07-14T07:35:52+00:00

ChrisH

Roar Rookie


Disagree on why Hawks beat Geelong in 2008. Two reasons the Cats lost: 1) 11 rushed behinds – which led to the AFL changing the rule on rushed behinds because they did not consider it sporting/fair, and was a bad look. If just six of those rushed behinds had’ve been turned into goals, Cats would have won. If the 2008 grand final was played with the subsequent rules on rushed behinds, it’s probable the Cats would have won. 2) They became a bit cocky as Steve Johnson and others have admitted since. The Cats finished 4 games and 30% clear on top of the ladder. They were by miles the best team of the year. Following on from the previous year’s romp, that all went to their heads. I’d also argue, if they won in 2008, they would not have won in 2009. 2009 was driven by redemption – like Essendon 2000. So, their flags would have been 2007, 2008 2011. (Tho, they might have bounced back an won in 2010 instead of 2011) Not only did the Hawks cost the Cats a flag, they cost St Kilda one too. Thereafter, 2010 was their attempt at redemption, and but for a cruel bounce, they would have succeeded. An interesting footnote: After the 2008 11 rushed behinds fiasco, the Cats won their next 11 games against the Hawks… So was it the Rushed Behinds curse, not the Kennett Curse?

2018-02-25T11:40:52+00:00

Leonard

Guest


"This was a run of seven consecutive grand finals, including five premierships comprising a triple and a double. Astonishing. Thus this Norm Smith-coached Melbourne of 1954 to 1960 takes the number one position as the best era in VFL/AFL history" - sums up perfectly (in both its senses, the original and the modern) why coach Smith's eponymous medal should always go to the Best Player in the WINNING side. NOT to a 'loser'. Such a shame that a Sydney Swans player does not have the Norm for being the best player in the team which ended a 72 year premiership drought, instead of its going to an Eagles player who was about to run out on his club when the going got tough. In general terms agree with the eras. Could there be, like the appointment of two annual consuls in the Roman Republic (aka SPQR), a two-team era in the 1990s, with two legendary coaches & captains, XVIIIs and achievements?

2018-02-23T07:31:47+00:00

Aligee

Guest


Depends who you were barracking for!, Collingwood or North Melbourne which was basically everyone else from the the rest of Australia.

2018-02-22T06:25:56+00:00

republican

Guest


.........fair point. I always loved watching the SOO because it exposed this Victorian/ACT footy supporter to the WAFL & SANFL, which was a revelation at times. In fact I preferred to watch both these states to the big V, who while very effective in terms of results, were far less scintillating to watch. I appreciated the very distinctive way in which each played and this included Tassie in the early days, very much influenced by respective physical environments I suppose.........

2018-02-22T02:34:05+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Guest


I like the replay. I'm a bit biased as North won theirs, in a very entertaining 21 25 151 to 19 10 124 freewheeler in contrast to the low scoring first go. At the time I couldn't remember anyone complaining to the extent there was a movement to extra time. They only occurred 3 times at 55, 29 and 33 year intervals.

2018-02-22T02:13:11+00:00

Pope Paul VII

Guest


Sure did. You went to the draw. How awesome is that? That was an epic comeback.

2018-02-21T21:29:31+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Ok Mr butt hurt snowflake, no one is saying lets get rid of history. That is a straw man argument. No one, except you, mentioned anything about people being 'alive'. No one is talking about anything other than Aussie Rules footy so why bring things like sailing and space into it? They are straw men too. Instead of setting up more straw men, why don't you actually put forward a case why old VFL flags are relevant to today? There is quite a compelling case that clearly shows the VFL was radically different from the modern game, so much so, any comparisons are moot. The fact that 3 clubs absolutely dominated the VFL shows how unfair and imbalanced the old days were. It was no where near an equal chance for all. The only thing that mattered in the old VFL was how big your wallet was. That simply does not cut it any more. Hence why the 'Big 3' haven't much to show for themselves in the AFL years and fight tooth and nail to keep counting their dusty, moth eaten old flags.

2018-02-21T21:22:28+00:00

Rob

Guest


Cats missed finals in 2006 but they had played in a few finals series before that 1 ordinary year.

