Purgatory looms for unrepentant Israel

By Matt Cleary / Expert

The Israel Folau thing? It would be laughable that a grown man believes his fellow human beings will be condemned to a fiery magic netherworld forever if they don’t conform to said man’s beliefs if it wasn’t actually dangerous.

Dangerous? Yes. If you’re a high profile public person – what modern-day PR types call an “Influencer” – your words matter.

Because there are hundreds, thousands, even millions of susceptible young minds who put Israel Folau on a pedestal.

And if any of those young people are battling with their sexuality, say, and perhaps live in God-fearing households, cultures, what have you, and their hero Israel says that they’re effectively evil people whom God will cast into a hot lava pit forever if they don’t repent the sin of being themselves, gay, the way God made them, presumably, then those kids will take that to heart.

And if you’re sharpening up that keyboard now and thinking of ever-creative uses of the word “snowflake”, then back up a bit. And consider: suicide is the leading cause of death for Australians aged between 15 and 44.

Men are three times more likely to kill themselves than women.

Each year over 3000 people kill themselves. It’s eight people per day.

How many because they believed their sexuality is a sin?

Look – maybe Israel’s just been… I dunno. Been a bit stupid, maybe. Maybe he doesn’t think gays are going to Hell.

Maybe he was just saying the gays are going to hell, like everyone else is going to hell because, in Israel’s mind, everyone has to repent their sins and admit them to God, who will say, as long as you really mean it, Okay, then. No worries. No Fiery Pit forever for you.

As it says in the Bible.

Young blokes are topping them themselves all over Australia, hating on themselves because they, well, you know… dig dudes.

And that’s why Israel needs to pull his big dumb head in.

Because his words are dangerous. And wrong.

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They’re as wrong as The Daily Mail – perhaps the most infantile newspaper in the world – was when it slandered Steve Smith as a “Cry Baby” for breaking down in a press conference.

It’s a sledge that says to young men that crying is weak. And so some young men will agree, and bottle things up. And then young men will self-destruct.

It happens every day. It’s a national pandemic. Suicide kills more young men than all the drugs and car accidents and cancers combined.

And if Israel Folau believes gay people will go to Hell because they’re gay people unless they admit to the God that being gay is bad, then Israel Folau is no ordinary idiot.

But the world’s full of idiots who believe all manner of malarkey. And we generally put them in a corner and do our best not to engage them, and think, well, the world needs extremist fools, too.

But Israel is an “Influencer”, a brilliant athlete and sportsman and “role model” for kids.

And that’s one reason – of many – why Israel Folau needs to be educated that even if he does actually believe gay people are going to hell for being gay people (again, the way God made them, one would assume) then he has a very real responsibility, as an admired public figure, not to actually publicly utter such rampant, homophobic nonsense lest young, impressionable minds take it on board, and hate themselves for it, and decide that Israel’s right, being gay is bad, and punishable by eternity in hell, I must end this terrible torment, because I’m a bad, even evil person, Israel Folau said so.

It’s just his opinion? It’s free speech?

Friend, bring it in tight. And hear this:

Bugger that.

There’s a limit to free speech. You can’t say a lot of things. You can’t say you admire the Nazis or hate Jews or fancy children.

You want to put pedophiles on a pedestal, allow them to promulgate their… ideas? How about Nazis? Jew-haters? Should we hear them out? In the interests of free speech?

Of course we should not. Screw those people.

There is a “line”. On one side is fair comment and critique, and opinion. On the other side is hate speech.

Our Izzy, by condemning a minority of his fellow citizens to hell for being themselves, to wit gay – which, again, is presumably how his God made them – has tipped over from fair comment into bigotry.

And it’s not right. And he needs to be called out. And he will be. And he’s going to cop it the next few days. From the media, from the community, from those corporations who put their brands on the floats that go up Oxford Street and so profit from the goodwill engendered by Mardi Gras.

Raelene Castle – who’s been on those floats – is chief executive of Rugby Australia, and will hold a particularly dim view.

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RA has promoted itself as an inclusive and fair place of work and play, and it has been.

RA has in David Pocock and others wonderful “allies” for the gays.

It’s been a highly-visible supporter of the Bingham Cup, the World Cup of Gay Rugby. Hell – Israel himself was an “ambassador” for the 2014 Bingham Cup in Sydney.

And Israel’s ‘brand’ grew because of that. And those corporations that give Israel money would have thought, “My, isn’t that Israel a nice man? Doesn’t his brand stack up well? We should attach our brand to his brand. And give him a lot of money.”

And I’ll tell you one thing for nothing: Israel likes money. And he’s very aware of the power of his brand. And he’ll have many people in his ear right this very minute – Castle very much among them – describing to Israel how he’s blighted that “brand” and other brands by writing a very silly albeit dangerous thing on Instagram.

And these figures will be into Israel, advising him quite strong upon what his “message” should be “going forward”.

And it’ll be interesting to see what Israel’s message is.

Because if Israel’s message is still that God hates gay people so badly that he’d condemn them to hell for eternity unless they repent the “sin” of being gay people, then Israel Folau can pack his bible and his boots, and take a flying nude leap at the moon.

The Crowd Says:

2018-04-09T19:59:41+00:00

Timbo (L)

Roar Guru


It is dangerous for young gay men. They are being told that they are sinners by a high profile public figure that they may idolize. This may be just enough to push these at-risk members of the population over the edge to commit suicide. Is it not our duty to call him and his church out as the intolerant bigots that they are?

