Like many people on this website, I was eagerly awaiting the day expansion was confirmed, however I was controversially campaigning for a third Melbourne side.
Don’t get me wrong, I would have loved to see Canberra or Wollongong join the league, but as someone who is living in Melbourne, who has a strong dislike for Melbourne Victory (due to my Adelaide roots) and for Melbourne City (due to my support of Manchester United) I wanted another club to connect to.
While only time will tell if I buy a membership for the Western Melbourne Group’s new franchise, I am pessimistic about their long-term success. Why? It is because they are a third franchise in an already saturated area.
The solution to this problem I hope is clear for the board at West Melbourne, that is to establish an identity that is different from Melbourne Victory and City. The question that should be raised instead is how does one establish an identity within a franchise to make themselves known as a club?
I used to think that establishing an identity was as simple as establishing a clear geographical divide between existing franchises. While a geographical divide is crucial to a club’s identity, I now believe that simply doing this is far too simplistic and not enough.
When comparing City and Victory, you would say that City do not have an identity. They hardly have a fan base, there are no clear principles that are dictating their philosophy as a club only offering vague statements like “a broad based community team, celebrating cultural diversity” and there is no geographical divide.
You don’t know what Melbourne City are supposed to be. If they are a community club, then why the takeover and re-brand from Heart when it was the community that decided on these colours and names?
Are they the A-League’s Manchester City, playing attacking football? You certainly would not know it from the way Warren Joyce is managing them. Are they for the purists trying to convert ‘Eurosnobs’ to the A-League? There are no notable successful international marquees that have played there. Or are they just the anti-Victory?
This brings us to the problem with West Melbourne. If this franchise is going to become a club, then from day one there must be a stronger community influence then that what City has become. So what does this look like?
Firstly, there must be a geographical divide. I will give partial credit for this franchise at this stage. The efforts to build a private stadium in the Wyndham City Council clearly establish the territory. As per reports this is at least 30 mins away from Victory and City heartland in the CBD, but they have shot themselves in the foot by choosing to start their existence at Kardina Park in Geelong.
This causes a confusion about the franchise’s geography. Are they a Geelong franchise or a Western Melbourne franchise? While this is an issue, it is better than the alternative of playing at AAMI Park whilst the stadium is built. It can be expected that initially the franchise will struggle on this part, so it must look to develop other parts of their identity while this is in the works.
Let’s look at colours and names. No matter what the colours and names are and no matter what the product is, this must be chosen by locals within the Western Melbourne (and possibly Geelong) areas.
Comparing the processes between the naming of North Queensland Fury and Western Sydney Wanderers for instance, many of the fans behind the latter where relieved that their name was chosen by themselves, rather than a focus group.
By doing this, this will give the supporters a real sense of ownership surrounding their club, not like City or Fury where a corporate overload will make the decision for them. On ownership, these supporters should also come up with philosophies that West Melbourne should abide towards.
When I mention these philosophies, I do not mean coming up with vague principles like “win every game” or “score x number of goals every game”, such approaches would be impractical and unrealistic.
What I am referring to is how would the supporters of these teams like their team to play. Borussia Dortmund under Jurgen Klopp for instance desired every game to play a particular ‘gegenpressing’ style of high intensity, Pep Guardiola’s Barcelona also adopted this attempt to form an identity through his possession tactics.
This is what Ange Postecolgou was trying to implement with the Socceroos, always playing an aggressive ‘Australian’ style of football. This may not have always gathered the desired outcomes, but the commitment to realise an identity was always present.
Some may say that results will always outweigh style and identity everyday of the week. To counter this, I would like to divert to Jose Mourinho’s second spell as Chelsea manager.
Results where there when they won the league title, but the chants of “boring, boring Chelsea” remained.
Further, if results are the exclusive focus on West Melbourne, then what difference is there between them and Victory or City? All franchises are about results, but not all franchises have a focus on identity and style.
We are trying to create a point of difference between West Melbourne and Victory and City and this is but one avenue to do so.
Another avenue is in terms of players and staff. Already Macarthur South West Sydney (MSWS) are seizing on this opportunity, demonstrating a commitment to prioritising locals and NPL players from that region.
This is how one develops their identity. MSWS are making it their philosophy to use promote locals and youth players, differing themselves from Sydney FC’s ‘Bling FC’ mantra however whilst also using geographical location to differ from the Western Sydney Wanderers.
Per reports, West Melbourne are looking at getting Celtic captain Scott Brown as their inaugural marquee, but is this what the fans want? Do they want the club to be aggressively campaigning for marquee players, or would they rather a local focus?
These are the questions that the board of Western Melbourne must be asking their fans at the earliest possibility.
For West Melbourne to be successful, they must prioritise establishing an identity that differentiates themselves from both Victory and City.
City have failed to do in their existence and are facing the blunt of those consequences today. They have been given an opportunity that more than ten other bidders desperately wanted because they have managed to convince the FFA board that they have potential.
We can only hope that they seize upon this opportunity in 2019-20 and don’t pull a Melbourne City in creating a confused franchise, with no clear vision.
Joe
Guest
Identity is very difficult to establish in a franchise. These are not clubs that were born of a local community, doing the hard yards in lesser leagues for many years and slowly building as they rise to the highest level. No, these are clubs where a select group puts together a business case and hands over cash to purchase a licence - hardly the stuff that'll inspire poetry. The problem arises during the difficult years when results are not coming. All clubs experience this from time to time but franchises have little foundation to fall back on. In my view, the A-League needs to take a backward step and stop trying to compete with the AFL and NRL - aiming for big lifeless crowds and watered-down identities. I would love to see a league confident enough to open itself up to true promotion relegation and embrace small suburban stadiums. Tribal rivalry drives football leagues all over the world and it should here too.
