Why the premiership quarter could be Richmond's Achilles heel

By Peter the Scribe / Roar Guru

We’ve all heard the third quarter in a grand final defined as the ‘premiership quarter’, and we don’t need to go back far to find a significant one.

The Tigers led the Crows by just nine points at half-time in the 2017 grand final before blasting the Crows with a five-goals-to-one third-quarter burst to all but seal their first flag in 37 years.

Any hopes of an unlikely West Coast Eagles comeback were quickly extinguished in the 2015 grand final by a Hawks five-goal-to-two third quarter, and the Hawks produced a similar third quarter to end Sydney’s chances in 2014.

The Saints three goals and three behinds to the Pies’ five behinds in the first 2010 grand final set up the epic draw, but perhaps the most famous of recent premiership quarters was in the 2008 grand final, when most say the game was decided in the last five minutes of the third quarter.

Hawthorn were just five points ahead of the Cats with five minutes to go in the third, but enter Stuart Dew, who scored two goals and was instrumental in setting up another two.

The game broke open as the Hawks scored four and the Cats just two in a barrage of six goals in the final five minutes of the quarter. It set up a massive upset, with the Hawks defeating the short-priced Cats.

The Crows came from behind in their 1997 and 1998 grand final wins with a six-goal-to-two third quarter in 1997 and a five-goal-to-two third quarter in 1998.

Port Adelaide’s six-goal-to-three third quarter in 2004 set up their flag, and who can forget the Brisbane Lions’ third quarter in the 2001 grand final? Trailing by 14 points at half-time and with most pundits expecting the Bombers to surge away, the Lions broke the grand final open with a six-goal-to-one third quarter before marching to the flag.

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Having mounted a case for the merits of the premiership quarter, let’s take a look at the Tigers’ strange anomaly with their third quarters in 2018 and contrast it with their blistering final quarters.

Firstly, some numbers to illustrate the anomaly.

Points for Points against Percentage Differential
Q1 450 301 149.50 149
Q2 425 315 134.92 110
Q3 362 380 95.26 -18
Q4 517 277 186.64 240
Total 1754 1273 137.78 481

The Tigers have won 13 out of 18 first quarters to be equal top for first quarters, 13 out of 18 second quarters to outright lead second quarters, six out of 18 third quarters to sit 15th in third quarters and 14 out of 18 final quarters to outright lead final quarters. They are down with the Saints and Suns for third-quarter performances, below Carlton and Fremantle.

Of course winning or losing a quarter can be the difference of a couple of points, but what is going on with Richmond in the third, particularly when you look at points for and against this year?

Why has Richmond been outscored in third quarters with a percentage of 95.2 and yet dominate last quarters with a ridiculous percentage of 186.64?

Percentage is a fair indicator after 18 rounds and the Tigers third-quarter performances are the equivalent of, say, the Adelaide Crows, who sit 12th on the AFL ladder with a percentage of 98.3. How can this be?

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Why is it the Tigers are superhuman in final quarters and pedestrian in third quarters? What is the correlation? Does one feed the other? Do the Tigers tread water in third quarters, chip the ball around more, keep possession and make the opposition chase and wear themselves out? Do they extend interchange rest periods for key players? Does Dusty take himself forward more?

They are certainly heavily reliant on Toby Nankervis, and Brodie Grundy ragdolled Shaun Grigg while Nankervis took spells against the Pies. Nathan Buckley and Damien Hardwick eventually called Grundy the best player on the ground.

Do they give extra break times for Nankervis in the third and try to break even knowing they will have the legs to run over anyone on the last? If so, can their reliance on rest breaks for Nankervis be further exploited?

Since the Tigers first played the Pies in Round 6 they have won two of their next 12 third quarters. That is worth repeating: the side most believe already have one hand on the cup have won two of their last 12 third quarters this season. It seems the Tigers are either going to sleep at half-time or are using third quarters as a feeding strategy to fuel their blistering final quarters.

Richmond didn’t show this anomaly in 2017, so the question becomes: will the Tigers’ sleepy third quarter lulls or resting strategies be exploited by a side when it matters most in the premiership quarter of a grand final?

Is this Richmond’s premiership Achilles heel?

The Crowd Says:

2018-08-05T02:20:58+00:00

Truth

Guest


Does it really matter though?? When you’re winning the other 3 quarters anyway, do you expect them to win every quarter on average?? They’ve won more quarters overall than anyone else...They’re not perfect and they’re only down 1 point differential per game in that quarter. Richmond haven’t played well the last 2 games....but that’s the difference between them and everyone else...they still find a way to win.

