The Wallabies team to win the decider in Sydney

By ThugbyFan / Roar Guru

Wow, what a Test match that was in Melbourne! All congratulations to Ireland for such a great game.

The Irish A side showed why they are rated the #2 side in the world, with their pack causing all sorts of strife in the lineouts and dominating the breakdowns.

First up, no excuses the better team won and proved the old adage, “forwards win matches and the backs just determine by how much”.

I said during the match blog the WB forwards were so starved of possession that they must have felt they were in Ethiopia. Let’s face it, its not like they didn’t know this was coming. The Joe Schmidt rule book is and always has been: “the other mob can’t score if you have the ball”.

This leads to pressure, territory and eventually penalties which cost points or more territory. The Ireland forwards controlled the ball (and match) magnificently and took the WB out of the match with 68 per cent possession backed up with an accurate rush defence.

After a week of planning the Irish countered and won the up-n-under kicking duels, mainly because they had the sense not to kick anywhere near Isreal Folau and were astute enough and well trained to have ‘legal blockers’ protecting their catchers. The Irish backline defended well but didn’t impress me that much in attack.

To be really honest, I thought the score flattered the Wallabies. I was astounded that Bernie Foley didn’t pick up a yellow card for a knockdown in the 70th minute. If he had been the likely score would have been 26-14 to Ireland.

So where do the Wallabies go from here? Despite Ireland’s overall superiority in the lineouts, both sides only lost one on their throw, though a lot of the Aussie wins on their throws were ‘dirty’ ball i.e.: a scramble.

The props held their own in the scrums and in fact won the only tighthead against Ireland’s feed. However the WB were outmuscled and pushed around in the breakdowns and did really well to steal as much ball as they managed. That’s where the game was won and lost.

There were some total brain explosions also, witness in the 33rd minute; Australia gets a penalty and Ireland have a forward on the yellow card chair. Well shoot me now! Bernie Foley and Michael Hooper instantly decide to run the ball.

Anyone a nanosecond of neurone impulse in the cranium would have kicked 30m downfield for the line and run a lineout and maul or set move in Ireland’s territory. They must have thought it was a great play except they ended up with egg all over the face for (a) Ireland had already run back 10m and set their defence line across the park and (b) no-one else in the WB team knew it was on.

So when Hooper gets tackled and isolated there are no WB players within cooee to contest the ruck. Result penalty against WB. That is just dumb dumb dumb rushed and playing into Ireland’s hand.

Dare I suggest the major reason for this loss is that of the three backrowers, only David Pocock was in the ruck contest? He played a great game but had little help from his backrow partners-in-crime, this comes back to the team selection and coaching. The 6-7-8 combo has to have at least one good lineout merchant and two good ruck monkeys.

David Pocock of the Wallabies

Mike Hooper is there to tackle and run the ball but doesn’t have the weight/power to contest midfield rucks. Caleb Timu tackled well, ran the ball OK but was completely MIA at rucks, I never saw him go into one breakdown.

He looked a bit of stage-fright and gave away three ridiculous penalties. So Pocock was effectively contesting on his own against three Irish ruck monkeys for a lot of the match. Add that forwards were running at Pocock to tire him and also tie him down in tackles so the next ruck or two were Pocock-free zones.

I thought the WB props and locks went ok in the rucks but the new hooker Brandon Paenga-Amosa, who carried the ball and tackled well, was a bit disappointing and often seemed last man into the ruck. Nice extra weight but usually way too late to be effective. He and Timu were hooked at half time, but the WB forwards were gassed by then.

In effect I am saying “Its the rucks, Stupid! Hold parity there and WB should win easily”. So what to do? To have any chance in the third Test the Wallabies must counter the possession at the breakdowns. Make Ireland fight for every ball, attack their rucks with power, precision and don’t depend on just one person.

Adam Coleman says he is fit to play in Sydney so the only change in the tight five that I would make is start Tolu Latu, as he is very good in rucks, and keep Paenga-Amosa as reserve. You lose weight in scrums but now have a rucking helper for Pocock. Caleb Timu has to be dropped, he is not ready for the big time yet.

I would start Lukhan Tui as blindside flanker, he is good in lineouts and a hard man in tackles and rucks. For this match, and I stress just this match, I would start Peter Samu at openside and Pocock at #8 (Samu is the faster player) and move Hooper to the bench where his speed in the last 30 minutes would play havoc.

My reasoning is Samu, Latu and Pocock attacking rucks would be a mighty weapon and Samu is far superior in the tough middle that Hooper.