Jonah Ley
Roar Rookie
The pros of WMG are obviously owning their own stadium, their billionaire backers and having player agent Lou Sticca on their books (responsible for Del Piero and a number of other marquee names). They have a geographical divide, yes - 'everything west of the West Gate bridge' - but they've also got a very saturated market, so hopefully Sticca & co. realise they've got to actually sell their club to people to have any chance; not just hope being their itself will attract fans (e.g. Melbourne City). In doing so, I believe they'll become a big-spending, international marquee club. For them it'll be sink or swim, & that's their selling point. They'll learn from the Heart/City problem (of simply existing and hoping for the best). They won't be like Wanderers, MSWS or what Team 11 would've been in community-oriented. After a decade of bringing these new fans attracted to the $$, then they'll have to move heaven and earth maintaining and consolidating them, hopefully the West Melbourne region is big enough then.
Regi
Roar Rookie
some excellent points Fadida. Fluidity and time taken for an identity to evolve is missed by so many of us when trying to argue a point or put forward an opinion.
Mister Football
Roar Guru
So you are agreeing that there is an issue with SMH originally being a Greek club?
Ex Lion Tamer
Guest
Although it has little relevance now, Dundee's second team came about because of religion.
Fadida
Roar Rookie
I think "identity" is more complex than is assumed. For a start it isn't an immediate "thing". Happy to be corrected, but if we look at Britain we have 3 sets of clubs within a Matt Simon elbows radius,ie a few hundred metres, of each other, the only differentiating factor being "they aren't the other". Liverpool/Everton, Dundee/Dundee Utd, Forest/County. IIRC the Merseyside teams came from a disagreement within Everton (?). These are teams with no geographical differences, no religious differences(?), no cultural differences. These rivalries and "identities" took years to emerge. I'd argue that the styles of play that the author credits the namechecked teams with are also fluid, not fixed. Barca haven't always played Tika Taka, BD haven't always gegenpressed. Our NT have already changed identity under GA. Man U were famous when I was a kid for wingers and wing play (now it's for boredom). In short, sometimes "not being" the other team is an identity. Only in the modern world do we expect instant results though; instant indentity, instant following, instant success. Who's to say Melbourne City won't change coaches and suddenly become the great attackers of the league, showcasing and developing the country's young talent, while Victory look to recruit established players from other clubs and import readymade players. I know who I'd follow in that situation
Harry
Guest
You fundamentally misunderstand the problem with South. It isn't who it was created by, since Roar were created by immigrants too. The difference is Roar did not continue maintaining an ethnic identity that put off anyone who wasn't from that ethnic group. Roar fans didn't keep chanting nationalistic slogans of a foreign country. Roar fans didn't get into nationalist fights with supporters of other clubs founded by immigrants. Basically, Roar were not respo nsible for the image of football in this country being foreign, scary and shunted out of the mainstream. That is why Roar are in the league and South are not.
Mister Football
Roar Guru
I don't think anyone should be expecting that any other part of Melbourne will feel an overwhelming rivalry with Tarneit. To be honest, everyone East of Kingsville would barely know there is such a thing as Tarneit.
Jordan Klingsporn
Roar Guru
Red and White could work. Because they will play in the sheep paddock, i was thinking the Tarneit Rams and they would wear gold and white hoops with blue shorts.
Nick Symonds
Guest
Would it help if South East Melbourne were added for an East side - West side rivalry? That's what the NBL plan to do.
Brian
Guest
How about Red and White for the colours. Maybe a Knight for the logo. Ned Zelic to coach.
Kangas
Roar Rookie
They should play at the western oval in Footscray
Lionheart
Roar Rookie
but we don't know that's the new board's thinking. Obviously the SWMG got up because it will be the only club in the league that owns a stadium. Listening to their comments, it was wow, we will own a stadium.
Lionheart
Roar Rookie
good points Luke, thanks
Mister Football
Roar Guru
Luke As child of European migrants, who followed the old NSL (and the VSL before the NSL), it upsets me that a great club like South Melbourne, with its history and supporter base, can be excluded because it was created by Greek migrants. It's wrong on so many levels, and it's damning on the new board that they can persist with this type of thinking.
Luke Karapetsas
Roar Pro
Which is why it is critical that WMG seek to form their own identity, I’m pessimistic about the success because it’s difficult on a geographical perspective. Like you Mister Football, I would have preferred to see South in because they have a clear identity, but challenges would still have existed, no matter what they do there is always the stigma that they are a Greek club, I’m sure they would have changed this, but how would you propose they go about it? And if so, do you think there’s similar challenges for WMG and how could they be overcome?
Mister Football
Roar Guru
Don't pull a Melbourne City? If WMG get anywhere near City's pitiful attendance figures, I would be flabbergasted. This is a team that will not carry the Geelong name, playing out of Kardinia Park for three seasons, some 50 minutes away from where they will eventually move. Expect to see a very empty Kardinia Park most weekends. Are people aware of the population within 50 minutes drive of Lakeside stadium?
Luke Karapetsas
Roar Pro
Hi Lionheart Thanks for reading, I don’t think marquees aren’t important, I just don’t see them as a long term solution. You mention I’m not entirely sure what background exists in west melbourne, but I’d caution against signing a player because they are of a certain nationality. We do this, and we basically turn back into the NSL and as we have seen through Souths continued rejection, that isn’t successful
Lionheart
Roar Rookie
I'd agree Luke, identity is fundamental. Maybe a marquee presence is more critical than you think, because of the large number of immigrants in Melbourne's developing SW suburbs. Are they largely Asian? If so, a few Asian players would be an attractive option wouldn't it? And a community rep on the board, or at least with a connection to the board must be critical too.