2018-02-21T21:07:25+00:00

Rob

Guest


You cant white wash history just cause you support a franchise not a football club. Guess the Americas Cup or the moon landing never happened because they were before 1990. Oh and we can scrap every flag won between 1990 and 2000 too cause theres people who wernt born then. Maybe we should only count premierships EVERYBODY was alive to see...

2018-02-21T21:03:07+00:00

Rob

Guest


By that logic the Eagles flags on 92 and 94 are redundant because it was SO LONG AGO i have mates who barrack for the eagles in their mid 20s who wernt born. Game is very different now. As it is diffrent now to the 1950s. Maybe the key is counting eras that start from the scrapping of recruiting zones - after all its stuff like that as much as anything that lead to certain clubs struggling for years.

2018-02-21T20:56:05+00:00

Rob

Guest


Im pretty sure your wrong - the current Port Adelaide is the same Port that was around in the SANFL - they had been trying to get into the VFL since the early 80s (as it was the premier competition at the time). When Port Adelaide did finally get acceptance into the AFL the SANFL then created the Port Adelaide Magpies to fill their place. Thats the way i understood it anyway...

2018-02-21T09:10:42+00:00

Aligee

Guest


North had some fantastic teams 1977 - , Blight, Cable, Rantall, Shimma, Crazy Horse Cowton, Croswell, Keith Greig, Dench , Briedas , Cassin, Baker, the scoring power to use a 70's catchphrase ---- IS UNREAL , that is one hell of a list of great players.

2018-02-21T08:50:56+00:00

Aligee

Guest


Showing my age here, but i attended the 1977 drawn GF with my father, who by chance also attended the drawn Grand final in 1948, neither of us attended the 2010 one. I wonder if anyone has attended all three, more than possible i reckon with older MCC members a shoe in i reckon.

2018-02-21T08:46:54+00:00

Cat

Roar Guru


Fair comment. Cats certainly felt like they had a point to prove and a need to atone for the disappointment of the previous year. I also wonder how 2010 may have gone if Bomber spent as much time coaching the side as he did pushing Ablett out the door.

2018-02-21T08:10:36+00:00

me too

Guest


Port Adelaide Power ARE the original club. They were forced by the afl to change their name and colours due to the clash with collingwood. No different than North becoming the kangaroos, south becoming sydney, footscray becoming western bulldogs. Except that Port didn't change cities like south - they changed competitions. The sanfl insisted that port still field a team in their comp, port originally had no intention of doing so, but eventually conceded, so created a new port magpies team. That is the history. The claim that the Magpies and Power are the same club is a recent invention by the club to unite two groups of supporters as many old timers had switched allegiance to the new sanfl club. Regardless - Port's sanfl premiership tally can't be included in any discussion of vfl/afl history, any more than geelong can try and insert their old vfl(vfa) tally - they are seperate competitions, regardless of some teams competing in one then the other.

2018-02-21T07:54:50+00:00

me too

Guest


On the geelong loss to hawthorn - if they'd won that i feel they would've likely lost to the saints in 09 - that loss spurred them against a slightly superior team that had dominated the first half and also won the third quarter as the game tightened. geelong dug as deep as they've ever done that day.

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2018-02-21T04:12:47+00:00

Paul Martin

Roar Rookie


Perhaps I should've added a note to the table that grand final replays are effectively ignored (although the points for/against stats from them are not ignored) A grand final replay could almost be viewed as extra time (a lot of it) with a very long break and the chance to replace any injured or poorly-performing players. I am personally glad they have finally been canned, I think common sense prevailed. Paul P Mark.

2018-02-21T02:06:16+00:00

mattyb

Guest


Andy,Victorian clubs needing to share the MCG is because there are to many Victorian clubs in the competition. This means it's irrelevant to clubs outside of Victoria,and an issue that needs to be sorted out inside our state.

2018-02-20T23:49:05+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


No Andy, I just can’t be bothered getting upset about the grand final starting two hours later. You misrepresent me as usual. I have no view on it beyond saying that the chicken little scaremongering arguments made by traditionalist diehards like you are a joke. You’re prepared to die in a ditch over a grand final starting at 5pm instead of 2:30pm – honestly I think you need some new interests.

2018-02-20T23:42:38+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


It's an analogy James, not a scientific formula. History is in the eye of the beholder, and I behold an irrelevant old team from 90 years ago that doesn't have any further meaning beyond the answer to a sports trivia question.

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