This is not an anti-Hooper rant as the Hooper tackling-Pocock first man into ruck combo works well but against 3-4 ruck artisans you need to hit the Irish with the kitchen sink. Would Cheika agree to this? Methinks there is more chance of Donald Trump and Pauline Hanson dancing together at the next Climate Change Fundraiser ball.

Michael Hooper of the Wallabies (Photo by Matt Roberts/Getty Images)

I would keep the 6:2 bench as injuries/tiredness is more likely to happen there. Bring in Ned Hanigan or Matt Philip as the reserve #5-6 hybrid to replace Tui. I would not start Hanigan as he is too soft into rucks and carrying the ball plus our lineouts were not the major problem.

But give him his dues, he tackles well and has a big engine for the whole 80 minutes. You could also consider Matt Philip as he is tall, hard as nails and has experience at #6 and lock. Assuming Cheika doesn’t read The Roar and starts with Hooper then keep Peter Samu as the reserve back rower.

The only other forward change I would consider is Alan Alaalatoa replaces Tom Robertson on the bench however Robertson hasn’t done anything wrong so will likely keep his spot on the bench.

In the backs, perhaps swap Marika Koroibete with Tom Banks, speedy and a good defender against the kick-chase. Foley suggests that Nick Phipps and Joe Powell are the halfbacks for Sydney and that’s most likely the best of the rest.

I thought the Wallabies backline looked pretty solid with Reece Hodge at #12 for the last 20 odd minutes, so you might see him kept as reserve Mr Fixit for the whole backlne bar halfback. If Kurt Beale is injured and cannot start, its a bit of a disaster.

Hodge would start at inside centre and a forced smokey here to cover the #10-IC position. The only bloke with the class to cover there is Duncan Paia’aua.

So a slightly harder team, better at ruck contests and play with brain switched ON, and no stupid penalties or dumb rushed plays. Its a team game, so come on WBs, lets play as a team.

My team is
Piggies: S.Sio, T.Latu, S.Kepu, I.Rodda, A.Coleman, L.Tui, P.Samu, D.Pocock.
Handbags: N.Phipps, B.Foley, T.Banks, K.Beale, S.Kerevi, DHP, Izzy F.
Bench warmers: B.Paenga-Amosa, A.Alaalatoa, T.Tupou, R.Simmons, N.Hanigan, M.Hooper, J.Powell, R.Hodge.

Comments are welcome, all compliments accepted with beer and chocolates please, bricks and bats no thanks!

The Crowd Says:

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2018-06-21T05:38:00+00:00

ThugbyFan

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G'day Sinclair, I agree with you that starters should always be selected on the question "can that person do ALL the core roles for his position, and is he the best person there?" The Pooper is more "gee, I have two of the best players around so I must shoehorn them both into the team". But give coach Chieka credit, he did try to bring in a mean powerful #8 but unfortunately C.Timu wasn't up to the task (rumour is he is wounded with ankle problems). In a way, even putting L.Tui in at blindside is shoehorning players in as he really is a lock. Anyway, as expected they kept with the Pooper, and M.Koroibete was kept also which I think is a massive risk. I can live with these as it was a dream to think the captain would get punted to reserves. its a shame they haven't started with T.Latu as it still is the Irish take out Pocock and pretty much bang goes the competition at the rucks. And you are dead correct, the coach who is an ex-bullyboy backrower, has done bu99er all to win more ball. He expects the WB simply to up their game and win the match without the ball. As for Ned, well what can I say? Subconsciously I put his name on my list as he is almost "undroppable" in MC's eyes. I can see the Ireland pack trembling about the 60th minute, as the Fearsome Mongrel Trio of Tom Robertson, Rob Simmons and Ned Hanigan run onto the park. If you can't beat them with rugby, then kill them with laughter. :)

2018-06-20T02:43:48+00:00

Sinclair

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Thanks for the article - I feel a bit less lonely in my concerns about the backrow. Although the game has evolved a lot since I started watching in late 1980's the fundamentals remain surprisingly intact. You need at least solid set-piece, You need to be able to compete hard on the ground. Mark Ella's book 'Running Rugby' published in early 1990's is surprisingly fresh in terms of description of what core roles of each position are. You need players who can, at least, carry out the core duties competently. Everything else is a build on. You want extras but you need the fundamentals first. I find it weird that we have a backrower as a coach who seems to be happy to have a 7 who plays like a hybrid-back and a backrow that is so fundamentally incapable of doing the role of the backrow. I think there are a lot of pretty handy players available but I find it disturbing that their flaws are not being fixed/reduced and the coach seems to be repeating the same mistakes (i.e. Pooper - shown up by AB's in 2015 RWC). Jake White where are you?

