Collingwood Magpies vs Carlton Blues: AFL live scores, blog, highlights

I guess you'd be feeling ashamed of that comment now Truetiger after it appears Treloar had one hammy off the bone and the other hanging on by a thread. Entitled to be in pain I'd say.

Fair enough response Liam.

Truly liam the true height of arrogance is to cast that aspersion on another. It usually is inherent in the most narcissistic amongst us ;) That said I'm great so its all good.

... all of which is your prerogative to think, Peter, because you support the team that landed on the good side of the 'what if' game. Put very simply, on the day the injuries reducing our rotations and allowing Grundy to serve against VFL quality rucks for the rest of the game - ensuring your midfield first choice at the ball - coupled with the amount of support you got from the men in yellow for the majority of the day were the difference. I'm not arguing with you surrounding gameplay; we're defensive. So were the Swans in 2012. What I'm arguing with you is that, if you want to play 'what if' Collingwood kicked straight, I get to use a few what ifs of my own; ie, that it's a stupid game to play. We can both 'what if' till the cows come home, doesn't impact the result none at all.

Calling yourself great does not equal greatness, it's the height of arrogance, Mattican. I admit to my schadenfreude, because right now that's where we're at. As for calling this an honourable loss, Pete, there's a vast gaping difference between me pointing to the result as such and the club doing it, something that for whatever reason fans of sport seem to conflate whenever it serves their purposes to do so. My comment has vastly more to do with calling out a vulture when I see it, rather than labelling losses acceptable.

Hard to go against WCE Liam. They, along with Geelong, Hawthorn and the Swans have given their fans the most chance for success in the AFL era. You however, are starting toi represent what is not a good trait and that is, to be up and about with what you call an "honourable loss". This acceptance of a 20 point loss as a win is not healthy for fans or clubs.

I guess we have different metrics of what equates a good game for our club liam(winning vs losing) and what we aim for (finals v draft picks) Its OK if you get enjoyment if wce fail in finals because you'll be able to use a wooden spoon for sugar to make the bitter pill of continual failure easier to swallow. Greatness isn't arrogance BTW its the by product of success.

I was, theres this handy thing you can take to the footy , fits in your pocket even, called a mobile phone, you might want to try one truetiger.

Liam, more the point is you having a crack at AD for a prediction. The Pies have our own injury count. Your point "the difference between the sides on the day was the injuries to players during the match – and before it, when Casboult injured his finger in the warm-up – and the free kick count." is wrong IMO. The difference is that the Pies are a a better side. Bolton went into damage control to stop the media focus on the Blues after the dismal Freo game and stacked the Pies forward line with 17 blokes. Fact is, you were unlikely to ever win a game with a focus like that. he tried to do what Geelong did to us but Carlton aren't a Geelong.

Yeah, Adam carried on like a stuck pig didn't he? Should be playing soccer!

Ah, the 'what if' game... If I wanted to play as well, I could argue that what if you lost Linden Dunn and Brody Grundy early, meaning you had to jerry-rig your backline and your ruck setup from the players left. If I wanted to play, I could say that it isn't as though the Blues didn't miss shots they should've kicked, and if I truly wanted to play, I could say that there were a number of missed frees to Curnow within range of goal that went unpaid, where you had the rub of the green all day. No point debating what didn't happen, Peter. You won, and that's an irreconcilable fact, but the difference between the sides on the day was the injuries to players during the match - and before it, when Casboult injured his finger in the warm-up - and the free kick count.

I enjoy our little conversations, Mattican, if only because it reminds me of your arrogance and your dismissal of others. It'll make September thoroughly more enjoyable when, to no-one's surprise, you flop in a heap again the second your side leaves Perth.

Carlton are on track for the spoon, collingwood for top 6. I'd say 56pts was a fair good representation of what all would've thought the outcome would be. Either way getting snarky over a margin predicted when outcome was a loss still is weird- if Carlton won then fine but having a go because Carlton were less cr#p today is well I have to think its just your so conditioned to losing that a closer loss is a victory of sorts in your mind.

To be fair Liam if we kicked straight it would’ve been at least 40. Shocking game and Carlton played a 17 man defence, Boston in damage control. Still , as AD said we got the win and that’s about all to gain from this rubbish match of clog footy.

Please. You've been plenty sarcastic, snide, and otherwise concerning Carlton over the course of this season. You've had plenty to say, and you haven't held back when it's been your turn to heap further dirt. No harsher than you've been.

Mate , Blues were lucky pies missed a lot but hey thats life. I must Cheer one another blues team tonight even though There from another code, doh !!!

The Pies could well be second or third after next week!

Cool. Doesn't make you any less superior, mate.