2018-04-09T19:47:39+00:00

Timbo (L)

Roar Guru


The law uses wording like Incite or Advocate violence or discrimination against a group. Hell is a violent place, the Lord is an entity, gay is a minority group. This meets all the legal criteria ......if you are a christian, . If you are an Atheist, it is mindless ramblings from someone appearing to have a mental illness.

2018-04-09T06:58:01+00:00

Timbo (L)

Roar Guru


Railing against Muslims that practice the type of Islam that promotes crimes against others is not a new concept. There are not a lot of Muslims playing rugby that speak like this. In fact I felt a sense of pride when I saw the AFL advert with the Australian Muslim Girl wanting to play. Sure it might just be Gruen spin, but it is positive, inclusive messaging and good for the sort of country that we should be building. Not tearing it down with hate like Foolau is doing.

2018-04-09T06:46:37+00:00

Timbo (L)

Roar Guru


There is no freedom of Hate speech, Name and shame him for being an ignorant, intolerant bigot. Take his unchristian cult down along with him.

2018-04-09T06:31:53+00:00

stella coles

Guest


And just look at how well feed , shiny and oh so white teeth the owners of Hillsong are ! Yes OWNERS.

2018-04-09T06:25:19+00:00

SAVAGE

Guest


And this is why I've never believed nor have I ever subscribed, to sports players as role models. They're people like you and I, and have beliefs and opinions that differ from person to person, like you and I.

2018-04-09T04:16:05+00:00

JB

Roar Rookie


Best way to lose Israel Folau to League. Keep on with that political correctness. The guy is entitled to his opinions as we are in a free speech country as far as I remember (though I tend to doubt that when I see the Political Correctness Police in action). Now, who reads Israel Folau's posts on Instagram unless the medias make a big fuss about a lot of nothing? I was under the impression that Rugby Union was the least popular code in Australia with hardly any following? So what doe sit matter if one of the players posts his personal views on homosexuality? We had a postal vote on the subject with an overall majority in favour of same sex marriage and this will not change because Izzy has made a statement reiterating his religious beliefs. So stop all that non-sense unless you really want to see that young man, with religious beliefs, going back to Rugby League.

2018-04-09T04:09:52+00:00

Akari

Guest


In denial, Nobody.

2018-04-09T04:07:01+00:00

Akari

Guest


Rubbish as that only adds to just the two of you so far, terrence.

2018-04-09T04:01:38+00:00

Akari

Guest


Indeed, TWAS. The Rookie from Central West Rugby (of Country Rugby, NSW) deserves respect on this matter.

2018-04-09T03:41:37+00:00

SandBox

Roar Guru


Agree with Jacko, this article mostly ‘strawman’s’ Issie’s statement. No mention of Kwaja and the sponsors bending over to include him. Why do sponsors have more rights against certain religions than others?

2018-04-09T03:39:28+00:00

Offside

Guest


Well said Ralph.

2018-04-09T01:30:28+00:00

Fionn

Guest


'Religion cannot change to meet the social mores of each decade in every country.' What planet are you living on? Of course religion can change to meet the social mores of the time. This is what it has been doing since the time of the Enlightenment, although it has often been dragged unwillingly. It is made easier by the fact that the majority of Western countries have a broadly similar culture.

2018-04-09T01:28:14+00:00

Fionn

Guest


Bennalong, I'm willing to bet that Jeznez does criticise child marriage and female genital mutilation. That was a cheap deflection. 60% of Australians may be Christians, but more than 60% of Australians voted in favour of same sex marriage. Let's be honest here, if you are upset that people are able to criticise religions in Australia perhaps it is time to move to a less free society. I find it amazing the number of people who complain about free speech, isn't it possibly the single most important aspect of a modern secular democracy?

2018-04-09T01:08:07+00:00

jeznez

Roar Guru


Bennalong, I think child marriage and female genital mutilation are abhorrent as well. Haven't heard any high profile Aussie spouting off in support of those things so they haven't prompted the reaction that Folau's comments have. I've deliberately not criticised Christianity, not all Christians hold the beliefs that he obviously holds regarding homosexuals. I've also said nothing about silencing or punishing him - I've said I hope he gets help, can learn from the experience and becomes more accepting.

2018-04-08T21:27:22+00:00

Jigbon

Guest


So ....what do you support the spreading of ‘transparent twaddle’ and typical Christian intolerance , and hatred of anything non Christian (which is actually so unchristian). If god supposedly made everything why did he make gay people then ? Folau is out of order here.

2018-04-08T15:11:40+00:00

Thornborough

Guest


Folau has gone up in my book. Stick to your guns, don't back down or apologize for wrong-think.

2018-04-08T13:52:20+00:00

bennalong

Guest


No mate. He's not the bully . He's one man stating the belief of his religion. I bet you say zip about child marriage or female genital mutilation. But Christianity is open slather. 60 % of Australians still identify as Christians so you don't care about them. It's OK for you and all the judgmental people to pick on one quiet and respectful man. Using this forum is just like social media and its personally targeted hate that drives up suicide rates, not generalisations like Izzy's. You want him silenced. Or punished. or both, eh. That's free.

2018-04-08T11:59:42+00:00

AndyS

Guest


That's true, right enough. CommBank probably sprang to mind because I recall them openly admitting to fault. As far as I am aware that is not the case with any of the other banks, so who can say. No doubt they are all being closely looked at both internally and externally though. It has been rolling for a long time, suspect they'll still be at it for some time yet.

2018-04-08T10:50:38+00:00

Ruckin Oaf

Guest


Hey Fox When women are dying because somebodies imaginary friend gets upset by certain medical procures then that trumps hurt feelings.

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