2018-06-19T23:56:26+00:00

One Way Street

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Until Foley is left out of the 23 and Hooper is shunted to jersey 22, the Wallabies will not win against the good teams.

2018-06-19T23:52:22+00:00

One Way Street

Guest


^ Yes those 3 are the common denominator in a " Losing team" " Losing culture " etc etc

2018-06-19T20:04:38+00:00

riddler

Roar Rookie


they are losers??.. let's see your pool room to ol!

2018-06-19T20:03:44+00:00

riddler

Roar Rookie


not true.. tuttle is not a better goal kicker than foley.. if so, why was lance kicking when he is about 75% kicker.. foley is 85% or higher this year for tahs and wallabies.. opinions are free .. facts are not..

2018-06-19T18:52:30+00:00

30mm tags

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Powell must fix the fumbles at the scrum base first. Otherwise he is 50 :50 within Jake Gordon. However James Tuttle is not even in the squad. A great pass, equal to the others, excellent defence, loves a dart from the scrum base and kicks goals far more consistently than Foley.

2018-06-19T18:47:34+00:00

Riddler

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Like the team thugby.. Forwards like u say.. really really wanted timu to make it.. but maybe I was wrong.. Kerevi out of 23 for tk or rona.. Mario gone for banks.. And the big one..Moses for Phipps.. Huge call.. but let's get him in there.. I really wanted Gordon to step up.. but his last start for the tahs was just cringeworthy after getting worse and worse game by game while the tahs got better.. Powell ain't international standard.. ruru haven't seen..but people on here like fionn have wraps on him, so must have something.. Also wouldn't mind a bench spot for asy.. he is a baby.. but I think he will be better than his old man..

2018-06-19T16:14:36+00:00

Joe Blow

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I absolutely agree on Kerevi. Twice in the first half he threw speculators off the ground and put us under even more pressure in our 22. We do not need a backline full of game breakers. There must be room there for a solid ball runner who defends well. Kerevis running has been sadly missing against top notch defence and his first instinct is to run sideways or back when faced with it. He is a flat track bully. I would put TK or Hodge at 13. Both know which way to take the ball and are defensively sound. Foley and Beale need someone besides Folau to put into holes. Koro is a good one. Bad mistake on the weekend but he puts the irish under a lot of pressure. The other forward I would consider is Arnold. He's a monster built on running and aggressive tackling. Rodda was good on the weekend but Arnold can be better. Agree on Timu but would have him on the bench in place of Samu. We do not need a third short backorder in the 22.

2018-06-19T13:26:05+00:00

Wilbur Starn

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What about Hodge replacing Marik. How handy would a bloke be if he punts it 50 m.

2018-06-19T11:19:25+00:00

Rolando

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Need Simmons for his line out skills, ability to cover 4 and 6. Arnold and Kerevi are not international standard. They’ve had their chances. They both excel at Super level but not beyond. Matt Philip and Rona are better. Koriibete is talented and green but has great attitude. If he can be coached into playing smarter I’d stick with him. Reece Hodge is more of an AAC utility player who we need off the bench till it becomes clear that he can own one particular position. Can’t not start without Hooper unless a new captain is chosen. Pockock missed the gun, Genia is too narcky. Coleman I would prefer. Forget Hiiginbotham. He, like Fardy, can undermine a teams momentum with dumb penalties and yellow cards. Neither are big team players.

2018-06-19T07:24:18+00:00

Timbo (L)

Roar Guru


Any Cleanouts? Any ruck defenses where he prevented a counter ruck? Something he does very well is to "Form a Ruck" - First on the Scene, the opposition lose the right to pilfer and need to counter ruck to get a turnover. He offers a token resistance but it is enough to slow the game long enough for the enforcers to get there and seal it off. It is still work done by a modern 12.

2018-06-19T05:48:08+00:00

Machooka

Roar Guru


Thugby, I totally agree with your last para eh Stupid! :) No, in all seriousness, it was the 'WB should win easily' thingy that I was actually referring to. The battle at the breakdown/ rucks are the keys to success or failure without a doubt. I even put it out there, prior to the tour starting, that there could be the chance that both sides would possibly neuter each other in this key area, but it didn't happened. No, da Wallaby bested in the 1st Test, while the Irish owned us in the second Test. Had my theory (for want of description) worked, I then felt da Wallaby would have the edge with their back play, living off the scraps of possession. I'm really hoping the 3rd Test is going to be a cracker... but I do have real doubts da Wallaby is up it, especially for what's coming from the Irish. Sadly.