AUTHOR

2018-08-04T05:34:24+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


It's still just three third quarters you have won in 13 games, more worrying for you is your mids thrashed two weeks in a row and the brave Cats unraveled your last quarter dominance.

2018-08-03T22:59:10+00:00

Mat

Guest


How did they go in the 3rd quarter last night? Yeah keep on hating people as Richmind continue to bank the 4 points.

2018-08-03T20:22:17+00:00

Chris

Guest


I am sticking to my guns. They are playing finals a month and a half too early. If Collingwood don't get them, Melbourne will. Either one of these legends of AFL/VFL will get them on Qualifying Final day. If they fail, then GWS on Preliminary Final or Grand Final day. I suspect they won't make the Grand Final. Foreman got thumped by Ali and he was the shortest priced favourite in many a year. Sport is littered with examples like this. So, let's sit back and enjoy the arrogant football Titanic of Punt Road!

AUTHOR

2018-08-03T05:22:13+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


There's a lot of new names to The Roar appeared in this thread. If one was suspicious, one might think it's the same person.

2018-08-03T03:05:17+00:00

Don't Argue

Guest


"Tigers are either going to sleep at half-time or are using third quarters as a feeding strategy to fuel their blistering final quarters". It's neither actually. Laughable to think a professional team is in cruise control in a 3rd quarter conserving energy for the 4th lol. Or being that arrogant. Like most commentators and former players have said this since last year..Gary Lyon, Judd and Dermie have said this. Richmond just break teams. They can't go with them for the full game, nothing more nothing less.

2018-08-03T02:55:04+00:00

amateur hour

Guest


It's true, I remember reading it oh maybe 6-7 weeks ago. Good effort though.

AUTHOR

2018-08-03T01:02:56+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Wobbly, ever heard the saying "straw that broke the camels back?"

AUTHOR

2018-08-03T01:01:12+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Please provide the link to it Murphy as it doesn't index in Google so seems a Murphy Furphy.

2018-08-02T14:28:21+00:00

Murphy

Guest


There was an article on afl.com not longer ago which broke down each teams qtr by qtr performance and noted that Richmond were down in third quarters.

2018-08-02T11:27:36+00:00

wobbly

Guest


Talk about clutching at straws.

2018-08-02T09:09:40+00:00

dave

Guest


Really like this article and discussion. I wish there was more talk like this. There is a lot going on in a game of football that the fantasy points don't show. As a Freo supporter I reckon teams know that Fyfe is always going to try break the tackle.so the tackler can commit fully without having to worry about Fyfe dishing off.

2018-08-02T08:33:18+00:00

PeteB

Guest


Keep dreaming..the fact that the Tigers steamroll the opposition in the last quarter makes it all irrelevant. Teams will need to be at least 4 goals in front of the Tigers at 3/4 time at the G to be any chance.

2018-08-02T08:12:32+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


Peter TS I think TTF has a pretty good point. But the important thing about the other Peter's comment is that on GF day 2017 things panned out differently to H&A. Likewise come finals this year Richmond will go hard in 3rd quarters to bury the opposition, if they can. Finals are a whole new ball game.

2018-08-02T08:10:15+00:00

The Brazilian

Roar Rookie


Ground breaking journalism, Peter. Damn you! Now all opposition coaches know about our Achilles Heel! We're really done for now.

2018-08-02T08:07:23+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


But Peter that includes games they lost. If you look at games they won they were up by an average of 21 at half time. So for those games they were typically in a pretty commanding position.

2018-08-02T07:56:01+00:00

RT

Roar Rookie


Yep Collingwood. 2 perhaps in nearly 60 years.

AUTHOR

2018-08-02T07:49:43+00:00

Peter the Scribe

Roar Guru


Haven't heard it addressed anywhere yet Murphy but hoping that now changes. Once again, it's not that you're getting smashed in third quarters, it's more the direct contrast to the other three and possible correlation with the Tigers ridiculously good last quarters.

2018-08-02T07:37:59+00:00

Paul D

Roar Guru


I only saw their game against us this year really - was 56-4 at half time, I figured they'd all been like that I assume they've led at every break for most of those games too - 2 goals up with a quarter to go is heaps, particularly if they've got plenty of petrol in the tank, and more than their opponent does too. Honestly this article reminds me of that comment in the Warwick Todd diaries about Tendulkar's weakness - "loses concentration when approaching 200"

2018-08-02T07:23:00+00:00

Slane

Guest


He's acting like every Richmond supporter went out and got a Yellow & Black: Back to Back tattoo at quarter time of last years Grand Final. I haven't even been willing to admit we are a lock for the top 8 until last week. My hands start shaking before every game. Surely Tiger supporters have been conditioned to expect failure more than any others.

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