2018-06-19T05:43:37+00:00

Dwards

Roar Rookie


Was he not clearing on orders though? He's a young new guy - less likely to adapt under pressure.

2018-06-19T05:33:15+00:00

One Way Street

Guest


Hooper 22 tackles? but nothing else. 20 of those tackles were on backs BTW.

2018-06-19T05:29:20+00:00

George

Guest


Hooper should be first picked, pocock second, they do so much more than any other player, for me Hooper was motm with his 22 tackles, pocock 15

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2018-06-19T04:24:22+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


G'day CP, see my above answer for Kerevi vs Rona. I quite like Curtis Rona on attack, much better at setting up his supports but he does misread in defence. I made a horrible error in my article, As I was typing R.Simmons and N.Hanigan it struck me that they were both too soft in trucking the ball up and in rucks, so I added in Matt Philip as a potential reserve. After dinner, I finished the typing and accidentally put in Hanigan. Lock and backrow reserves should be R.Simmons, M.Philip and M.Hooper. My bad, I should be sacked as a selector. :( I see on the ARU website that Jake Gordon has been called into the squad. Am not sure how to read the tea leaves as Bernie Foley basically said on Monday that its a lay-down misère for Joe Powell as reserve ½back.

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2018-06-19T04:11:56+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


G'day Chookman, wow not even an egg or two? :( Sadly C.Timu just didn't cut the mustard. Like you I was mega pleased that he got the nod, but he has failed to deliver over 2 games in the rucks. He wasn't even cleaning out players, just stood there in the line waiting for the next Irish ball carrier to come near him. A good #8 has to to attack rucks, if he can't win the ball then he has to hurt people when cleaning out. He didn't do that so bye bye. I know its a big call dropping Hooper but the main idea is so the Irish forwards cannot just aim at taking out one player all the time. Get 3 fetchers attacking their (and our) rucks and its a contest for every ruck. To be sure Ireland will lose some and give penalties away trying to protect their rucks, especially if the referee is asked prematch to watch their flops over the ball. If the WB can win 10% more ball (conversely Ireland has 10% less) then the WB attack will tear them to shreds. It's why I said "Its the rucks, Stupid". You cannot go into a match and let the opponents steamroll your breakdowns and hope to win on 30% of the ball and bu99er all territory. Do that and you will be lucky to win 1 in 10 matches. Take that advantage off them and we are in with a good show. :)

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2018-06-19T03:58:00+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


JP, are you some Irish spy or sycophant? I read a Ireland 44 WB 6 scoreline in that team.

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2018-06-19T03:49:36+00:00

ThugbyFan

Roar Guru


Hi PK, not a bad team and our starters almost agree. I can wear Uncle S.Kepu swapping with T.Tupou and I suspect it will happen permanently soon. In Tahs matches this year, Kepu has been blowing hard by the 25th minute but with multiple medics, he generally lasts till about the 50th minute. I dropped C.Timu because he has been totally ineffective in clearing rucks, on Saturday I did not see his baldy head once in a breakdown. Yes his big body is good for runs but I want 2-3 people who can attack rucks effectively, not all at the one time but basically every ruck a WB player has hands on the ball and is contesting. it also means the Irish cannot just aim at one player (D.Pocock) and wipe our counter-rucking off the table, which is what happened in Melbourne and how the AB/SA counter the danger of Pocock. Its why I put P.Samu as starter, but kept Michael Hooper as reserve. Hooper has the speed to get to rucks 1st but can be shifted by cleanout, and even he cannot do that for the whole 80 minutes. P.Samu is much harder to move, so he starts. But imagine, Pocock or Samu goes flat out for 55-60 minutes then you bring on a fresh M.Hooper. Peter Samu got 20 minutes on Saturday, so I am simply swapping the better ruck monkey for the speed merchant Hooper. Despite his size Rory Arnold is not that good at lineouts whereas Rob Simmons is great. Arnold also is a bit of a sloth around the field. Simmons is soft in contact but very good in defence, he rarely misses. I guess Ned Hanigan is now a Simmons-Lite which is why I suggested Matt Philip. I only just realised I made an error in my article as I put Hanigan in the reserves, I meant M.Philip as he is mean and goes hard in defence and rucks. So Simmons and Philip as reserve 4-5-6 which covers lineout also. I kept R.Hodge as reserve to cover the whole backline bar ½back. So Tom Banks, who can fill the wing/fb quite nicely and has good speed starts. I am just hoping that Kurtly Beale is fit to start, he looked pretty ginger when they pulled his off the field on Saturday.

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